# Copy and save for 3 years.... \[predictions on an Obama presidency\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 6, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027 "2008-06-06T16:04:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/1 "2008-06-06T16:04:54Z")
Posted with no comments from me. I’ll just bring it back up in a while when the songs change… > [@](#): > > From: Gerald and Patricia Molen Date: 6/5/2008 11:33:21 AM Subject: “Election woes defined by prose…” > > We just experienced an overhyped, positively outrageous primary election season that has left me cold and wondering where the heads of our citizens are hiding out. Must be someplace where the sun doesn’t get to very often. > > At one time in my life I was a determined, dedicated and ever loyal registered Democrat. Then something happened (Lyndon Baines Johnson) that turned my life around and gave me much pause as to the veracity of a party that dwelt on and fed off of the most unfortunate among us. Some of those unfortunates were in their positions in life by way of their own choosing and others were there by circumstance. But always, always with a door open to them to reach for new heights, achieve new goals, change their lives for the better. And also, always ever present were the bottom feeders doing everything they could to take advantage of those who had not or have not seen the light of better days and times nor realizing they were in fact the masters of their own destiny. They had come to believe that they were dependent on those in power in Washington and that they would look out for them and take care of their every need. They are still waiting and expecting al those promised freebies. > > Most people aren’t even aware that the Democrats ruled Washington for over 40 years. It wasn’t until 1994 when the so called Gingrich Revolution changed that for a short period of time. Nor do people realize that it was the Dem’s that created the failed policies of the many entitlement programs that are falling apart right before our eyes. Please do not think I find the Republicans blameless in all this. They too, suffer from ego inflation and greed motivators built into the system. It’s just that the past few months I’ve listened to the rantings and railings of the left in America calling for more giveaways and better ways to obtain the proverbial ‘free lunch’. > > I think that to sum up my feelings and why I am so set apart from those within the circles of political power and influence can be illustrated best by a quote by noted basketball legend and talk show co-host Charles Barkley: > > “Poor people have been voting for Democrats for the last fifty years…and they are still poor”. > > And now with the election results comes the promises of “change”. “Change we can believe in.” “Change for the future”. When in fact if you really, I mean REALLY listen to what the new messiah is asking for is not ‘change of policy’ or ‘change for the better’. He is warning all of us that he wants our change all right, ‘loose change’, pocket change’, social change and political change…So people wake up. For if you don’t the change you get may not be the change you were expecting or the change you wanted. > > To close my screed, I want to leave you with some JM predictions in the event the junior Senator from Illinois becomes President and especially if the House and Senate are veto proof. > > 1). Strict new gun laws will be enacted even though he promised he would not. > 2). The phrase “In God We Trust” will be removed from all currency. > 3). He will back away from his pledge to Israel and leave them to the wolves of Islam. > 4). Hillary Clinton will be named to the Supreme Court. > 5). Tax rates will return to their highest levels in 30 years. > 6). The capital gains tax will be at least double current levels. > 7). Retired Army General Wesley Clark will be named Secretary of Defense. > 8). The borders will be ‘basically open’ to all comers. Especially those from the Middle East and South America. > 9). Amnesty will be granted to all illegals now in the U.S regardless of status or even gang members (MS-13). and > 10). The war in Iraq will be brought to an abrupt end and the results will be tragic and the consequences to our military will be devastating. > > I realize that my predictions may not sit too well with some people and the best we could all hope for is that I am totally wrong. Any bets? > > Jerry Molen 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/2 "2008-06-06T16:34:16Z")
I’ll take $100 of that action. 1). Strict new gun laws will be enacted even though he promised he would not. \*\*Fat chance. The Supremes have yet to weigh in with their decision, and the Dems have figured out that gun control is a loser issue, no matter what power they have in Congress. \*\* 2). The phrase “In God We Trust” will be removed from all currency. \*\*Why does this bug the bejebus out of conservatives? I’d be more concerned about the dollar being worth less than Kleenex than I would be about what’s printed on it. \*\* 3). He will back away from his pledge to Israel and leave them to the wolves of Islam. **And the Israelis will nuke their attackers. No huhu.** 4). Hillary Clinton will be named to the Supreme Court. \*\*Proof that neocons smoke dope. \*\* 5). Tax rates will return to their highest levels in 30 years. **Somebody has to pay for Bush’s war.** 6). The capital gains tax will be at least double current levels. **This is a problem why?** 7). Retired Army General Wesley Clark will be named Secretary of Defense. **He’s more qualified than anybody the Pubs have put up lately.** 8). The borders will be ‘basically open’ to all comers. Especially those from the Middle East and South America. **See #4.** **Xenophobia defines the Right.** 9). Amnesty will be granted to all illegals now in the U.S regardless of status or even gang members (MS-13). **See above.** and 10). The war in Iraq will be brought to an abrupt end and the results will be tragic and the consequences to our military will be devastating. **Actually, the devestating consequences are a result of being in Iraq, not of leaving it.** ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/3 "2008-06-06T16:43:02Z")
