# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2748 "2020-04-25T18:46:14Z")
> [@bardos](#): > > I’ll get to the point after a few sentences. Over the years, I have read many statistics related to wars and battles. They usually list the number of dead. Very occasionally they will mention the wounded, but this cohort seems to count less, although any wound, although maybe not life-threatening is definitely life-affecting. The loss of a finger or limb, impaired use of a hand, an arm, a leg, vision, hearing, to name a few. Now with covid-19, we have those death statistics (whether accurate or inaccurate), they are at least a ballpark figure. And now we are seeing the “recovered” statistics. My first reaction is that recovered implies that a patient is now 100%, back to normal. My question is, how true is this, are there health repercussions even for the “recovered”? It varies. I’ve read a lot of stories about people with impairs lung function, and sometimes worse problems, after recovering from covid. But I would assume that most of the people who have mild cases and recover are basically okay. I don’t think we know for certain, yet, however. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2749 "2020-04-25T19:30:54Z")
Today in Austria: [ul] [li] The Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP), the senior coalition partner in government, is enjoying **record popularity** , thanks in part to its handling of the pandemic. A recent poll pegs the ÖVP’s support at 45%. (Note that Austria is a multi-party state; there are current five parties in parliament, and throughout the country’s history coalition governments have been the norm, with only rare exceptions. So for any one party to command 45% support is pretty exceptional.)[/li] [li] Vienna’s version of **Oktoberfest** , the Wiesn Fest, has announced that this year’s event will be online only. IMHO this rather defeats the point of the festival, which is all about enjoying traditional food, drink, and live music in raucous beer halls filled with hundreds of lederhosen-clad revellers. They should have followed Munich’s lead and simply cancelled the event.[/li] [li] Parents are reportedly not happy about the planned **reopening of schools**. Two separate opinion polls show support for this at only 51 to 53%.[/li] [li] Many airlines, including Belavia and Wizz Air, are now resuming **regularly scheduled flights to Vienna**.[/li] [li] The state of Carinthia has approached the federal ministry of health with plans to reopen its **pools and beaches**. Visitors will be required to maintain sufficient distance from one another and to wear face masks in certain areas (though presumably not in the water). The health ministry had previously expressed skepticism that reopening indoor pools was feasible, given the propensity of children to comingle.[/li] [li] A number of **museums in Vienna** are planning to reopen their doors in the coming weeks. These include the National Library, the Museum for Applied Art, and possibly the Museum of Technology.[/li] [li] Current statistics: 15,117 confirmed infections, 536 deaths, 12,103 recovered.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2750 "2020-04-26T00:06:12Z")
> **[Thousands of Californians flock to open beaches during the heatwave](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8255763/Thousands-Californians-flock-open-beaches-despite-Gov-Newsoms-pleas-stay-home.html)** > > Pictures taken in Huntington Beach on Friday show crowds enjoying as the state roasted in a spring heat wave. Officials are bracing for even larger crowds this weekend. Where the fuck were the cops? If any of them had an open container tickets would have been handed out. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2751 "2020-04-26T00:54:23Z")
Once again, thank you, psychonaut. Interesting how about half of parents aren’t happy about the reopening of schools. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2752 "2020-04-26T01:50:03Z")
> [@bardos](#): > > I’ll get to the point after a few sentences. Over the years, I have read many statistics related to wars and battles. They usually list the number of dead. Very occasionally they will mention the wounded, but this cohort seems to count less, although any wound, although maybe not life-threatening is definitely life-affecting. The loss of a finger or limb, impaired use of a hand, an arm, a leg, vision, hearing, to name a few. Now with covid-19, we have those death statistics (whether accurate or inaccurate), they are at least a ballpark figure. And now we are seeing the “recovered” statistics. My first reaction is that recovered implies that a patient is now 100%, back to normal. My question is, how true is this, are there health repercussions even for the “recovered”? I’ve always been bad about that when reading about the human tolls of war or acute traumatic events like a plane or train crash. I see a list of “casualties” for a battle and I would think: “Don’t tell me the _casualties_, I want to know how many _died_.” Completely ignoring the wounded and sick because “Hey, you’re not dead so you’re fine, you lucky bastard!” That’s a sort of simplistic, black-or-white thinking that is shallow and not that helpful in times like this. I’m getting better. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2753 "2020-04-26T01:58:47Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > [Thousands of Californians flock to open beaches despite Gov. Newsom's pleas for them to stay home | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8255763/Thousands-Californians-flock-open-beaches-despite-Gov-Newsoms-pleas-stay-home.html) > > Where the fuck were the cops? If any of them had an open container tickets would have been handed out. I looked at the photos in your link: “Hey! Pretty young women in bikinis!! I’m so happy I don’t objectify them and think coarse, naughty thoughts.” Instead I simply think they are murderous, selfish, idiots. That’s Progress, I guess. Clueless, non-thinking, knuckle-dragger? #MeToo!!! ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2754 "2020-04-26T02:09:17Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > I looked at the photos in your link: “Hey! Pretty young women in bikinis!! I’m so happy I don’t objectify them and think coarse, naughty thoughts.” Instead I simply think they are murderous, selfish, idiots. > > That’s Progress, I guess. > > Clueless, non-thinking, knuckle-dragger? #MeToo!!! They are spreading the virus in the middle of the worst part of the pandemic. They are putting their own lives at risk because…youth. Im not sure what your rant is meant to express. > **[Young and middle-aged people, barely sick with covid-19, are dying of strokes](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/)** > > Doctors sound alarm about patients in their 30s and 40s left debilitated or dead by strokes. Some didn’t even know they were infected by coronavirus. [https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-strokes-patients-2a24fd6c-823a-4c49-a238-545dc7263248.html](https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-strokes-patients-2a24fd6c-823a-4c49-a238-545dc7263248.html) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2755 "2020-04-26T03:05:22Z")
The mayor of Beaumont, Texas violated her own stay at home order to go out and get her nails done. > **[Texas mayor apologizes after violating stay-at-home order to go to nail salon](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-mayor-apologizes-after-violating-stay-home-order-go-nail-n1192631)** > > Jefferson County District Attorney’s Office and the state's licensing and regulation department are investigating after Beaumont Mayor Becky Ames was seen at the salon. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2756 "2020-04-26T04:08:38Z")
2,921,439 total cases 203,289 dead 836,978 recovered In the US: 960,896 total cases 54,265 dead 118,162 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 2,830,255 total cases > 197,254 dead > 798,824 recovered > > In the US: > > 925,038 total cases > 52,185 dead > 110,432 recovered There will prolly be over 3,000,000 total cases worldwide tomorrow. The US will account for nearly one third of them. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2757 "2020-04-26T06:12:40Z")
And probably Monday the U.S. will hit a million total cases. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2758 "2020-04-26T06:29:47Z")
Looks like Honolulu, or at least Waikiki, has started joining in on the 7pm noisy salute to health workers. Heard it for the second night in a row tonight. Unfortunately, judging from the few cries of “Freedom!” mixed in with it, some people apparently think it’s a protest against the lockdown. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2759 "2020-04-26T06:56:56Z")
Wow. I didn’t notice it earlier, but New York has now overtaken Spain for total number of infections (288,313 vs. 223,759), nearly equaled it in total fatalities (21,908 vs. 22,902), and, excluding San Marino (which has a total of 40 fatalities), now leads the world in fatalities/million, with 1,117; leading Belgium (597/million) by nearly a factor of two. Spain, otherwise, has the second highest amount of infections after the US. What’s daily life like in New York? Are people coping, are they staying indoors? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2760 "2020-04-26T06:59:34Z")
> [@](#): > > The Church of God in Christ, the country’s biggest African American Pentecostal denomination, has taken a deep and painful leadership hit with reports of at least a dozen to up to 30 bishops and prominent clergy dying of covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus… > > News reports across the country cite local health officials saying specific outbreaks that led to the deaths appeared to stem from conferences and funerals held within the denomination, which is also known by its acronym, COGIC. The denomination, which was founded in the late 1800s and has more than 6 million members, holds large meetings with representatives from its 200 jurisdictions — or regions — each year around February or March. The gatherings of clergy, lay leaders and church staff are called Worker’s Meetings. > **[Covid-19 has killed multiple bishops and pastors within the nation’s largest...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/04/19/church-of-god-in-christ-pentecostal-coronavirus-kills-bishops/)** > > Church of God in Christ is clustered in states hit hard by virus -- Michigan, Mississippi, New York ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2761 "2020-04-26T18:48:39Z")
And if other news ain’t enough, try this: [Coronavirus detected on particles of air pollution](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/24/coronavirus-detected-particles-air-pollution) _Exclusive: Scientists examine whether this route enables infections at longer distances_ > [@](#): > > Coronavirus has been detected on particles of air pollution by scientists investigating whether this could enable it to be carried over longer distances and increase the number of people infected. > > The work is preliminary and it is not yet known if the virus remains viable on pollution particles and in sufficient quantity to cause disease. > > The Italian scientists used standard techniques to collect outdoor air pollution samples at one urban and one industrial site in Bergamo province and identified a gene highly specific to Covid-19 in multiple samples. The detection was confirmed by blind testing at an independent laboratory. Don’t inhale. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2762 "2020-04-26T21:21:26Z")
