# Cornbread - the perfect food that goes with almost everything.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 20, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352 "2013-09-20T23:51:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scribble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scribble/32/3317_2.png) [@Scribble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribble)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/41 "2013-09-22T17:43:24Z")

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And, for those of you who object to sweet cornbread - what do you think of things like corn muffins, or blueberry cornbread, or cobblers made with cornbread crusts?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/42 "2013-09-22T17:47:45Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I guess the people who don’t like sweet cornbread also don’t want syrup on their polenta\*.
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> - fried cornmeal mush

That would be correct. Do people put syrup on polenta? ( And polenta need not be fried, either.)

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/43 "2013-09-22T17:47:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> And it exists to put butter on it, and to sop up all sorts of tasty food liquids. It doesn’t need to be sweet for either of those purposes. It’s the sweet cornbread that must leave one questioning its purpose.

Sweet cornbread exists to be buttered and eaten, preferably while it’s still warm from the baking. It does not need to sop up pot likker, though of course it can.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/44 "2013-09-22T17:49:09Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> I realize this isn’t really on topic, but I just have to point out that the terms “to beg the question” and “to raise the question” mean very different things.
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> Here’s a good explanation of what it means to beg the question:
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> [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html](http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html)

I suspect most SDMB readers know this–it’s come up often here–but I personally use and wi continue to use the phrase as it is most commonly understood.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/45 "2013-09-22T18:26:35Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> That would be correct. Do people put syrup on polenta? ( And polenta need not be fried, either.)

Polenta is cornmeal mush with a college education.\* If it’s fried, you may indeed put syrup on it.

- “Training is everything. The peach was once a bitter almond; cauliflower is nothing but Cabbage with a College Education.” Mark Twain, _The Tragedy of Pudd’nhead Wilson_

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/46 "2013-09-22T18:37:18Z")

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Well, at any rate, no sugar in/on either for me.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/47 "2013-09-22T18:59:11Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Those of you who are claiming cornbread should never itself be sweetened need to get off your high horses.

People who are insecure about their palate often deride those whose tastes differ.

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**Author:** ![Tara57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@Tara57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tara57)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/48 "2013-09-22T19:23:55Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> And, for those of you who object to sweet cornbread - what do you think of things like corn muffins, or blueberry cornbread, or cobblers made with cornbread crusts?

I like sweet corn muffins as a breakfast or snack item. I haven’t tried blueberry cornbread or cornbread crust cobblers, but I think I would like them. I don’t like sweet cornbread as a side when the cornbread is intended to be dipped or crumbled into a dish like soup, beans, or greens. The sweetness doesn’t go with those flavors; those flavors call for savory, earthy cornbread.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/49 "2013-09-22T19:26:40Z")

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> Quoth **Scribble** :
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> And, for those of you who object to sweet cornbread - what do you think of things like corn muffins, or blueberry cornbread, or cobblers made with cornbread crusts?

Corn muffins are the same thing as cornbread, just baked in a different pan, and like cornbread are unsweetened. I don’t think I’ve had blueberry cornbread, and not sure about cornbread cobbler, but in either case I would expect the sweet fruit to be embedded in a non-sweet matrix.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/50 "2013-09-22T20:24:07Z")

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> [@missred](#):
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> It’s also good crumbled in … a tall glass of buttermilk ( something my granny called a hillbilly milkshake).

That’s got to be the most disgusting thing I’ve heard in ages. \<shudder\>

Warm cornbread with lots of butter, that’s the way to do it!

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**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/51 "2013-09-22T20:34:09Z")

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> [@St\_Monica](#):
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> My absolute favorite cornbread mix is that little cheap box of Jiffy. The best.

Yes. I have a Buffalo chicken pot pie recipe that calls for a box of Jiffy for the crust. Good stuff. 🙂

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**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/52 "2013-09-22T21:20:59Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Sweet cornbread is an abomination foisted off on the unsuspecting by Yankees.

