# Cops Taze Then Shoot Dog to Death

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 28, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385 "2012-11-28T17:01:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/21 "2012-11-29T00:42:39Z")

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This is one of the things I love about this place. You take something horrible, but know how to make it funny, without belittling the subject. I went from sad to laughing, while still recognizing how horrible it was.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/22 "2012-11-29T02:21:38Z")

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I blame the owners.

Who the hell just leaves their dog in the yard while they are out of town.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/23 "2012-11-29T04:58:48Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> It wouldn’t make sense to do it any other way. What would be the point of shooting it to death and THEN tasing it?

Re-enact one of the [first big steps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani) of modern biology (or, as it was called back then, natural philosophy) ?

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**Author:** ![panaccione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@panaccione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panaccione)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/24 "2012-11-29T05:58:53Z")

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Fuck the police!

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/25 "2012-11-29T06:25:44Z")

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Wait a moment…

You mean they shot Marmaduke?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/26 "2012-11-29T16:20:09Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> And this, well, maybe it’s a bit of a stretch to kill a dog sitting peacefully in his owner’s yard…

Nitpick: the dog wasn’t sitting peacefully in its owners’ yard by the time they killed it (because they had tazed it).

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/27 "2012-11-29T17:16:03Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Nitpick: the dog wasn’t sitting peacefully in its owners’ yard by the time they killed it (because they had tazed it).

I reckon the dog’s lawyers can claim entrapment, then.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/28 "2012-11-29T18:07:54Z")

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I haven’t watched the video yet, because I’ve been busy not watching videos of dogs being tased and then shot. So what was the original game plan, to cuff the dog after tasing it?

Nevermind, see now that there isn’t a video.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/29 "2012-11-29T18:12:47Z")

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Throw a stick into the back seat of a squad car, maybe.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/30 "2012-11-29T21:17:13Z")

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Question: are dogs somehow unaffected by tazers? How could it run away twice after being tazed?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/31 "2012-11-29T21:35:32Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> Wait a moment…
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> You mean they shot Marmaduke?

Apparently. I haven’t meet many Marmaduke type dogs but I must say I’ve never meet one that was anything other than a giant slobbering love bunny.

Was this dog actually an apparent menace or was their thought process just "giant dog! Danger Will Robinson Danger! "?

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**Author:** ![FlyByNight512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/82dd89/32.png) [@FlyByNight512](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyByNight512)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/32 "2012-11-29T21:41:53Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Question: are dogs somehow unaffected by tazers? How could it run away twice after being tazed?

Electrocution does a great job of knocking people (and dogs) down, but once the current stops, the pain stops. Humans usually decide to surrender at that point, or are so surprised that they don’t put up much of a fight for the next few seconds. Dogs have a much more powerful fight or flight instinct, so it doesn’t surprise me that their reaction is to GTF out of Dodge.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/33 "2012-11-29T22:31:41Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Try tazing one a couple of times and chasing him around the neighborhood! **Now** you’ve got a proper crazed dog that needs some shootin’!! It takes a bit of work, but you can get there.

This is _exactly_ the argument I made in the other (Colorado pit bull shooting) thread, where the dog had been described (by the person who first called animal control) as non-threatening, but was tased twice and eventually shot _while in a catchpole_.

Someone in that thread argued that pit bulls can be “trained to endure taser attack.” I wonder if he will argue here that a Newfoundland can be so trained.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/34 "2012-11-29T22:35:22Z")

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> [@FlyByNight512](#):
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> Electrocution does a great job of knocking people (and dogs) down, but once the current stops, the pain stops. Humans usually decide to surrender at that point, or are so surprised that they don’t put up much of a fight for the next few seconds. Dogs have a much more powerful fight or flight instinct, so it doesn’t surprise me that their reaction is to GTF out of Dodge.

It’s worth noting that, in nature, a predator hardly ever accepts your surrender and then takes you to a cozy shelter to be adopted out. So, when a dog is under intense pressure, “surrendering” is not an instinct – running away is.

A dog _will_ surrender to a pack leader sending the right signals. But that’s not what we had here…hint: tasering is not a typical form of dog communication.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/35 "2012-11-29T22:35:47Z")

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> [@FlyByNight512](#):
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> Electrocution does a great job of knocking people (and dogs) down, but once the current stops, the pain stops. Humans usually decide to surrender at that point, or are so surprised that they don’t put up much of a fight for the next few seconds. Dogs have a much more powerful fight or flight instinct, so it doesn’t surprise me that their reaction is to GTF out of Dodge.

Or they simply don’t realize that surrender is an option. They are animals, not people; they have no way of knowing what their attackers want them to do.

EDIT: More or less as **Sailboat** said.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/36 "2012-11-29T23:00:04Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> This is _exactly_ the argument I made in the other (Colorado pit bull shooting) thread, where the dog had been described (by the person who first called animal control) as non-threatening, but was tased twice and eventually shot _while in a catchpole_.
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> Someone in that thread argued that pit bulls can be “trained to endure taser attack.” I wonder if he will argue here that a Newfoundland can be so trained.

Who says this dogs was a Newfie? It’s got tased and survived, proving it is a pit bull. All dogs that frighten people are pit bulls. That’s how you classify them. Duh.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/37 "2012-11-30T00:30:44Z")

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I thought they were called “assault canines” because of their scary-looking features.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/38 "2012-11-30T02:41:33Z")

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> [@FlyByNight512](#):
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> Electrocution does a great job of knocking people (and dogs) down, but once the current stops, the pain stops.

Shocked, not electrocuted. If you are electrocuted, you don’t get back up. Electrocution is death resulting from electric shock.

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**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/39 "2012-11-30T14:02:21Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Question: are dogs somehow unaffected by tazers? How could it run away twice after being tazed?

I also wonder, given Newfies’ general furriness, if the tasers made good enough contact for the appropriate current to be applied.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-taze-then-shoot-dog-to-death/642385/40 "2012-11-30T14:48:57Z")

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Most of you probably don’t realize you are mix and matching info from two different stories. The one in the OP happened two years ago. The video which is linked in the IMHO thread is the recent incident. It was a Pitbull not a Newfoundland.

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