# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 107
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2123 "2020-04-08T21:19:12Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Considering their total positive cases is greater than their total number of tests, I’m going with reporting error. Yes it looks like it’s misreported - I should have checked beofre posting. The Worldometers site is reporting the number of tests in the cases column, the true number according to Nevada’s own counter is 2,318… > **[Power BI Report](https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMjA2ZThiOWUtM2FlNS00MGY5LWFmYjUtNmQwNTQ3Nzg5N2I2IiwidCI6ImU0YTM0MGU2LWI4OWUtNGU2OC04ZWFhLTE1NDRkMjcwMzk4MCJ9)** > > Report powered by Power BI ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2124 "2020-04-08T21:22:30Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Navada just announced 22,547 new cases today. Before that their _total_ number sat at 2,087. Can anyone explain what happened here? cOULD IT BE A TYPO? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2125 "2020-04-08T21:55:44Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > BREAKING: Kansas Republican Leadership (Wagle, Denning, Ryckman, Hawkins, Finch) just revoked Gov. Kelly’s executive order banning large gatherings. > > This on the day Kansas reported its largest single day of #COVID19 deaths. > #ksleg > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/Davis_Hammet/status/1247982327835299841?s=19) Well. That is not going to end well. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2126 "2020-04-08T21:57:11Z")
I can’t find a source yet but I’m hearing that a member of the White House press corps began feeling ill after today’s briefing and is being tested for Covid-19. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2127 "2020-04-08T22:43:50Z")
French hospital stops hydroxychloroquine use due to cardiac dangers. > **[French Hospital Stops Hydroxychloroquine Treatment for COVID-19 Patient](https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-1496810)** > > The head of cardiology said they are now monitoring the ECG recordings of patients in the trial. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2128 "2020-04-08T22:55:12Z")
(from an unsourced tweet via reddit, sourced from a [Daily Mail article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-8183419/Wimbledon-set-net-huge-100m-insurance-payout-tournament-cancelled.html), so gain of salt and all) After SARS, Wimbledon added a ~£1.5mil/year pandemic rider to their insurance policy. They’re filing a claim that could get them a £100mil+ payout after canceling this year’s tournament. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2129 "2020-04-09T04:05:03Z")
1,518,719 confirmed infections 88,502 dead 330,589 recovered In the US: 435,128 confirmed infections 14,795 dead 22,891 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 1,431,706 confirmed infections > 82,080 dead > 302,150 recovered > > In the US: > > 400,412 confirmed infections > 12,854 dead > 21,674 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2130 "2020-04-09T04:06:22Z")
[HHS: Federal stocks of protective equipment nearly depleted](https://apnews.com/a464316e25560d393bd07a021b7e81ba) > [@](#): > > The Strategic National Stockpile is nearly out of the N95 respirators, surgical masks, face, shields, gowns and other medical supplies desperately needed to protect front-line medical workers treating coronavirus patients. > > The Department of Health and Human Services told the Associated Press Wednesday that the federal stockpile was in the process of deploying all remaining personal protective equipment in its inventory. > > The HHS statement confirms federal documents released Wednesday by the House Oversight and Reform Committee showing that about 90% of the personal protective equipment in the stockpile has been distributed to state and local governments. > > HHS spokeswoman Katie McKeogh said the remaining 10% will be kept in reserve to support federal response efforts. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2131 "2020-04-09T04:16:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > French hospital stops hydroxychloroquine use due to cardiac dangers. > [French Hospital Stops Hydroxychloroquine Treatment for COVID-19 Patient Over Major Cardiac Risk](https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-1496810) In ONE patient. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2132 "2020-04-09T04:24:06Z")
I don’t believe that hydrochloroguine is going to prove effective but that is a very misleading reading of that story. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2133 "2020-04-09T04:27:42Z")
Note that hydroxychloroquine is a drug you take to prevent getting malaria. There is no way that a drug which has a significant cardiac danger would be used in this manner. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2134 "2020-04-09T05:03:50Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [HHS: Federal stocks of protective equipment nearly depleted](https://apnews.com/a464316e25560d393bd07a021b7e81ba) Well, who got them? Didn’t DJTJr say that those weren’t for the states? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2135 "2020-04-09T05:11:13Z")
I guess even in the middle of a pandemic, [criminals have to criminal](https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2020/04/693_287570.html): > [@The Korea Times](#): > > **Scam alert: Beware of fake Korean masks** > > Watch out for scammers who are trying to rip you off with fake Korean masks. > > According to the Hankook Ilbo, sister paper of The Korea Times, scammers in Southeast Asia are selling fake Korean masks at a time when good-quality masks are difficult to find because of the COVID-19 pandemic. > > On the surface, it may look just like a famous Korean product with a KF94 filter ― but what’s inside is not the same. _More at the link._ Some people are scum. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2136 "2020-04-09T05:24:27Z")
