# Corey Lewandowski **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 30, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650 "2016-03-30T16:52:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/121 "2016-04-06T23:50:17Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Who sez Breitbart (the company) tried to stifle their staff? The people who quit? > > How, specifically, did Breitbart try to stifle their staff? Are you actually following the details of this story, or are you just knee-jerk responding to this thread? Breitbart senior editor-at-large Joel Pollak [ordered his staff](http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/breitbart-editor-ordered-staffers-to-stop-defending-michelle#.yaKBAlLB94) to stop tweeting about the story, stop speculating about the story. Also, [Pollak posted an article](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified/) where he asserted that Fields and Terris had to be mistaken in their identification of Lewandowski, and must have confused him with the SS agent in the pictures because he also was tall in a dark suit with close cut hair. That was his idea of supporting his employee. > [@drad\_dog](#): > > I find it really incredible that anyone could profess not to mind at all if those bruises didn’t come from that event, when she used them as evidence and put it out in the news cycle. > > If she made that up it demonstrates consciousness that it wasn’t a big deal and that she needed to exaggerate and lie about it. There are two possible interpretations. One is that Fields lied about getting the bruises from Lewandowski, she faked them or had them already and falsely attributed them to this incident. If that can be established, that would greatly affect her credibility as a witness. However, the video showing the incident still remains, and there is still the eye witness of Ben Terris. She could also be subject to charges of perjury or impeding an investigation or some such. The second possible interpretation is that she did get the bruises from the incident, but the jury does not feel there is sufficient evidence to prove that the bruises came from the incident. That is a case of lack of sufficient evidence versus a case of falsifying testimony. In that case, the lack of evidence that the bruises came from the incident does not have any relation to whether the incident occurred or was battery. The jury could still find Lewandowski guilty. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/122 "2016-04-07T08:54:07Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Who is this “we” you keep referring to? Just to clarify, who do you represent other than yourself? > > You may notice highly partisan persons desperately trying to convince others that a heinous crime has been committed by someone else and, in this case, it must always be Trump’s fault. :rolleyes: The “we” are the people posting in this thread. I did not say anything to the effect I “represent” those people. I just made a simple statement of fact about what had not been said or implied by anyone in this thread. Just as no one has said that a “heinous” crime has been committed, and no one has said that it “must be Trump’s fault”. Why is it that you have to keep making shit up? You don’t have to answer that question of course, but do you have sufficient capacity for self reflection to ponder that question? Maybe you should do so. I would suggest to you that, if you think about it, it’s pretty damning that you have to keep making stuff up in order to be able to have something you are able to rebut. > [@doorhinge](#): > > Hello. I mean more evidence than simply touching her arm. You realise there’s a video of him doing more than touching her arm? Just exactly how determined are you to bury your head in your ass? There’s no need to answer that. > [@doorhinge](#): > > Are you saying the bruise is not an element of what he is charged with? Oh fer cryin’ out loud. Yes, that’s what he’s saying. That’s what lots of people are saying. That’s what any first year law student could tell you. Are you actually paying any attention _at all?_ ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/123 "2016-04-07T10:24:48Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Why is it that you have to keep making shit up?. . . I would suggest to you that, if you think about it, it’s pretty damning that you have to keep making stuff up in order to be able to have something you are able to rebut. > . . . > Just exactly how determined are you to bury your head in your ass? Back off. You are pushing both the rule against accusations of lying and the rule against personal insults. Stop it. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/124 "2016-04-07T11:30:19Z")
Damn straight, Tomndebb. I shouldn’t have said what I said. Sorry. **Doorhinge** , could you pop [over here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19240945#post19240945)a moment? Ta. