# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2848 "2020-04-29T23:05:58Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Some people are discovering that that the system isn’t that intelligent. If you abbreviate your street address the wrong way (Ave. rather than Ave, for instance), the system won’t recognize you.

I simply cannot get it to recognize my data. The logical method, of typing name and address exactly as they appear on my 2018 return, does not work. Nor does all caps, nor the various permutations (Ave, AVE, Ave., AVE., Avenue, etc.). You only get three tries per day, but I think I’ve exhausted all the permutations. No help on the FAQ page, and no way to contact them. The IRS is always fun!

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2849 "2020-04-29T23:16:29Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I simply cannot get it to recognize my data. The logical method, of typing name and address exactly as they appear on my 2018 return, does not work. Nor does all caps, nor the various permutations (Ave, AVE, Ave., AVE., Avenue, etc.). You only get three tries per day, but I think I’ve exhausted all the permutations. No help on the FAQ page, and no way to contact them. The IRS is always fun!

Try putting in your address on this web site:  
[https://tools.usps.com/zip-code-lookup.htm?byaddress](https://tools.usps.com/zip-code-lookup.htm?byaddress)

And then go back to the IRS web site and try putting in the address the USPS web site gave you.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2850 "2020-04-29T23:18:07Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> Try putting in your address on this web site:  
> [ZIP Code™ Lookup | USPS](https://tools.usps.com/zip-code-lookup.htm?byaddress)
> 
> And then go back to the IRS web site and try putting in the address the USPS web site gave you.

I can’t—I’m in Canada. I suspect that’s more than half the problem. The site SAYS “ZIP or postal code,” but I suspect it means “if you don’t have a ZIP code, you’re SOL, you unAmerican traitor, you.”

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2851 "2020-04-29T23:50:18Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I can’t—I’m in Canada. I suspect that’s more than half the problem. The site SAYS “ZIP or postal code,” but I suspect it means “if you don’t have a ZIP code, you’re SOL, you unAmerican traitor, you.”

Oops. I didn’t look at your location. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2852 "2020-04-29T23:54:16Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> Oops. I didn’t look at your location. Sorry.

No worries: it’s a good suggestion!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2853 "2020-04-30T00:17:46Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I can’t—I’m in Canada. I suspect that’s more than half the problem. The site SAYS “ZIP or postal code,” but I suspect it means “if you don’t have a ZIP code, you’re SOL, you unAmerican traitor, you.”

On the screen where you enter your SSN, DOB, address, etc., next to ZIP code, it says:

> [@](#):
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> (Required, except for countries without ZIP or postal codes)

\<shrug\> Have you tried leaving that line blank?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2854 "2020-04-30T00:29:16Z")

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What worked for me was to look at any piece of official Federal mail. Their version of my correct address is there. And as noted above, “Ave.” is not “Ave”. Nonetheless, shat hath the Eagle, verily and hallelujah. (“Ka-ching” works for coin, what kind of noise does a direct deposit make?)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2855 "2020-04-30T04:56:08Z")

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3,220,847 total cases  
228,239 dead  
1,001,008 recovered

In the US:

1,064,572 total cases  
61,669 dead  
147,411 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 3,138,686 total cases  
> 218,000 dead  
> 956,016 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 1,035,765 total cases  
> 59,266 dead  
> 142,238 recovered

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2856 "2020-04-30T05:19:50Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> (“Ka-ching” works for coin, what kind of noise does a direct deposit make?)

I have 743 things in my living room/kitchen that beep for one reason or another (never mind the horrifying noises that arise in the rest of the house). Every goddam thing beeps. I cannot remember anymore the days that went by without incessant pointless beeping.

So, yeah, “_beep_”.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2857 "2020-04-30T06:11:56Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I can’t—I’m in Canada. I suspect that’s more than half the problem. The site SAYS “ZIP or postal code,” but I suspect it means “if you don’t have a ZIP code, you’re SOL, you unAmerican traitor, you.”

Why would you get a stimulus check if you are Canadian?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2858 "2020-04-30T06:34:08Z")

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Here is a report of transmission via a restaurant:

> [@](#):
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> On January 23, 2020, family A traveled from Wuhan and arrived in Guangzhou. On January 24, the index case-patient (patient A1) ate lunch with 3 other family members (A2–A4) at restaurant X. Two other families, B and C, sat at neighboring tables at the same restaurant. Later that day, patient A1 experienced onset of fever and cough and went to the hospital. By February 5, a total of 9 others (4 members of family A, 3 members of family B, and 2 members of family C) had become ill with COVID-19.
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> The only known source of exposure for the affected persons in families B and C was patient A1 at the restaurant. We determined that virus had been transmitted to \>1 member of family B and \>1 member of family C at the restaurant and that further infections in families B and C resulted from within-family transmission.

