# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3048 "2020-05-09T17:11:04Z")

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[Court halts ban on mass gatherings at Kentucky churches](https://apnews.com/69e7b2d61395e8c855274d036a5b077c)

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> A federal court halted the Kentucky governor’s temporary ban on mass gatherings from applying to in-person religious services, clearing the way for Sunday church services.
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> U.S. District Judge Gregory F. Van Tatenhove on Friday issued a temporary restraining order enjoining Gov. Andy Beshear’s administration from enforcing the ban on mass gatherings at “any in-person religious service which adheres to applicable social distancing and hygiene guidelines.”
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> The ruling from the Eastern District of Kentucky sided with the Tabernacle Baptist Church in Nicholasville, but applies to all places of worship around the commonwealth. Two other federal judges, including U.S. District Judge David Hale, had previously ruled the ban was constitutional. But also on Friday, Hale, of Kentucky’s western district, granted Maryville Baptist Church an injunction allowing in-person services at that specific church, provided it abide by public health requirements.

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**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3049 "2020-05-09T19:34:45Z")

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In Norway the schedule for reopening is going to be removing limitations at two week intervals until we are back to normal on the 15th of June. Foreign travel excepted, and if the reproduction number spikes over one, we go back.

Still it is good to have normality in sight. Turns out social distancing and lockdown is like a diet, the more you cheat the longer it lasts.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3050 "2020-05-09T20:07:07Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Court halts ban on mass gatherings at Kentucky churches](https://apnews.com/69e7b2d61395e8c855274d036a5b077c)

How many Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul supporters will vanish from the voting rolls? Is that the court’s insidious, nefarious plan?

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3051 "2020-05-09T20:08:43Z")

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Today in Austria:

[ul]

[li] The **number of new and existing infections continues to fall**. The state of Tyrol, once the coronavirus hotspot of Austria, now has fewer than 100 active infections, and the state of Vorarlberg, for the second Saturday in a row, has reported no new infections at all.[/li][li] A new poll shows that 65% of Austrians are in favour of higher **unemployment benefits** during the coronavirus crisis. The country’s largest opposition party, the Social-Democratic Party, has asked the government to increase unemployment payments from 55% to 70% of the worker’s former net income.[/li][li] Current statistics: 15,756 confirmed infections, 615 deaths, 13,928 recovered.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3052 "2020-05-09T20:35:48Z")

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Well, here in Panama I finally managed to get a six-pack of beer delivered today after they lifted the “dry law” yesterday after about six weeks prohibiting the sale of all alcohol. But yesterday only women were allowed to go shopping, so I couldn’t go, and today there was total quarantine, so nobody could go to the store. Fortunately the local supermarket was still doing deliveries.

Apparently the beer and liquor companies managed to get the law relaxed slightly, although you can’t buy more than one six-pack or one bottle of wine or liquor a day, and you have to consume it at home. But even so, some mayors are agitating to re-impose it. The concern is that if people have alcohol available, they’ll get together to party.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3054 "2020-05-09T22:07:59Z")

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Build a little still? Applejack? Prison hooch?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3055 "2020-05-09T22:44:34Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> Build a little still? Applejack? Prison hooch?

So far I’m still good on hard liquor. It’s the beer I was missing. But I’ve been getting a lot more vitamin C from drinking more margaritas, caipirinhas, and rum sours. 😃

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3056 "2020-05-10T02:21:42Z")

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Three new cases reported in Hawaii today. A bit of a disappointment after yesterday’s zero cases, the first time that had happened in eight weeks. Total is 631 cases and 17 deaths.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3057 "2020-05-10T02:59:55Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Well, here in Panama I finally managed to get a six-pack of beer delivered today after they lifted the “dry law” yesterday after about six weeks prohibiting the sale of all alcohol. But yesterday only women were allowed to go shopping, so I couldn’t go, and today there was total quarantine, so nobody could go to the store.

[While in Saskatchewan:](https://leaderpost.com/news/saskatchewan/the-crisis-in-numbers-how-covid-19-has-reshaped-saskatchewan/)

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> **Alcohol wholesale volumes up 22 per cent, then fall back to normal**
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> Retailers bought more alcohol from the Saskatchewan Liquor and Gaming Authority (SLGA) last month, just as the government began tightening pandemic restrictions.
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> Wholesale sales volumes were up 22 per cent over March 15 to 28, compared to the same period in 2019. SLGA spokesman David Morris said the additional demand “was likely the result of retailers stocking-up as restrictions related to COVID-19 took effect.”
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> But the jump didn’t last. Wholesale volumes were back to normal for the first two weeks of April. SLGA did notice a very slight uptick last week, however, with volumes out of its distribution centre up three per cent. The numbers do not include Brewer’s Distributors Ltd.
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> It’s unclear how much more alcohol consumers actually purchased, since province-wide retail numbers were not available.

The liquor stores haven’t closed down, just instituted social distancing, and seem to be doing well, any time I’ve been in them.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3058 "2020-05-10T03:01:09Z")

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Three members of the US coronavirus task force, Doctor Fauci, Robert Redfield, and Stephen Hahn, are self quarantining after coming in contact with a person who has the virus.  
[https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Coronavirus-strikes-staffers-inside-the-White-15258425](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Coronavirus-strikes-staffers-inside-the-White-15258425).

