# Cornish Pasty in England. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954 "2018-11-03T23:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/81 "2018-11-08T00:55:39Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Speaking of Pratchett, isn’t the A30 the one that has the demonic runes planned into its interchanges? The M25 London orbital motorway is the one Crowley subtly redesigned into a dread sigil. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/82 "2018-11-08T01:30:10Z")
I’ve seen pasty shops in other parts of Michigan besides the UP, although I won’t argue that they’re more prevalent there. I’ve also heard rumors that they can be found in Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/83 "2018-11-08T04:42:00Z")
There is a Myles Teddywedgers in Madison Wisconsin. There were Cornish miners in Wisconsin. Lived in caves like badgers… Wisconsin Badgers. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/84 "2018-11-08T05:42:13Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Was it from a pub? The best one I’ve ever had came from a Cornish pub. > > I’ve been living in Canada for almost ten years now, but I haven’t had a pasty that good. Jamaican patties can compare, however, so long as they’re fresh and not frozen. No, I found a Ye Olde Cornish Bakery that said it had won awards for it’s pasties, so while waiting in line at the counter I was actually salivating about the prospect. I have NEVER been so disappointed in my life. Obviously I should have found a pub down a side-street that didn’t advertise. Dammit. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/85 "2018-11-08T05:57:42Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > Agreed. Although I pronounce ass ‘arse’ Even when it’s an animal? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/86 "2018-11-08T06:00:19Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > No, I found a Ye Olde Cornish Bakery that said it had won awards for it’s pasties, so while waiting in line at the counter I was actually salivating about the prospect. > > I have NEVER been so disappointed in my life. Obviously I should have found a pub down a side-street that didn’t advertise. Dammit. > > 😛 Mine was on a little back road in the Cornish countryside. I wonder if I’ll ever be able to find it again. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/87 "2018-11-08T07:29:40Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > That’s because it goes right past Stonehenge. 🆒 Close! That’s the A303. Another very busy road, although it’s a few counties away from Cornwall. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/88 "2018-11-08T10:37:21Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Even when it’s an animal? Hmm. I’m not sure I’ve ever said the animal out loud. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/89 "2018-11-08T11:29:06Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Even when it’s an animal? But then I would pronounce it “donkey”. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/90 "2018-11-08T11:51:44Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > No, I found a Ye Olde Cornish Bakery that said it had won awards for it’s pasties, so while waiting in line at the counter I was actually salivating about the prospect. > > I have NEVER been so disappointed in my life. Obviously I should have found a pub down a side-street that didn’t advertise. Dammit. > > 😛 Ah. Basically every pasty shop in Cornwall has a sign outside saying it’s won awards for its pasties. I’m not sure if there’s awards for ‘X Street’s okayest pasty’ or what. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/91 "2018-11-08T14:35:27Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > > [@Batano](#): > > > > A London Broil is nothing like a “mixed grill”. It’s a largish cut of steak that is marinated and cut in strips when served. > > I stand corrected. That doesn’t sound like anything we identify as a separate dish… I think that’s WHY we call it London broil. Because in England, people tend to cut their meat into thin slices before serving, whereas in the US we serve thick steaks (or thick slices of roasts) and cut it into ~cubes to eat. Or so my cookbooks lead me to believe. So when we cook a steak and don’t just cut it into chunks to serve it, but instead slice it thin, across the grain, that’s “London style”. Getting back to pasties – two pages and no recipes? Does anyone here cook them and care to share? ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/92 "2018-11-08T14:55:17Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I think that’s WHY we call it London broil. Because in England, people tend to cut their meat into thin slices before serving, whereas in the US we serve thick steaks (or thick slices of roasts) and cut it into ~cubes to eat. Or so my cookbooks lead me to believe. So when we cook a steak and don’t just cut it into chunks to serve it, but instead slice it thin, across the grain, that’s “London style”. > > Getting back to pasties – two pages and no recipes? Does anyone here cook them and care to share? I was about to get all uppity at the above suggestion, but then if I think about roast dinners, then I suppose we do slice the meat thinly. Or, at least, less steak like. I guess. We do eat steaks as well though, ya know! ---