Moved to Great Debates due to the content. For the record, though, I think reposting a long chunk of text - from an email, Web site, newspaper, whatever - and not commenting on it is poor form in any forum. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/4 "2008-06-06T16:50:46Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] For the record, though, I think reposting a long chunk of text - from an email, Web site, newspaper, whatever - and not commenting on it is poor form in any forum. [/QUOTE] Yeah. There is so much trash like that floating around on the internet that you could fill every forum with nothing but junk e-mails from wingnuts. The only point I can see for posting it is to give us here a sense of superiority. I don’t think we need it. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/5 "2008-06-06T16:52:15Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] There is so much trash like that floating around on the internet that you could fill every forum with nothing but junk e-mails from wingnuts. [/QUOTE] Please refrain from giving wingnuts any ideas. Thanks. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/6 "2008-06-06T16:52:53Z")
Heck, yeah. In fact, I’ll take $100 on each prediction, as long as we can do them as a set, and evaluate them on June 5, 2011. You up for it, **Gus**? If so, of course, we’ll need to define our terms more accurately in many cases. But I’ll always take some easy money. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/7 "2008-06-06T17:12:01Z")
Did I read it too fast, or did this current list of paranoid right-wing horror-fantasies actually miss the one about Obama being a secret Muslim that will outlaw Christianity and force Sharia law upon the land? Seems kinda incomplete without that one. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/8 "2008-06-06T17:14:38Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] Did I read it too fast, or did this current list of paranoid right-wing horror-fantasies actually miss the one about Obama being a secret Muslim that will outlaw Christianity and force Sharia law upon the land? Seems kinda incomplete without that one. [/QUOTE] Well, he’s gotta save something for the second term. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/9 "2008-06-06T17:17:43Z")
This reminds me of a similar list someone sent me before GW Bush became president. My guess is this will be no more accurate than that one was (the Bush one talked about how he’d outlaw abortion, mandatory prayer in schools, etc…and totally missed invading other countries and all that). This list is definitely wacked…pretty funny what people worry about though. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/10 "2008-06-06T17:18:02Z")
I always get my political information from a [Movie Producer](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0596520/). Changed link from one that had his address and phone number. His wife was mentioned in that one. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/11 "2008-06-06T17:57:34Z")
What part of posted without comment is hard to understand? Where did I offer to make any bets? Reading comprehension 101 ??? I was not trying to start a debate. I was placing this online here so that if I wanted to bring it up in the future, it would be here with the some established proof that is was not produced after the fact. No where have I said I believe or disbelieve any of it. But I must say it is providing an interesting list of members who’s comments and beliefs are being espoused … We do this pick apart on those that are running, why not on ourselves? So you said it or did it 2-10 years ago. Be fun to bring it up again in a snarky way if is happens to work out against your beliefs of today. Turn about is fair play… right? 😉 _Off to find a good one about the other guy…_ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/12 "2008-06-06T18:00:40Z")
[QUOTE=GusNSpot] I’ll just bring it back up in a while when the songs change… [/QUOTE] 😕 “Songs change”? [QUOTE=GusNSpot] I was not trying to start a debate. [/QUOTE] Then you should have posted it in MPSIMS, or maybe IMHO, or perhaps the Pit would be more fitting. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/13 "2008-06-06T18:02:52Z")
[QUOTE=GusNSpot] What part of posted without comment is hard to understand? [/quote] The ‘why I did it’ part. > [@](#): > > I was not trying to start a debate. > > I was placing this online here so that if I wanted to bring it up in the future, it would be here with the some established proof that is was not produced after the fact. Seriously? You should have just copied it into a Word file and hit ‘save,’ then. If you placed it here, though - if you place any list of anything here - you should expect an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/14 "2008-06-06T18:05:51Z")