> **[COVID-19 Outbreak Associated with Air Conditioning in Restaurant, Guangzhou,...](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article)**
>
> COVID-19 Outbreak Associated with Air Conditioning in Restaurant, Guangzhou, China, 2020

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2859 "2020-04-30T06:48:46Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Why would you get a stimulus check if you are Canadian?

If you think hard about this question, the answer will come to you.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2860 "2020-04-30T06:53:08Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Why would you get a stimulus check if you are Canadian?

He’s an American citizen living in Canada, paying US taxes because he’s an American citizen? Just a guess…

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2861 "2020-04-30T07:04:21Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Why would you get a stimulus check if you are Canadian?

Citizenship is not a prerequisite for the stimulus cheques. Generally speaking, what counts is whether you were a US resident who filed a US tax return for 2018 or 2019. So many people who are or were resident aliens will get the cheques, even if they’ve since left the country.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2862 "2020-04-30T07:10:41Z")

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Canadian who worked in the US.  
Canadian who is married to an American citizen.  
Canadian who is married to a Resident Alien who worked in the US.  
Non-Canadian and Non-US citizen who worked in the US and is now a Landed Alien in Canada.  
Non-Canadian and Non-US citizen who worked in the US and is now married to a Landed Alien in Canada.

Those are just off the top of my head, **DrDeth** , and it took longer to type that than it did for those categories to appear on the top of my head.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2863 "2020-04-30T08:29:21Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Canadian who worked in the US.  
> Canadian who is married to an American citizen.  
> Canadian who is married to a Resident Alien who worked in  
> [ the US.  
> Non-Canadian and Non-US citizen who worked in the US and is now a Landed Alien in Canada.  
> Non-Canadian and Non-US citizen who worked in the US and is now married to a Landed Alien in Canada.
> 
> Those are just off the top of my head, **DrDeth** , and it took longer to type that than it did for those categories to appear on the top of my head.

From [IRS.GOV](http://IRS.GOV)

> [@](#):
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> **U.S. citizens and U.S. resident aliens** will receive the Economic Impact Payment of $1,200 for individual or head of household filers, and $2,400 for married filing jointly if they are not a dependent of another taxpayer and have a work eligible Social Security number with adjusted gross income up to:
> 
> (limits here)

> [@](#):
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> Although some filers, such as high-income filers, will not qualify for an Economic Impact Payment, most will.
> 
> Taxpayers likely won’t qualify for an Economic Impact Payment if any of the following apply:
> 
> (misc. things)  
> **You are a nonresident alien.**

(my bolding)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2864 "2020-04-30T11:34:46Z")

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^I thought my post indicated those folks were resident alien during the time of qualification. Sorry, it didn’t. Thanks for the clarification, especially with posting the info link to the gov.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2865 "2020-04-30T11:50:12Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> What is Trump planning to do if no one is willing to work in such a processing plant?

I’m sure he’ll put his money where his mouth is, don a rubber apron, hairnet, and mask, and put in an eight hour shift at the plant. 😃

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2866 "2020-04-30T12:24:04Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> ^I thought my post indicated those folks were resident alien during the time of qualification. Sorry, it didn’t. Thanks for the clarification, especially with posting the info link to the gov.

It’s not clear if there is a specific “time of qualification” or if they just go by the latest info they have. If you were a resident alien in 2019, but moved away and filed a 2019 tax return from a non-US address, would they take that as an indication that you are no longer a resident alien?

For income, they just went with the most recent tax return they had. In our (my wife’s and mine) case, in 2019 our income was too high to qualify for the stimulus. And we’d already filed our 2019 return in early April. But if we’d delayed filing the 2019 return, the IRS would have used the 2018 return and we’d have received a payment.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/2867 "2020-04-30T14:16:19Z")

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Like I said: it’s not over. In “too much too soon” news: [Surf’s down in California: Governor will close beaches](https://apnews.com/2903c0c62f97116e9ef6f5425ad0a7ac)

> [@](#):
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> Gov. Gavin Newsom will order all beaches and state parks closed starting Friday after people thronged the seashore during a sweltering weekend despite his social distancing order that aims to slow the spread of the coronavirus, according to a memo sent to police chiefs around the state.
> 
> Eric Nuñez, president of the California Police Chiefs Association, said it was sent to the group’s members Wednesday evening so they have time to plan ahead of Newsom’s expected announcement Thursday.

In “wait… what?” news:

> [@](#):
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> On Wednesday, six San Francisco Bay Area counties that imposed the first broad stay-at-home orders in California because of the coronavirus loosened them slightly to allow for landscaping, construction and other outdoor businesses, such as flea markets and nurseries, so long as social distancing is maintained.
> 
> And in what could be a critical addition for many parents, it specifies that summer camps are allowed, but only if kids stay in small groups and their parents are considered to hold essential jobs under the state order, such as health care workers.

Sure: flea markets sound like places where people can & will keep their distance from each other. Summer camps, too. :rolleyes:

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