# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3069 "2020-05-11T02:03:30Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> I will be SO mad if it turns out Trump is the asymptomatic carrier making everyone else sick…

asymptomatic [does not mean “safe”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/10/coronavirus-attacks-body-symptoms/)

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3070 "2020-05-11T02:18:01Z")

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According to the Worldmeter site, US deaths per day have declined.

10 May 750

9 May 1,422

8 May 1,687

7 May 2,129  
This means 10 May was our first under-1,000 day in more than a month. I suppose such a large decline might be some sort of fluke, but we can hope for the best.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3071 "2020-05-11T02:53:48Z")

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New York saw its first sub-100 day in quite a long time.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3072 "2020-05-11T02:56:25Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> According to the Worldmeter site, US deaths per day have declined.
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> 10 May 750
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> 9 May 1,422
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> 8 May 1,687
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> 7 May 2,129  
> This means 10 May was our first under-1,000 day in more than a month. I suppose such a large decline might be some sort of fluke, but we can hope for the best.

Reporting has often declined on weekends as cases/deaths aren’t tallied and are reported later.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3073 "2020-05-11T04:19:56Z")

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4,181,007 total cases  
283,868 dead  
1,493,401 recovered

In the US:

1,367,638 total cases  
80,787 dead  
256,336 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 4,101,772 total cases  
> 280,443 dead  
> 1,441,791 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 1,347,309 total cases  
> 80,037 dead  
> 238,078 recovered

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3074 "2020-05-11T12:27:41Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> According to the Worldmeter site, US deaths per day have declined.
> 
> 10 May 750
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> 9 May 1,422
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> 8 May 1,687
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> 7 May 2,129  
> This means 10 May was our first under-1,000 day in more than a month. I suppose such a large decline might be some sort of fluke, but we can hope for the best.

There is a weekly cycle with respect to deaths being recorded and made available to the general public (including sites like Worldometer). But this is low even keeping that in mind.

U.S. coronavirus deaths had already been declining for the past few weeks (peak, AFAICT, was the week of April 15-21). That’s the good news. The more concerning news is that the vast majority of the decline has taken place in NY and NJ alone; deaths in the rest of the country have declined only slightly over this time.

Here in Maryland, for instance, covid-19 deaths are running about 350-370 per week (I recommend looking at weekly averages due to reporting issues) without any increase or decline that I can see over the past few weeks.

I expect covid-19 fatalities will hit 100,000 before Memorial Day, and will exceed WWI deaths before July 4. The 100,000th death ought to win a free funeral or something. ☹

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3075 "2020-05-11T13:31:45Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> {…} The 100,000th death ought to win a free funeral or something. ☹

I was expecting it to be the Presidential Medal of FREEDOM!!1!

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3076 "2020-05-11T13:59:11Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I was expecting it to be the Presidential Medal of FREEDOM!!1!
> 
> CMC fnord!

**Moderator Note**

Keep the political cracks out of this forum.

Colibri  
QZ Moderator

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3077 "2020-05-11T14:43:57Z")

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Peter Piot, one of the discoverers of the Ebola virus way back in 1976, [said this in a recent interview](https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/finally-virus-got-me-scientist-who-fought-ebola-and-hiv-reflects-facing-death-covid-19?):

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> Let’s be clear: Without a coronavirus vaccine, we will never be able to live normally again. The only real exit strategy from this crisis is a vaccine that can be rolled out worldwide.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3078 "2020-05-11T16:54:32Z")

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People keep saying this. Well, it’s reality, and people will eventually shrug and go back to the way they were before.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3079 "2020-05-11T17:39:40Z")

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If by “before” you mean the world before antibiotics and vaccines, say, pre-1850, when outbreaks and epidemics were regular features of life then yes.

“Before” meaning 2010, no.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3080 "2020-05-11T18:01:00Z")

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[ICE is planning to stick COVID-positive immigrants on passenger planes and ship the to Haiti.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ice-deportations-haiti-covid-19_n_5eb86e11c5b6d34558aec139?utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&section=politics&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=main_fb&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&fbclid=IwAR35weiMBFffgoQXrY3agLcAXSo2EMqaAfGeUIzHSuGbWFOUH-l5v6tvWCE)

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> The U.S. plans to deport Haitians on Monday who say they have tested positive for COVID-19 ― a move that would put both fellow airline passengers and people in their homeland at risk.  
> A manifest for the scheduled deportation flight, obtained by HuffPost, shows 100 passengers. Two of those listed, Stephane Etienne and Mackendy Calice, confirmed to HuffPost that they have tested positive for the coronavirus, and three others listed on the manifest also have tested positive, according to U.S.-based human rights group the Institute for Justice and Democracy In Haiti.

Haiti should refuse all flights from the U.S. until a stop is put to this.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3081 "2020-05-11T18:11:07Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [ICE is planning to stick COVID-positive immigrants on passenger planes and ship the to Haiti.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ice-deportations-haiti-covid-19_n_5eb86e11c5b6d34558aec139?utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&section=politics&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=main_fb&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&fbclid=IwAR35weiMBFffgoQXrY3agLcAXSo2EMqaAfGeUIzHSuGbWFOUH-l5v6tvWCE)
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> Haiti should refuse all flights from the U.S. until a stop is put to this.