I think you just fired the opening shot in the next American civil war. 😃

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/53 "2013-09-22T23:20:54Z")

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Hell, if the war didn’t start over my comments on BBQ, beer, Tex-Mex, chili or baseball, I don’t think cornbread will send Henry Farley to his battery. 😃

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/54 "2013-09-22T23:39:24Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Corn muffins are the same thing as cornbread, just baked in a different pan, and like cornbread are unsweetened. I don’t think I’ve had blueberry cornbread, and not sure about cornbread cobbler, but in either case I would expect the sweet fruit to be embedded in a non-sweet matrix.

This is my experience, as well, but cobbler usually does have some sugar in the crust part. I’ve never had it made with cornbread, though. It’s not in and of itself a bad idea–it’s just that when I think of “cornbread,” I kind of expect something not sweet, just like when I think of regular “bread” (and that’s part of the reason I hate certain kinds of bread, like King’s Hawaiian, because bread on its own–to me–is not supposed to taste like dessert.) So I’m fine if you sugar up your cobblers or whatnot. Just keep that sugar away from generic “cornbread.”

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**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/55 "2013-09-23T00:00:06Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> This makes me so sad I have to share my favorite cornbread recipe:  
> [ul]  
> [li]Get a 10" cast iron skillet, add a tablespoon of butter and put it in an oven preheated to 400F[/li][li]Stir together 2 cups yellow cornmeal (stone ground preferably), 1 tsp baking soda, and 1 tsp salt[/li][li]In a separate bowl beat 2 cups buttermilk, 2 eggs and 1 tbsp vegetable oil[/li][li]Combine the wet and dry mixtures, being careful not to overbeat[/li][li]Scrape the batter into the hot skillet and bake until it is golden brown and crusty at the edges, approx. 25 minutes.[/li][li]Serve warm[/li][/ul]
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> I love this because it has a great corn _and_ buttermilk flavor. Simple and straightforward with just a few ingredients.
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> Give it a try **Elendil’s Heir**. If this doesn’t work then I will admit cornbread just doesn’t work for you. 🙂

I already planned on making soup for dinner, I just put this in the oven to go with it. Thanks!

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/56 "2013-09-23T00:09:24Z")

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> [@Dr.Girlfriend](#):
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> Yes. I have a Buffalo chicken pot pie recipe that calls for a box of Jiffy for the crust. Good stuff. 🙂

Recipe, please?!

My children love my cornbread. They’ll eat it with shredded cheddar cheese for dinner. It’s not sweet, but is very buttery. Back when I made it only for grown ups, I would do the creamed corn thing. It’s truly the only use for that crime against culinary goods.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/57 "2013-09-23T02:15:40Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> People who are insecure about their palate often deride those whose tastes differ.

Indeed.

And for the record, I grew up in Oregon (not really the North but whatever), and I never had sweet corn bread until I moved to the south, where it is made by cajun chefs and is PHENOMENAL.

I was never crazy about cornbread (I liked it well enough), until I tried the sweetened goodness that the southern cajun chefs make on the boat. And it’s so damn good it has practically ruined any other cornbread for me.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/58 "2013-09-23T02:45:30Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Indeed.

Nah. Nobody really gives a shit. If you like to put fingernail clippings in your cornbread, that’s fine with me. 😉

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/59 "2013-09-23T02:55:00Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Nah. Nobody really gives a shit. If you like to put fingernail clippings in your cornbread, that’s fine with me. 😉

If nobody truly gave a shit then it would be “Here’s my recipe for cornbread” “Oh, you like sweet corn bread? Cool.”

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornbread-the-perfect-food-that-goes-with-almost-everything/669352/60 "2013-09-23T03:16:51Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> If nobody truly gave a shit then it would be “Here’s my recipe for cornbread” “Oh, you like sweet corn bread? Cool.”

Nah. It’s just playful teasing. Nobody (or very few people) actually give a shit. I’ll tease about, I guess, putting ketchup on hot dogs. Because you just don’t do that. But I really don’t give a shit if you do. It’s just playing around. Just like with barbecue and how done you like your steaks and stuff like that. Really. Who in their right might gives a shit about that?

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