# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2648 "2020-04-22T21:22:31Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Ferrets have been experimentally infected with COVID19, and they’ve shown ferret to ferret transmission to occur in ferrets. Ferrets get human influenza very easily and are used in influenza research. Look for the cost of pet ferrets to climb, as more are purchased for research.  
> Cite: [PDF of a Journal pre-proof: Infection and Rapid Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Ferrets](https://www.cell.com/pb-assets/journals/research/cell-host-microbe/PDFs/chom_2285_preproof.pdf)

NOW you tell me, I was at Petco earlier today to refill the kitty litter, and I made my customary stop at the ferret cage to spend a minute squealing over them.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2649 "2020-04-22T22:03:48Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> [url=[UK coronavirus deaths more than double official figure, according to FT study | Free to read](https://www.ft.com/content/67e6a4ee-3d05-43bc-ba03-e239799fa6ab)]
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> I would probably expect a similar outcome in the US, if the UK is seeing this, so it’s likely that we’re only seeing about 50% of fatalities in our current reporting.

The number I am curious about is triage fatalities, by which I mean how many people might have made it but did not because the system was too heavily burdened dealing with the pandemic. In some areas, I suspect that number could realistically add five percent to the total, and ought to be included in it even when the cause of death was not directly due to the virus.

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**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2650 "2020-04-22T22:17:11Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Ferrets have been experimentally infected with COVID19, and they’ve shown ferret to ferret transmission to occur in ferrets. …

There must be some sort of award for the most times the word ‘ferret’ is used in a sentence. Maybe a Pulitzer.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2651 "2020-04-22T22:34:14Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The number I am curious about is triage fatalities, by which I mean how many people might have made it but did not because the system was too heavily burdened dealing with the pandemic. In some areas, I suspect that number could realistically add five percent to the total, and ought to be included in it even when the cause of death was not directly due to the virus.

Hard to make a comparison due to factors of diet, average population age, how much testing has occured, etc. but Italy has a 13.4% fatality rate and the US currently has a 5.6% fatality rate.

I’d rather go to the hospital when there’s equipment available.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2652 "2020-04-22T22:34:36Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The number I am curious about is triage fatalities, by which I mean how many people might have made it but did not because the system was too heavily burdened dealing with the pandemic. In some areas, I suspect that number could realistically add five percent to the total, and ought to be included in it even when the cause of death was not directly due to the virus.

In the UK, A&E departments are very quiet. This is generally attributed to people’s reluctance to go to a hospital which they see as a possible source of infection. It is also assumed that there must be people dying at home or in care homes who would normally have been taken to A&E and either survived or died in hospital. Of course, they are not getting the usual drunks and sports injuries either.

As a personal anecdote - two weeks ago I managed to cut the back of my thumb with a kitchen knife. (I was cutting the heads off rhubarb at the time). Under normal circumstances, I would have gone to our local hospital and had it stitched up, probably x-rayed as well. As it was, I got my wife to close the gash with steri-strips and bandage it. The wound has healed but there is some underlying damage to the tendon. Stewed rhubarb goes very well with ice cream.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2653 "2020-04-22T23:15:33Z")

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[The best people](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-hhschief-speci/special-report-former-labradoodle-breeder-tapped-to-lead-u-s-pandemic-task-force-idUSKCN2243CE). (Reuters) Always only the best people.

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> On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive, assured Americans the U.S. government was prepared.
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> \<snip\>
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> Shortly after his televised comments, Azar tapped a trusted aide with minimal public health experience to lead the agency’s day-to-day response to COVID-19. The aide, Brian Harrison, had joined the department after running a dog-breeding business for six years. Five sources say some officials in the White House derisively called him “the dog breeder.”

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2654 "2020-04-23T00:52:18Z")

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Jesus Fucking Christ! Did you see the CNN interview with the mayor of Las Vegas? That is one ignorant-as-fuck bitch. Makes me even glad we had to cancel our Vegas trip and makes me wary of ever going there while she’s in office.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2655 "2020-04-23T00:55:07Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Jesus Fucking Christ! Did you see the CNN interview with the mayor of Las Vegas? That is one ignorant-as-fuck bitch. Makes me even glad we had to cancel our Vegas trip and makes me wary of ever going there while she’s in office.