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/125 "2016-04-07T19:46:08Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Don’t get me wrong, if it turns out that she faked the bruises or something, that would make a huge difference in my opinion of her and the case. **Frank’s** point is just that the bruises aren’t relevant to meeting the charge of simple battery. She doesn’t need bruises to win this case, but now that she has them, they could help or hurt, depending on how they match up with the rest of the evidence. > > Also, I was accusing **doorhinge** of moving the goalposts, not you. Which goalposts are you referring to? Lewandowski is entitled to a defense and all that a proper defense entails. What’s-her-name the reporter is going to have to convince the jury/judge that her bruises came from the encounter with Lewandowski. The defense is allowed to introduce reasonable doubt. When all is said and done, there’s a chance that a jury will wonder why this case ever went to court. _It’s bad enough that I had to take a day off work (some jurors may have lost a days pay) for the $14 (?) the State gives us to cover travel time and expenses but then I have to listen to this whiny horseshit. Give me a break!!!_ This is obviously a landmark case as far as the Democrat collective is concerned. They get another chance to blame Trump for something he didn’t do. p.s. Thanks for spelling my nom de plume correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/126 "2016-04-07T19:52:29Z")
The Democrat collective??!! The reporter works for BREITBART. Have they all the sudden gained a liberal soul? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/127 "2016-04-07T19:59:43Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > The Democrat collective??!! The reporter works for BREITBART. Have they all the sudden gained a liberal soul? Breitbart isn’t pushing this issue. I was under the impression that the reporter had quit Breitbart. The Democrat collective has really gotten their Underoos in a bunch over this national safety, health, and security issue. It would be hysterical if it wasn’t so serious. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/128 "2016-04-07T20:04:58Z")
She was working for Breitbart when the incident occurred. Are you under the impression that the Republican Party wouldn’t love to see Trump crash and burn over this at least as much as the Democrats? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/129 "2016-04-07T20:10:22Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Do you not understand the difference between the reporter and the prosecutor? Convincing the jury a crime was committed is not the reporter’s job, The reporter will have to confirm, under oath, that the photo(s) of her alleged bruise are actually photo(s) of a bruise caused by the actions of Lewandowski. The prosecutor won’t be able to simple say to the jury, “Trust me, I’m a prosecutor”. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/130 "2016-04-07T20:12:43Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > She was working for Breitbart when the incident occurred. > > Are you under the impression that the Republican Party wouldn’t love to see Trump crash and burn over this at least as much as the Democrats? Breitbart isn’t pushing this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/131 "2016-04-07T20:30:04Z")
You are descending into Rubio-Speak now. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/132 "2016-04-07T20:38:19Z")
My three-year-old sometimes fixates on something totally irrelevant. “Katie, I need you to go upstairs.” “But I didn’t get cake yet!” “What? Nobody’s having cake. It’s time to go upstairs to brush teeth.” “BUT I DIDN’T GET CAKE!!!” “Katie, c’mon, it’s time to go.” “DADDY! I!DID!NOT!GET!CAKE!” In these circumstances, I’ve found one thing that works: “You did NOT get CAKE! And that makes you MAD! You’re FRUSTRATED!” “YES!” “I get that. But we still have to go upstairs now.” After some sniffling, if I acknowledge the completely irrelevant thing she’s obsessing over, she’ll generally come with me. > [@doorhinge](#): > > Breitbart isn’t pushing this issue. Breitbart isn’t PUSHING this ISSUE! Breitbart does not CARE about this ISSUE! And that’s IMPORTANT to you! But the reporter is still a Republican who at the time was working for a Republican news outlet, and there’s no sign that the grab turned her into a Democrat. **Doorhinge** , honey, I know that matters to you, but it’s still time to move on. This story is one that’s of interest to pretty much everyone who dislikes Trump’s heavyhanded (literally in this case) approach to politics, and that doesn’t just mean Breitbart. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/133 "2016-04-07T20:43:00Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > You are descending into Rubio-Speak now. Is it possible for you to rephrase your post? I have no idea what you intended or meant to say. