# Cornell frat suspended for game in which men compete to have sex with overweight women **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 7, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385 "2018-02-07T20:18:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/21 "2018-02-08T02:27:08Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > If the guys were not turned on they wouldn’t be able to get it up. We’re talking about college freshmen. They can get a hard on looking at linoleum. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/22 "2018-02-08T02:42:43Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > We’re talking about college freshmen. They can get a hard on looking at linoleum. But who among us can’t? [I mean, look at this beauty](https://inspectapedia.com/interiors/Linoleum_ca_1930_023_EPs.jpg). Can any man (or woman) truly claim that it doesn’t arouse…stirrings inside of us? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/23 "2018-02-08T03:39:48Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > What speech are you talking about? Did they ban the participants from talking about it? No. Did you read the OP where it was suggested that colleges do just that? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/24 "2018-02-08T04:10:49Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > But who among us can’t? [I mean, look at this beauty](https://inspectapedia.com/interiors/Linoleum_ca_1930_023_EPs.jpg). Can any man (or woman) truly claim that it doesn’t arouse…stirrings inside of us? I don’t want to seem shallow, but I find that crease to be really off-putting. Some of the features are kinda cute, though… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/25 "2018-02-08T04:14:07Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > We’re talking about college freshmen. They can get a hard on looking at linoleum. > [@Fenris](#): > > But who among us can’t? [I mean, look at this beauty](https://inspectapedia.com/interiors/Linoleum_ca_1930_023_EPs.jpg). Can any man (or woman) truly claim that it doesn’t arouse…stirrings inside of us? When I want to sport serious wood, I go for the parquet every time. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/26 "2018-02-08T04:28:37Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > But who among us can’t? [I mean, look at this beauty](https://inspectapedia.com/interiors/Linoleum_ca_1930_023_EPs.jpg). Hey, we have a two-click rule for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/27 "2018-02-08T04:31:21Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Did you read the OP where it was suggested that colleges do just that? Oh, the part where the OP says that the club name is enough to deserve punnishment? Well, what of it? It’s perfectly reasonable for institutions to enforce codes of behaviour that extend to offensive name-calling. I’m fine with that. Your US legal system is fine with that too. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/28 "2018-02-08T04:32:45Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Did you read the OP where it was suggested that colleges do just that? I read the OP and didn’t see that. You want to quote it? ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/29 "2018-02-08T05:04:42Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > My son had a band for several years called the chubby chasers. They played on clubs that were frequented by plus size women. My sons wife is a hottey but they all played the part that chubby was their thing. Phew, glad your son doesn’t have some fatty wife! > [@](#): > > Funny thing was that 2 of the single guys in the band actually started becoming attracted to the larger women. Once they got to know them they really liked them. Man, that _is_ funny! Who coulda thought that was even possible, huh? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/30 "2018-02-08T05:08:03Z")
> [@zweisamkeit](#): > > Phew, glad your son doesn’t have some fatty wife! > > Man, that _is_ funny! Who coulda thought that was even possible, huh? :rolleyes: Obviously it didn’t come off like it was intended. I think it was just an example that heavy women can be attractive if we let ourselves be open minded. I think we get trained by media on what we are supposed to think is attractive. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/31 "2018-02-08T05:52:07Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > Oh, the part where the OP says that the club name is enough to deserve punnishment? Well, what of it? It’s perfectly reasonable for institutions to enforce codes of behaviour that extend to offensive name-calling. I’m fine with that. Your US legal system is fine with that too. Actually, the US legal system isn’t fine with it. At least with regards to public universities. > [@cochrane](#): > > I read the OP and didn’t see that. You want to quote it? I underlined it for you. Hopefully, that doesn’t break some esoteric or bizarre board rule. > [@aldiboronti](#): > > [https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/cornell-fraternity-zeta-beta-tau-suspended-for-offensive-pig-roast-game.html](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/cornell-fraternity-zeta-beta-tau-suspended-for-offensive-pig-roast-game.html) > > OK, pig roast as a title is totally offensive and well out of order. These guys need to be punished for that alone, it’s needlessly cruel. Hogging as a description is equally offensive, But apart from the terms is this really so bad? The women targeted get an opportunity to get laid which they’re quite at liberty to refuse (but, let’s face it, if they are really overweight those opportunities may be few and far between) and some of the guys may find to their surprise there’s a really nice woman in there. > > Bar those names, which unfortunately are a fact of life in college, I see no downside here (although it’s been so long since I was an undergrad that I’m perfectly willing to be told that I’m wrong and things have changed (it certainly doesn’t sound like it though!) ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/32 "2018-02-08T08:33:24Z")