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3059 "2020-05-10T03:07:19Z")

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_Oops. Political. Wrong forum._

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3060 "2020-05-10T04:05:23Z")

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4,101,772 total cases  
280,443 dead  
1,441,791 recovered

In the US:

1,347,309 total cases  
80,037 dead  
238,078 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 4,013,896 total cases  
> 276,235 dead  
> 1,385,412 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 1,321,785 total cases  
> 78,615 dead  
> 223,603 recovered

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3061 "2020-05-10T04:23:11Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Three members of the US coronavirus task force, Doctor Fauci, Robert Redfield, and Stephen Hahn, are self quarantining after coming in contact with a person who has the virus.  
> [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Coronavirus-strikes-staffers-inside-the-White-15258425](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Coronavirus-strikes-staffers-inside-the-White-15258425).

Oops. Dead link. (Story so hot they had to pull it already?)

Anyway, here’s the story at Rolling Stone:

[Dr. Anthony Fauci, CDC Director and FDA Chief All in Self-Isolation](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fauci-cdc-director-fda-chief-self-isolation-quarantine-996979/), Peter Wade, _Rolling Stone_, May 9, 2020.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3062 "2020-05-10T06:39:16Z")

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The AP has it as well: [White House Virus Task Force members face quarantine](https://apnews.com/6e683d94fb99e0f66a12b8446f4b62ad).

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3063 "2020-05-10T07:19:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Three members of the US coronavirus task force, Doctor Fauci, Robert Redfield, and Stephen Hahn, are self quarantining after coming in contact with a person who has the virus.  
> [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Coronavirus-strikes-staffers-inside-the-White-15258425](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Coronavirus-strikes-staffers-inside-the-White-15258425).

Great. Aren’t those, like, the _competent_ government people in this crisis…?

I will be SO mad if it turns out Trump is the asymptomatic carrier making everyone else sick…

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3064 "2020-05-10T15:58:08Z")

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> [@RioRico](#):
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> WH staff have probably been brainstorming (ha!) that scenario for a while. Expect vivid PR campaigns assigning blame and proclaiming a glorious future for America once its enemies (foreign, domestic, and microbial) are defeated by task forces of The Best People. Tweetstorms will swirl from Bethesda, then diminish. Friendly “news” sites will stream anxious updates. Fingernails will be chewed to the quick. Rumors will leak. The show will proceed, as it must.

**Moderator Warning**

**RioRico** , you’ve been warned repeatedly to refrain from political commentary in this forum. This is an official warning. Your posting privileges will be under discussion.

Colibri  
Quarantine Zone Moderator

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3065 "2020-05-10T19:41:06Z")

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Today in Austria:

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[li] As of tomorrow **prison visits** will be once again permitted. The visiting areas have been equipped with plexiglass screens, and prisoners and visitors will be required to wear face coverings.[/li][li] Peter Kolba, an Austrian jurist, is preparing a **class action suit over the government’s handling of the Ischgl incident** , where thousands of holidaymakers from around the world were infected. So far 5384 people have registered with Kolba. A [world map of Ischgl infections](https://twitter.com/chris_hiptmayr/status/1259379683109584896) has been posted on Twitter.[/li][li] Current statistics: 15,786 confirmed infections, 618 deaths, 13,991 recovered. There are currently 1177 people with active confirmed infections, of which 291 are in hospital, and of those 72 are in intensive care. (A further 1035 intensive care beds remain available.) Several states are reporting no new infections today.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3066 "2020-05-10T21:48:28Z")

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[People with coronavirus are dying 10 years earlier than they would otherwise](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/people-coronavirus-dying-10-years-earlier-naturally-study/story?id=70511494)

Note: The headline says “naturally” instead of “otherwise”. I think the latter is more appropriate since the virus is 100% natural, as far as we know.

I think a lot of people have convinced themselves that only very frail elderly people are dying from this thing. But every day I hear about people who are in the prime of their life being taken out. Like this [guy](https://www.kcra.com/article/23-year-old-father-who-died-of-covid-19-was-discharged-from-hospital-twice-family-says/32426577) and this [guy](https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/04/14/24-year-old-michigan-man-dies-from-covid-19-father-diagnosed-days-later/). They might not make up a huge proportion of COVID-19 deaths, but you gotta wonder what the death count of younguns is going to look like by the end of the year. As we lighten up the restrictions and try to go back to “normal”, I wonder how the average years of life lost due to COVID will change. Will it always be 10 years or could it expand as more and more people get sick?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3067 "2020-05-10T22:45:15Z")

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OTOH [one third](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/09/us/coronavirus-cases-nursing-homes-us.html) of all U.S. COVID-19 deaths are nursing home related.

Putting more of our energy focused on doing a better job protecting them would have the biggest impact. Seeing people on the street walking around in N95s while this carnage is ongoing to no small measure because of staff and residents without adequate testing, without enough PPE and/or without adequate instruction and guidance on using it, is untenable. But that is what we currently have.

How to navigate through to protect as many of us all as we can as best we can over the long haul of both the disease and the impacts of both it and the responses to it, is a vital question, one that is trying to be answered with still insufficient information to really do more than guess.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3068 "2020-05-10T23:17:08Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> OTOH [one third](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/09/us/coronavirus-cases-nursing-homes-us.html) of all U.S. COVID-19 deaths are nursing home related.

The accuracy of this percentage is questionable. According to this article, only 9% of deaths in New Hampshire were in nursing homes. Local news puts the figure at [80%](https://www.concordmonitor.com/covid-coronavirus-nh-new-hampshire-34214159). Or, perhaps it’s just that the figures in the NY Times article are wildly out of date - they also say there have only been 12 deaths in New Hampshire: there have been 133.

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