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/134 "2016-04-07T20:55:06Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > My three-year-old sometimes fixates on something totally irrelevant. > > “Katie, I need you to go upstairs.” > “But I didn’t get cake yet!” > “What? Nobody’s having cake. It’s time to go upstairs to brush teeth.” > “BUT I DIDN’T GET CAKE!!!” > “Katie, c’mon, it’s time to go.” > “DADDY! I!DID!NOT!GET!CAKE!” > > In these circumstances, I’ve found one thing that works: > > “You did NOT get CAKE! And that makes you MAD! You’re FRUSTRATED!” > “YES!” > “I get that. But we still have to go upstairs now.” > > After some sniffling, if I acknowledge the completely irrelevant thing she’s obsessing over, she’ll generally come with me. (post shortened) That’s a very heartwarming story. I prefer the dialogue from The Ringer. It’s shorter. \*David: “Relax, honey. I just took 'em out to the mall to hang out.” Lynn Sheridan: “The mall closes at 9:00. It’s 12:00.” David: “We stopped off for ice cream.” Winston: “When the fuck did we get ice cream?”\* [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y484uR9xXUA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHOBYAC4AOKAgwIABABGFUgWyhlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLDczZTf3VHnMlDbvChRVQ4-NijAPw "Johnny Knoxville The Ringer When The Fuck Did We Get Ice Cream?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y484uR9xXUA) ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/135 "2016-04-07T21:06:32Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > … **Doorhinge** , honey, I know that matters to you, but it’s still time to move on. (post shortened, underline added) Did I miss a memo? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/136 "2016-04-07T21:29:01Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Did I miss a memo? Almost certainly so. In any case, thanks for quoting me twice! ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/137 "2016-04-14T01:41:51Z")
Sources are saying Lewandowski will not be prosecuted. > **[Trump campaign manager will not be prosecuted, sources say](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trump-campaign-manager-lewandowski-221921)** > > A defamation case is still possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/138 "2016-04-14T15:26:02Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Sources are saying Lewandowski will not be prosecuted. > > [http://politi.co/1YunLg5](http://politi.co/1YunLg5) > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Who are these alleged “sources”? Are their names being withheld for national security purposes. 😉 The official announcement, assuming there will be one, is supposed to be made Thursday (today) afternoon. I can wait for the official announcement. I wonder if this is a legitimate news story, or is someone scamming the news media and internet in order to renew interest in this tempest-in-a-teapot-let’s-blame-Trump-for-something-anything-everything movement (hehehe, I said “movement”)? Time will tell. \*A Florida prosecutor has decided not to prosecute Donald Trump’s campaign manager for battery after a March run-in with former Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields, sources with knowledge of the situation told POLITICO. The decision not to press charges against Corey Lewandowski is scheduled to be announced on Thursday afternoon by Palm Beach County State Attorney David Aronberg. Fields may still pursue a defamation case against Lewandowski, a source said.\* Read more: [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trump-campaign-manager-lewandowski-221921#ixzz45oWTDAzI](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trump-campaign-manager-lewandowski-221921#ixzz45oWTDAzI) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/139 "2016-04-14T15:44:11Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Who are these alleged “sources”? Are their names being withheld for national security purposes. 😉 The official announcement, assuming there will be one, is supposed to be made Thursday (today) afternoon. I can wait for the official announcement. I wonder if this is a legitimate news story, or is someone scamming the news media and internet in order to renew interest in this tempest-in-a-teapot] Why do you make such silly wonderings? As you said, they are going to announce today which will “renew interest” all on it’s own without any need for a scam. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650/140 "2016-04-14T16:34:31Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Why do you make such silly wonderings? As you said, they are going to announce today which will “renew interest” all on it’s own without any need for a scam. As I said? Do you mean as an un-named source said? At least according to the Politico reporter’s story. I’ve noticed in the past that many “news” stories have been poorly vetted, if they were vetted at all. I don’t mind questioning the stories or the “source”. You may feel differently. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corey-lewandowski/750650.md?page=8)