# "Cops" show comes to Omaha; 1 dead

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 27, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680 "2014-08-27T20:05:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/41 "2014-08-27T21:31:53Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> I’m at the library 'cause my laptop if broke.

While you’re there, consider reading a book. You use about a novel’s worth of commas in every other post.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/42 "2014-08-27T21:35:57Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Perhaps some of the 30 responding officers . . .

Do not accept statements by the OP without corroboration. There were not 30 responding officers, unless perhaps well after the shooting was over. According to all published accounts of the incident there were three officers at the restaurant at the time of the shooting. The police have not yet disclosed how many rounds were fired by the three officers.

The victim as noted was an audio technician. He was behind the officers when they entered, but the suspect fled toward the door so the technician was in the line of fire.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/43 "2014-08-27T21:36:09Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> Sad, just sad. My “hostility” ? I guess some must be of the opinion that police brutality and racial inequities are trivial matters. They are not. Put this thread wherever it comforts you. Yea, there too.

Yes, your hostility.

You opened the thread with no specific position on the incident beyond a general condemnation of police behavior, then ended with a taunt or a dare for others to tell you how off-base you are.  
When you were asked for an actual thesis to discuss, you dismissed it with a snide remark that the incident was on the news and a snide question as to whether the thread should be in the comics.  
That demonstrates both hostility and a lack of desire to debate in good faith.

Actually, had you posted combined information from posts #1 and #25 as the OP, it would probably still be in Great Debates, but since you think that snide remarks make better discussion points, the thread was moved to The BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/44 "2014-08-27T21:54:47Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> Sad, just sad. My “hostility” ? I guess some must be of the opinion that police brutality and racial inequities are trivial matters. They are not. Put this thread wherever it comforts you. Yea, there too.

Personally I’m in favor of both police brutality and racial inequities. How else can I, as a white male 35-55, tell I’m winning?

As an aside, while I’m in favor of the above, I’m firmly opposed to recreational outrage, especially ignorant, jargon-y recreational outrage.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/45 "2014-08-27T21:56:17Z")

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It was self defense; they thought he was trying to steal their souls.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/46 "2014-08-27T21:56:59Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Personally I’m in favor of both police brutality and racial inequities. How else can I, as a white male 35-55, tell I’m winning?

Take lessons from Charlie Sheen. 😃

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/47 "2014-08-27T22:01:41Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Yes, your hostility.
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> You opened the thread with no specific position on the incident beyond a general condemnation of police behavior, then ended with a taunt or a dare for others to tell you how off-base you are.  
> When you were asked for an actual thesis to discuss, you dismissed it with a snide remark that the incident was on the news and a snide question as to whether the thread should be in the comics.  
> That demonstrates both hostility and a lack of desire to debate in good faith.
> 
> Actually, had you posted combined information from posts #1 and #25 as the OP, it would probably still be in Great Debates, but since you think that snide remarks make better discussion points, the thread was moved to The BBQ Pit.

Please take the discussion of moderator actions to ATMB, as directed by **Marley23** in post #20. (I’m assuming of course, that since there is no indication that you are posting as a moderator that you are posting as a poster.)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/48 "2014-08-27T22:16:24Z")

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I am not sure if **tomndebb** meant that to be a mod-hat post or not, **Frank** , but don’t junior mod.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/49 "2014-08-27T22:21:20Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I am not sure if **tomndebb** meant that to be a mod-hat post or not, **Frank** , but don’t junior mod.

I was not aware you are a Pit mod now. Did Miller, or that other Pit mod I can’t think of, quit or go on vacation or something?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/50 "2014-08-27T22:22:43Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I was not aware you are a Pit mod now.

Ahem:

> [@Marley23](#):
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> If you want to complain about how this thread was moderated or the board in general, go to ATMB. It doesn’t belong here.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/51 "2014-08-27T22:27:39Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I am not sure if **tomndebb** meant that to be a mod-hat post or not, **Frank** , but don’t junior mod.

OK, I’ve reported the post.

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**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/52 "2014-08-27T22:38:19Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> A couple of things to note:
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> 1. Airsoft guns don’t sound like a pistol in any way, nor do they recoil.

Just wanted to add some information.

Airsport guns are powered three ways:  
Spring powered  
Electric powered  
Gas powered

The gas powered guns generally do recoil and make noise. Not as much noise as a 9mm pistol of course, but noise just the same. Electric powered guns also make a “clacking” noise and may or may not recoil depending on design.

When I say recoil I’m using that word to mean that the slide on a model looking like an auto loading pistol moves back and forth just like on a real firearm.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/53 "2014-08-27T22:39:42Z")

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Well, this thread has cetainly gotten off to a fabulous start.

**Common Good** : Cops - goons or monsters?

**Smapti** : Cops - saints or heroes?

You guys were clearly made for each other. Enjoy.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/54 "2014-08-27T22:55:26Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> I have, sir. This: Cops and the powers of the police are run-amuck in the land free and the brave. I don’t know how to be more succinct. Perhaps the problem is on your end.

So in this case it couldn’t possibly be that reality shows have gotten more and more dangerous (by design) for those involved with them, and that this was inevitable? Get a better angle, be more aggressive while you’re riding, hey you’ve got a vest on, right? It’s about ratings and I’m sure the producers can’t wait for the next numbers to come out.

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**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/55 "2014-08-27T23:24:12Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> While you’re there, consider reading a book. You use about a novel’s worth of commas in every other post.

I’ve probably read more of them than you. Punctuation ? That’s your criticism ?  
Maybe you should try visiting the library, youngster. Now, ban me for sassing back.  
Show your true mettle. I don’t like authority. More of you smart guys should if your gonna’ call yourself smart. It’s those who resist tyranny who make the world better. And we always have critics.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/56 "2014-08-27T23:29:58Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> I don’t like authority. More of you smart guys should if your gonna’ call yourself smart. It’s those who resist tyranny who make the world better. And we always have critics.

I resist your conformist tyranny. Power to the people!

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**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/57 "2014-08-27T23:37:48Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Personally I’m in favor of both police brutality and racial inequities. How else can I, as a white male 35-55, tell I’m winning?
> 
> As an aside, while I’m in favor of the above, I’m firmly opposed to recreational outrage, especially ignorant, jargon-y recreational outrage.

Jargon-y ? Ok, fine; then you’re just another arrogant white jerk. You must be proud. Seriously, you must. You’re “winning” ? Sure. Keep telling yourself that. Like the actor from “Two and a half men”, Charlie Sheen. His dad is great. Not so, about the son.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/58 "2014-08-27T23:42:46Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> It’s those who resist tyranny who make the world better. And we always have critics.

Yes, if only we all had the stones to post pompous, cranky civics lectures for the benefit of a bunch of anonymous mooks on an Internet message board. Oh, well, I can only strive to do better.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/59 "2014-08-27T23:45:31Z")

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Have my “objections” (of trying to get you to explain what the fuck you think actually happened) been destroyed yet?

In other questions, how is the library doing? Still brushing your teeth in the water fountain?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/60 "2014-08-27T23:48:11Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> I don’t like authority. More of you smart guys should if your gonna’ call yourself smart. It’s those who resist tyranny who make the world better. And we always have critics.

You make the world a better place because you give us something to laugh at.

Tell us about the time you truly defied tyranny.

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