It’s becoming more and more clear that enough Americans won’t comply with mask or social distancing, so each person needs to take appropriate precautions to stay safe. We should just assume that all public indoor air is contaminated, every surface is contaminated, and that every mask people wear is made of poor materials with a poor fit and isn’t filtering anything. With the long pre-symptomatic period, you can’t be sure who is and isn’t shedding virus anyway. Regardless of whether the plane is full of deathly ill patients coughing and sneezing, or full of medical doctors wearing hazmat suits, you should take the same precautions to keep yourself safe.

Basically, assume each and every person is actively shedding virus and you personally do everything you need to do to stay safe. Do not count on anyone else taking precautions, because it’s clear that the general public is not taking this seriously. Assuming that other people will take appropriate precautions is giving people a false sense of security.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3082 "2020-05-11T19:51:25Z")

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Researchers are investigating the use of llama cells in fighting coronavirus. (PDF)

> **[S0092-8674(20)30494-3.pdf](https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)30494-3.pdf)**
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> 7.86 MB

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3083 "2020-05-11T20:08:38Z")

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Where’s Kuzco?!

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3084 "2020-05-11T20:29:14Z")

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Today in Austria:

[ul]

[li] **Drive-in movie theatres** are exceedingly rare in Austria, but due to the pandemic a new one will be temporarily opened at the Salzburg airport. The cinema will operate for 95 days from 28 May to 30 August, showing a feature film or a live concert every night at 21:00 for occupants of up to 330 vehicles.[/li][li] Today the chancellor reported that the previously announced **financial aid for the restaurant industry** will take the form of €500 million in tax relief. The most significant of the measures is that taxes on nonalcoholic drinks will be lowered from 20% to 10%; establishments are expected to pocket the difference rather than passing the savings on to customers.[/li][li] Last week a lane of one of Vienna’s main roads was converted into a **bike lane** in a bid to encourage more socially distant commuting. But today someone—perhaps a disgruntled motorist—strewed thumbtacks over it, damaging the tires of several unsuspecting cyclists. Police are investigating. The bike lane is supposed to remain in place until at least the end of August.[/li][li] Current statistics: 15,845 confirmed infections, 620 deaths, 14,061 recovered.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3085 "2020-05-11T20:53:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Researchers are investigating the use of llama cells in fighting coronavirus. (PDF)  
> [https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)30494-3.pdf](https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)30494-3.pdf)

Where do I donate? And can I please take a magazine into the room with me?

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3086 "2020-05-11T21:20:39Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> Basically, assume each and every person is actively shedding virus and you personally do everything you need to do to stay safe. Do not count on anyone else taking precautions, because it’s clear that the general public is not taking this seriously. Assuming that other people will take appropriate precautions is giving people a false sense of security.

I agree with you 100%. I can’t say I’m sorry to see the dumbfucks selecting themselves out of the gene pool, but it infuriates me that they’re taking so many of us\* down with them.

(\* People who aren’t dullards)

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3087 "2020-05-11T21:31:46Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> It’s becoming more and more clear that enough Americans won’t comply with mask or social distancing, so each person needs to take appropriate precautions to stay safe. We should just assume that all public indoor air is contaminated, every surface is contaminated, and that every mask people wear is made of poor materials with a poor fit and isn’t filtering anything.  
> \<snip\>  
> Basically, assume each and every person is actively shedding virus and you personally do everything you need to do to stay safe. Do not count on anyone else taking precautions, because it’s clear that the general public is not taking this seriously. Assuming that other people will take appropriate precautions is giving people a false sense of security.

Basically the US has become a concealed-carry nation where we MUST assume all others are armed and if they make a suspicious move then we’d better shoot first; failure to do so is suicidal.

Now we MUST assume all others are contagious and if they make a suspicious move (like exhaling) then… then what? Do we wear respirator masks with air tanks when in public? Do we carry sharp sticks to keep others at a safe distance? How do we act rationally when surrounded by shedders? Just stay home? We do that now. It’s like WAR GAMES: “The only way to win is not to play.” But we can’t stop. What a pickle!

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Researchers are investigating the use of llama cells in fighting coronavirus. (PDF)  
> [https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)30494-3.pdf](https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)30494-3.pdf)

At first I read it as **lama cells** and I wondered about the Buddhist connexion. Lama cells. Llama cells. Lllama cells. Tony Lama cells. Try everything!

But beware. I foresee a spike in llama-napping. Rustlers for health! Or will llamas be found dead on the pampas, drained of precious bodily fluids? Will llama bestiality surge? No, seriously – llamaseries had better beef-up security; electrify fences; fly surveillance drones; and fit every beast with a GPS-tracking collar. It’s only prudent.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3088 "2020-05-11T22:12:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The F.B.I. and the Department of Homeland Security are preparing to issue a warning that China’s most skilled hackers and spies are working to steal American research in the crash effort to develop vaccines and treatments for the coronavirus.
> 
> A draft of the forthcoming public warning, which officials say is likely to be issued in the days to come, says China is seeking “valuable intellectual property and public health data through illicit means related to vaccines, treatments and testing.”
> 
> It focuses on cybertheft and action by “nontraditional actors,” a euphemism for researchers and students the Trump administration says are being activated to steal data from inside academic and private laboratories.

> **[Boris Johnson Announces a Coronavirus Quarantine for Travelers to U.K.: Live...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/world/coronavirus-live-world-news-tracker.html)**
>
> Coronavirus cases soar past 4 million as China finds a new cluster near Russia. Ethiopian troops may have shot down an aid plane in Somalia.

In most of the rest of the world the goal is to share any information to help fight this catastrophe. The U.S. has the contrary view–keep the information proprietary and make money off of it.

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