[QUOTE=GusNSpot] What part of posted without comment is hard to understand? [/quote] The part about why you’d do it. > [@](#): > > Where did I offer to make any bets? The thing you posted without comment ends with an offer to take bets. I offered to let you be the proxy for the person you were quoting, since you were already posting by proxy. > [@](#): > > Reading comprehension 101 ??? At some point you gotta take a course on basic writing 101, instead of blaming the readers. > [@](#): > > I was not trying to start a debate. We get back to “why?” > [@](#): > > I was placing this online here so that if I wanted to bring it up in the future, it would be here with the some established proof that is was not produced after the fact. So what? Why do you think you’d want to bring it up in the future? If you’re unwilling to take responsibility for the predictions now, you won’t be able to say “I told you so” if (snort) Obama removes “In God We Trust” from currency. If you’re willing to take responsibility for the contents of the post, why not for the offer for a bet as well? I don’t see why you think you’d want to refer to it in the future with some sort of “established proof that is [sic] was not produced after the fact,” unless you’re looking for smugness privileges, and your refusal to support the post now pretty much removes any future right to smugness you might otherwise have. Please describe a hypothetical scenario–any one will do–in which you might want to bring it up in the future. > [@](#): > > No where have I said I believe or disbelieve any of it. Along the same lines, [allow me to post without comment](http://www.timecube.com/) > [@TimeCube](#): > > EARTH HAS 4 CORNER > SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY > TIME CUBE > IN ONLY 1 EARTH ROTATION. > 4 Corner Times CUBES EARTH. > If a God existed, he would be EVIL > to DENY 4 Opposite Corner Days > Simultaneously within a 4 Quadrant > Earth Rotation. It’s Simple Math, > IF NOT FOR Academic Lobotomy. Posted without comment 😉 > [@Gusnspot](#): > > But I must say it is providing an interesting list of members who’s comments and beliefs are being espoused … > > We do this pick apart on those that are running, why not on ourselves? So you said it or did it 2-10 years ago. Be fun to bring it up again in a snarky way if is happens to work out against your beliefs of today. > > Turn about is fair play… right? 😉 > > _Off to find a good one about the other guy…_ What the hell does any of this mean? At best, this comes across as a pathetic attempt to emulate Joe McCarthy. At worst, it’s utterly incomprehensible, perhaps a ritual chant of devotion to the mad god Yog Sothoth. Please, please consider taking a course in expository writing 101. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/15 "2008-06-06T18:07:31Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Then you should have posted it in MPSIMS, or maybe IMHO, or perhaps the Pit would be more fitting. [/QUOTE] He did post it in MPSIMS. I moved it because, even if **GusNSpot** says he didn’t want an argument, I knew he was going to get one. There’s really no such thing as “posted without comment” on the Internet, **GusNSpot**. If you post something like that and say nothing, people are going to assume you agree with it unless they know from your other posts that you don’t. That’s why people are offering you bets. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/16 "2008-06-06T18:07:38Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Then you should have posted it in MPSIMS, or maybe IMHO, or perhaps the Pit would be more fitting. [/QUOTE] He probably did post it to one of those forums, note that a mod moved it to GD. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/17 "2008-06-06T18:13:36Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] He did post it in MPSIMS. I moved it because, even if **GusNSpot** says he didn’t want an argument, I knew he was going to get one. There’s really no such thing as “posted without comment” on the Internet, **GusNSpot**. If you post something like that and say nothing, people are going to assume you agree with it unless they know from your other posts that you don’t. That’s why people are offering you bets. [/QUOTE] A question remains, does he want to have just one argument, or was he thinking of taking a course? 🙂 [http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/argument.htm](http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/argument.htm) ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/18 "2008-06-06T21:23:03Z")
Your list is unworthy of discussion. Really, it is pretty much “Obama is a secret Muslim!” warmed over. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/19 "2008-06-06T21:35:25Z")
As long as we are pulling predictions completely out of thin air here are mine: 1. He will solve world hunger with his grandmas delicious old timey potato salad recipe. 2. He will win the nobel prize in the humongous wang category, also probably physics. 3. He will cure cancer using nothing but the power of his brain. 4. Cecil will be named Secretary of fighting ignorance, his first act will be to make Texas illegal. 5. He will end the war on Iraq, the war on drugs, and the war on terrorism and instead declare war on email spammers. 6. He will force NASA to abandon work on the space program and start working on a time travel program just so he can go back in time and fight Hitler. When NASA tells him this is not possible he will beat them up with his whooping stick. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027/20 "2008-06-06T22:38:45Z")
Here are my predictions for an Obama presidency: 1. He will rape your wives and daughters with his big black dick. 2. Sharia law will be imposed. When they’re not being raped by Obama’s big black dick, your wives and daughters will wear burkas. 3. Your guns will be confiscated and turned into crack pipes. 4. Osama Bin Laden will be appointed to the Supreme Court. 5. Kim Jong Il will be appointed Secretary of State. 6. The income tax will be raised to 110%. 7. Welfare cheats will ride around in limosines. 8. Heterosexual marriage will be outlawed. Butt sex will be mandatory. 9. The stars on the American flag will be replaced with a hammer and sickle. 10. Universal health care will be instituted for all Americans. Posted without comment. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copy-and-save-for-3-years-predictions-on-an-obama-presidency/452027.md?page=2)