[quote=“octopus, post:31, topic:808385”] Actually, the US legal system isn’t fine with it. At least with regards to public universities. / [QUOTE] Isn’t Cornell a private university? ---
**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/33 "2018-02-08T15:19:37Z")
I was once banned from such a game. On a slow night a bunch of guys working in a casino were discussing having a “pig party” after work; the plan was for everybody to put $100 into a pool and meet up two hours after work – whoever showed up with the nastiest woman won the money. One guy said “I know who I’ll bring. There’s a crazy shopping cart lady who sleeps on the bus stop bench in front of White Cross Drugs.” I said “Oh, you mean Deidra.” The guys said “You can’t play. Jeezus – he knows her name!” (I don’t give money to beggars and homeless people but I do sometimes offer to buy them food and I sit and eat with them. Deidra said she’d only ‘go out with me’ if I danced with her, so we danced on the sidewalk and had a sandwich at the lunch counter in the drug store … a few times. She was totally insane but harmless, and evertually disappeared.) ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/34 "2018-02-08T16:15:11Z")
[quote=“Isamu, post:32, topic:808385”] [quote=“octopus, post:31, topic:808385”] Actually, the US legal system isn’t fine with it. At least with regards to public universities. / > [@](#): > > Isn’t Cornell a private university? That’s actually really complicated. Most of Cornell is private, but 3/7 undergraduate colleges are kinda sorta part of the SUNY system. But they aren’t talking about expelling the boys, they are talking about whether or not the frat will be allowed to operate as part of the community. That’s really different. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/35 "2018-02-08T18:27:13Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The whole concept is trashy. Doesn’t mean it’s the university’s job to get involved. So you’re ok with college guys humiliating fat women and don’t see why the university should step in to keep it or a similar situation from happening again. Got it. A university is a place for people to learn, obviously. If an organization sanctioned by the university is considered to act in a manner in opposition to that objective, the university has every right to reprimand it. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/36 "2018-02-08T18:33:52Z")
Fraternities are officially endorsed by universities because of the presumption that they teach and encourage their members to be better individuals in some vaguely-defined way. If a fraternity demonstrably does not teach and encourage their members to be better individuals, they cease to be endorsed by their host university. “Not getting involved” means not allowing the fraternity on campus. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/37 "2018-02-08T19:40:28Z")
seems someone watched an old episode of cold case files (the scripted drama)…at least no one locked anyone else in before one of the victims went back for revenge and burned the frat house down … ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/38 "2018-02-08T19:49:31Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > When I want to sport serious wood, I go for the parquet every time. Butter. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/39 "2018-02-09T02:51:48Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > So you’re ok with college guys humiliating fat women and don’t see why the university should step in to keep it or a similar situation from happening again. Got it. > > A university is a place for people to learn, obviously. If an organization sanctioned by the university is considered to act in a manner in opposition to that objective, the university has every right to reprimand it. Interesting interpretation. I feel it’s not a college’s place to dictate sexual practices or what people say. Nanny state or nanny college isn’t a good thing. That doesn’t mean I endorse piggish behavior and I think it’s a pathetic attack to state otherwise. Got it? ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385/40 "2018-02-09T07:35:41Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Interesting interpretation. I feel it’s not a college’s place to dictate sexual practices or what people say. Nanny state or nanny college isn’t a good thing. That doesn’t mean I endorse piggish behavior and I think it’s a pathetic attack to state otherwise. Got it? How is sanctioning horrendous behavior being a “nanny college”? They’re protecting students. While you may not be endorsing the frat boys’ bad behavior, you’re not condemning it, either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornell-frat-suspended-for-game-in-which-men-compete-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/808385.md?page=3)