Today in Austria: [ul] [li] The minister for sport has announced that **summer sport camps** for youths and children will be permitted. The camps are free to conduct athletic and training exercises where the participants maintain two metres’ distance from one another. However, team and contact sports are prohibited.[/li] [li] As part of the education ministry’s plans for **reopening the schools** and making up for lost lessons, classes will be held on Ascension Day and Corpus Christi, which are public holidays in Austria. The national teachers’ union is not happy about this and has accused the government of breaking the law.[/li] [li] Residents of Slovakia held a protest at the **Austrian–Slovakian border** to protest the Slovakian government’s plans to tighten border controls on 1 May. The new controls will require cross-border commuters to show a medical certificate confirming that they are coronavirus-free.[/li] [li] Current statistics: 15,175 confirmed infections, 542 deaths, 12,282 recovered. As of 21 April, the coronavirus replication factor is 0.63. The daily growth rate in new infections is −12.3%.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2763 "2020-04-26T21:59:34Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 2,921,439 total cases > 203,289 dead > 836,978 recovered > > In the US: > > 960,896 total cases > 54,265 dead > 118,162 recovered > > Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:There will prolly be over 3,000,000 total cases worldwide tomorrow. The US will account for nearly one third of them. Why are we still seeing over 2000 deaths a day? I thought we had flattened the curve? Shouldn’t we be seeing progressively less death each day? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2764 "2020-04-26T22:43:58Z")
> [@mandala](#): > > Why are we still seeing over 2000 deaths a day? I thought we had flattened the curve? Shouldn’t we be seeing progressively less death each day? A “flattened” curve is not the same thing as a downward-sloping curve. With a flattened curve you could well see the same number of deaths daily for some period of time. ---
**Author:** ![yo\_han\_go](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yo_han_go/32/130_2.png) [@yo\_han\_go](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yo_han_go)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2765 "2020-04-26T23:45:45Z")
This week in Slovenia: [ul] [li]This week to go / to take away places opened (large queues at McDrives), also some recreational facilities (tenis, golf, etc) and technical and similar outlets. Solo outdoor recreation was never banned here, as wasn’t construction work and other core industries (were mauled from other restrictions tho). [/li][li]Next in line to open are hairdressers, physiotherapist et al.[/li][li]Schools stay closed (we are no Denmark to experiment on our children, minister said), also public transport and leaving your municipality without very good reason (like work). Basically, if you can keep it locally and within reasonable social distancing and hygiene, you are free to do almost anything you want on personal or business level (like gardening, roofing, house painting …).[/li][li]Residents of Slovenia could and can cross border to Austria and Italy and vice versa (but not Croatia and Hungary, you get hard-quarantined there) for commuting reasons (if solo in car). [/li][li]Current statistics pop 2M: 23557 tests/per million, 671 cases/per million, 39 dead/per million (80% in nursing homes for elderly). [/li][li]First results from random population scanning came back. Basically chosen from phone book. Both blood and mucus tests. N about 1000. 3 positive. For now. Still going, first batch should be around 3000. Second batch should include only minors. A lot of EU countries are doing something similar right now.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2766 "2020-04-26T23:53:23Z")
Taiwan has zero new cases yesterday for a total of 429 cases. It looks like the number of new infections from the navy ship has leveled off. There were four days in a row of just one and three the day before and two the day before, so one week only had eight new cases. Looking at the graphs of Taiwan, the number of active cases is 148 from a peak of 310. Taiwan hasn’t had to go into a general lockdown and it’s still looking good or far. Knock on wood. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2767 "2020-04-27T00:38:12Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Wow. I didn’t notice it earlier, but New York has now overtaken Spain for total number of infections (288,313 vs. 223,759), nearly equaled it in total fatalities (21,908 vs. 22,902), and, excluding San Marino (which has a total of 40 fatalities), now leads the world in fatalities/million, with 1,117; leading Belgium (597/million) by nearly a factor of two. Spain, otherwise, has the second highest amount of infections after the US. > > What’s daily life like in New York? Are people coping, are they staying indoors? We’ve been on total lockdown since 3/20 and things were really, REALLY rough starting a week after and up until last week. My daughter is NYPD and my son is an EMT in Elmont (which borders Queens, which was the most super fucked of the boroughs). For a time the dead were outstripping our capabilities. If you died at home, your family had to sit with your body for sometimes over 24 hours because there were just not enough hours in the day for the ME to get them. And a lot of people were dying at home. Not necessarily of the virus, but because nobody wanted to go into the hotbed vector that are our hospitals. Not enough room in hospital morgues, so refrigerated trucks were parked outside. There are pictures of the mass graves on Hart’s Island. Funeral homes were stacking bodies OUTSIDE in 65 degree weather. 20% of NYPD were out sick. Shit was seriously fucked UP. People are taking lockdown very seriously. There was a drive to protest the lockdown that coordinated with all the national protests. No one showed up. I mean not one, single, solitary person. The police were puzzled. Sure there are stupid people who don’t follow the rules. There are upwards of 15 million people here, of course there will be assholes. But my daughter tells of a call she got. It came in as vandalism and car damage. When she got to the site, it was 5 teenagers in a brand new Lexus who had been parading the car up and down Flatbush. People threw eggs at them from their windows. Our curve has flattened. My son has gotten in before midnight for the last 4 nights in a row after a month of, well, just insanity. Today was the first day we’ve had under 400 deaths this April and our governor is contemplating easing up on the lockdown upstate (where it never got anywhere near as bad as downstate). Downstaters are afraid we’ll be inside out tiny apartments (lucky for me, I live in a -tiny- house) until at the very least, Thanksgiving. But thing are looking much better. For a second there, I was very worried. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=139)