That was the most insane thing I’ve sat through since today’s coronavirus taskforce debriefing.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2656 "2020-04-23T00:56:54Z")

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> [@Banksiaman](#):
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> There must be some sort of award for the most times the word ‘ferret’ is used in a sentence. Maybe a Pulitzer.

The crowdsourced resources of the SDMB are likely best for ferreting out that sort of information …

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**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2657 "2020-04-23T01:01:53Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> [The best people](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-hhschief-speci/special-report-former-labradoodle-breeder-tapped-to-lead-u-s-pandemic-task-force-idUSKCN2243CE). (Reuters) Always only the best people.

History doesn’t repeat, but [it rhymes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Brown#IAHA_tenure).

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2658 "2020-04-23T01:07:11Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Jesus Fucking Christ! Did you see the CNN interview with the mayor of Las Vegas? That is one ignorant-as-fuck bitch. Makes me even glad we had to cancel our Vegas trip and makes me wary of ever going there while she’s in office.

> [@monstro](#):
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> That was the most insane thing I’ve sat through since today’s coronavirus taskforce debriefing.

Please remember that she is only the mayor of Las Vegas, not of the entire valley. Unless you go to downtown (Fremont Street), you will likely never set foot in the city of Las Vegas.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2659 "2020-04-23T01:09:36Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Please remember that she is only the mayor of Las Vegas, not of the entire valley. Unless you go to downtown (Fremont Street), you will likely never set foot in the city of Las Vegas.

Downtown is exactly where we had hotel reservations.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2660 "2020-04-23T01:15:22Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Please remember that she is only the mayor of Las Vegas, not of the entire valley. Unless you go to downtown (Fremont Street), you will likely never set foot in the city of Las Vegas.

Really? So what city are the Cosmo and Venetian in?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2661 "2020-04-23T01:19:12Z")

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No city. Unincorporated township of Paradise in Clark County, Nevada. It’s a perpetual tax haven for the casinos.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2662 "2020-04-23T01:28:27Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No city. Unincorporated township of Paradise in Clark County, Nevada. It’s a perpetual tax haven for the casinos.

But they might want to see the famous pawn shop, which is in the city.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2663 "2020-04-23T01:29:01Z")

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I’ve conducted the household ferret inventory; checked the quantity on hand versus the expected order point; consulted the economic order quantity figure.

We have sufficient ferrets on hand [zero] to weather upcoming ferret shortage.  
re Las Vegas mayor - not sane. Hawaii got a number of cases based on returning residents who visited our ninth island.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2664 "2020-04-23T01:37:46Z")

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> [@brossa](#):
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> History doesn’t repeat, but [it rhymes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Brown#IAHA_tenure).

Doesn’t it just. ☹

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2665 "2020-04-23T01:40:43Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Jesus Fucking Christ! Did you see the CNN interview with the mayor of Las Vegas? That is one ignorant-as-fuck bitch. Makes me even glad we had to cancel our Vegas trip and makes me wary of ever going there while she’s in office.

**Moderator Note**

Let’s keep invective like this to the Pit. In particular, let’s refrain from misogynistic epithets like “ignorant-as-fuck bitch.” No warning issued, but given that I’ve already given one note about this in this thread other ones may receive one.

Colibri  
Quarantine Zone Moderator

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2666 "2020-04-23T01:41:22Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> our ninth island.

What is the “ninth island” of HI? 😕

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2667 "2020-04-23T01:42:35Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> **Moderator Note**
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> Let’s keep invective like this to the Pit. In particular, let’s refrain from misogynistic epithets like “ignorant-as-fuck bitch.” No warning issued, but given that I’ve already given one note about this in this thread other ones may receive one.
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> Colibri  
> Quarantine Zone Moderator

Noted. I was so taken aback by the interview that I forgot which forum this was in.

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