**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/93 "2018-11-08T15:15:45Z")
Here in NE MN pasties are pretty common. My mom’s church ladies (Catholic) make them twice a year (spring and fall) to sell for a fundraiser. One of the American Legions does the same thing. There is also a family-run company north of us on the Iron Range that makes them and ships them to various grocery stores around here. All are similar - folded pastry shell filled with beef, potatoes, carrots, onions, and rutabagas. I love them with gravy, my husband douses his with ketchup. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/94 "2018-11-08T15:25:55Z")
> [@Filbert](#): > > Ah. Basically every pasty shop in Cornwall has a sign outside saying it’s won awards for its pasties. I’m not sure if there’s awards for ‘X Street’s okayest pasty’ or what. Probably like this seedy-looking restaurant I used to pass on my way to work with the sign, “World famous hamburgers.” I figured it was because a guy from Toronto stopped by once. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/95 "2018-11-08T15:43:43Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > Hmm. I’m not sure I’ve ever said the animal out loud. I mostly use it in talking about Nick Cave novels. ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/96 "2018-11-08T16:33:00Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Getting back to pasties – two pages and no recipes? Does anyone here cook them and care to share? You know, I don’t know _anyone_ who makes their own pasties, and I do know some decent home bakers. They are very much a grab-for-lunch-from-the-bakery type food. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/97 "2018-11-08T17:57:47Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > You know, I don’t know _anyone_ who makes their own pasties, and I do know some decent home bakers. They are very much a grab-for-lunch-from-the-bakery type food. I do! I pretty much make it up as I go along though, so I haven’t got a recipe, as such. Those who get sniffy about such things will say beef skirt is the only permitted option, others will say - as mentioned above - that tin mining families doubtless ate whatever they could lay their hands on! It does work pretty well though. So Make a basic short pastry, pile it with your mixture of chopped beef, spuds (I’ve tried using things like Maris Piper or King Edward as that’s what I usually have in, but they fall to bits - I prefer something waxier for this) onions and swede, and I don’t care who says what about carrots, sometimes I’ll put them in too. Salt & pepper, obviously, but a tiny bit of allspice and/or nutmeg/mace is good too. Maybe not traditional in a pasty, but classic British spicing nevertheless which - if done subtly - just sort of rounds out the flavour of the swede rather than invading the overall taste of the filling. Kind of bridges the gap between the swede and the pepper. Fold, crimp (no I’m not getting into “top or side” thanks), egg wash if you can be bothered, milk if you can’t, bake. About 50ish minutes, maybe an hour, at about gas 4. That probably doesn’t really help a beginner very much, but if you know baking and never make pasties, it should give you something to go on. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/98 "2018-11-08T18:03:35Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > You know, I don’t know _anyone_ who makes their own pasties, and I do know some decent home bakers. They are very much a grab-for-lunch-from-the-bakery type food. I’ve made them, and I have a family recipe around here somewhere, but **Teuton** is right. Why would I make them when I can run out at any time and get a damn good pasty for $5 and gravy to boot? It’s the antithesis of something I’d want to make at home. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/99 "2018-11-08T18:11:20Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > That probably doesn’t really help a beginner very much, but if you know baking and never make pasties, it should give you something to go on. Swedes: [http://dtlon6z3v1kfl.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/27104914/bd91d126ccad299c222a56c2bb511a09.jpg](http://dtlon6z3v1kfl.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/27104914/bd91d126ccad299c222a56c2bb511a09.jpg) Huh-huh! Huh-huh! 😃 \*Yes, I know a swede is a rutabaga, thank you very much! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954/100 "2018-11-08T19:06:06Z")
I didn’t know what a swede was, so thanks for that clarification. Is the filling pre-cooked, or do you just count on it baking inside the crust? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cornish-pasty-in-england/823954.md?page=6)