The German newspaper _Berliner Morgenpost_ has a [coronavirus-visualization](https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/?fbclid=IwAR04HlqzakGaNssQzbz4d8o8R3gz0C910U8tvfYlBT6P0lVJJvHfk9uS2rc) with a useful feature that shows both the overall current trend in new infections (i. e. number of new infections/day trending up, down, or staying stable), as well as the current doubling rate (if you switch to ‘Neuinfektionen’, new infections). Unfortunately, it shows explicit data only for Germany/Europe/the world at large, and it’s obviously in German. Here’s the first couple of nations until I got bored (the current doubling rate for the whole world is 10 days, with the number of new infections/day trending up): ```auto Name total 2x trending ---------------------------------------- USA 431.179 7,0 up Spain 148.220 13,5 down Italy 139.422 21,0 down Germany 113.296 13,5 down France 82.048 7,0 down China 81.862 > 365 up Iran 64.586 16,0 down UK 60.733 6,5 up Turkey 38.226 5,5 up Belgium 23.403 9,5 stable Schwitzerland 23.280 18,0 down Netherlands 20.549 12,0 stable Canada 19.277 7,5 up Brasil 16.188 5,5 up Portugal 13.141 10,5 down Austria 12.942 25,0 down South Korea 10.423 99,0 down Israel 9.404 11,0 down Russia 8.672 4,5 up Sweden 8.419 9,0 up Ireland 6.074 8,5 up Norway 6.042 21,5 down Australia 6.010 23,0 down ``` I haven’t yet found that data displayed anywhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2137 "2020-04-09T05:30:53Z")
[The mayor of Seoul shuts down all bars and clubs](https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/04/119_287568.html) because too many people are morons, or to use his words: > [@](#): > > “New cases from a room salon in Gangnam is worrisome. Patients from the bar jeopardize public health for the entire city of Seoul and their inconsiderate behavior needs to be stopped,” Park said. “I understand people are getting tired of social distancing. But we can’t afford to let our guards down.” I think it’s time to quit being polite when describing the morons. They’re not inconsiderate. They’re a public danger. Name them and shame them. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2138 "2020-04-09T05:31:00Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > The German newspaper _Berliner Morgenpost_ has a [coronavirus-visualization](https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/?fbclid=IwAR04HlqzakGaNssQzbz4d8o8R3gz0C910U8tvfYlBT6P0lVJJvHfk9uS2rc) with a useful feature that shows both the overall current trend in new infections (i. e. number of new infections/day trending up, down, or staying stable), as well as the current doubling rate (if you switch to ‘Neuinfektionen’, new infections). > > Unfortunately, it shows explicit data only for Germany/Europe/the world at large, and it’s obviously in German. > > Here’s the first couple of nations until I got bored (the current doubling rate for the whole world is 10 days, with the number of new infections/day trending up): > > ```auto > > Name total 2x trending > ---------------------------------------- > USA 431.179 7,0 up > Spain 148.220 13,5 down > Italy 139.422 21,0 down > Germany 113.296 13,5 down > France 82.048 7,0 down > China 81.862 > 365 up > Iran 64.586 16,0 down > UK 60.733 6,5 up > Turkey 38.226 5,5 up > Belgium 23.403 9,5 stable > Schwitzerland 23.280 18,0 down > Netherlands 20.549 12,0 stable > Canada 19.277 7,5 up > Brasil 16.188 5,5 up > Portugal 13.141 10,5 down > Austria 12.942 25,0 down > South Korea 10.423 99,0 down > Israel 9.404 11,0 down > Russia 8.672 4,5 up > Sweden 8.419 9,0 up > Ireland 6.074 8,5 up > Norway 6.042 21,5 down > Australia 6.010 23,0 down > > ``` > > I haven’t yet found that data displayed anywhere else. Uh, apologies to our southern neighbors for accidentally calling you ‘Schwitzerland’, the land of people who sweat. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2139 "2020-04-09T06:03:08Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Note that hydroxychloroquine is a drug you take to prevent getting malaria. There is no way that a drug which has a significant cardiac danger would be used in this manner. Define “significant.” Cardiac damage is a rare side effect of both chloroquine and hydroxycloroquine; there appears to be no good data on how often it manifests, so can be assumed to be very rare, but when it happens, it can be irreversible or fatal. That risk has been recognized for decades. (See this [review article](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29858838), although it’s only an abstract unless you or your institution have a subscription.) The [current FDA-approved label](https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2017/009768s037s045s047lbl.pdf) for Plaquenil (brand-name hydroxychloroquine) carries a warning that “Postmarketing cases of life-threatening and fatal cardiomyopathy have been reported with use of PLAQUENIL as well as with use of chloroquine. Patients may present with atrioventricular block, pulmonary hypertension, sick sinus syndrome or with cardiac complications. ECG findings may include atrioventricular, right or left bundle branch block. Signs or symptoms of cardiac compromise have appeared during acute and chronic treatment. Clinical monitoring for signs and symptoms of cardiomyopathy is advised, including use of appropriate diagnostic tools such as ECG to monitor patients for cardiomyopathy during PLAQUENIL therapy.” Like many drug treatments, there is a trade-off to be made; malaria is more likely to be deleterious than the side effects of hydroxychloroquine, so it gets used anyway. That doesn’t mean the side effects don’t harm or kill some recipients. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2141 "2020-04-09T08:55:50Z")
> [@BillGoldberg](#): > > Doctor on the frontline Got severe covid-19, treats himself with hcq. His father has covid19, was incubated now extubated they think due to hcq You signed up for an account here just to post a YouTube video by a known quack? I am very curious to see whether you will stick around or if this is just drive-by snake-oil propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2144 "2020-04-09T09:07:32Z")
> [@BillGoldberg](#): > > Sure, they keep banning me and I keep making new IDs Reported. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2145 "2020-04-09T09:13:18Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Note that hydroxychloroquine is a drug you take to prevent getting malaria. There is no way that a drug which has a significant cardiac danger would be used in this manner. Incorrect. It _does_ have a known cardiac risk. [It’s a known side effect.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine#Side_effects). Given that covid-19 can also affect the heard, putting hydroxychloroquine on top of it could certainly make things more risky. Lot of medications have potentially serious side effects but are still used. [url=[Paracetamol - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol#Liver_damage)]Tylenol is a significant cause of liver failure in the US, yet it’s available over the counter [/quote] as just one example. I don’t know where you get the idea that because a drug has a risky side effect it wouldn’t be used. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=106) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=108)