# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 162
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3231 "2020-05-19T21:27:05Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I still think part of it is how strong the immunity system gets to be by living in the 3rd world. Your immune system isn’t a muscle that you make stronger by working out every day. If it encounters a germ, you might gain immunity. If it doesn’t, you won’t. If immune systems working out a lot helped you avoid infection, people with seasonal allergies would kick the shit out of COVID-19. After all, their immune systems work out harder than John Cena. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3232 "2020-05-19T21:35:06Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Your immune system isn’t a muscle that you make stronger by working out every day. If it encounters a germ, you might gain immunity. If it doesn’t, you won’t. > > If immune systems working out a lot helped you avoid infection, people with seasonal allergies would kick the shit out of COVID-19. After all, their immune systems work out harder than John Cena. I thought the immune system provoking allergies was because it wasnt being challenged by the local environment?? > **[An Evolutionary Basis for Allergies](https://www.the-scientist.com/an-evolutionary-basis-for-allergies-34596)** > > Some proteins found in parasitic worms bear similarity to those from environmental allergens and cause a similar immune response in humans. > [@](#): > > The “hygiene hypothesis” proposes that allergic reactions—in which the immune system misfires on innocuous environmental triggers like pollen or peanuts—are driven by a lack of exposure to parasites or other pathogens. In the absence of these true illness-causing agents, the immune system accidentally attacks similar-looking, harmless compounds in the environment with molecules called immunoglobulin E (IgE) antibodies. Data published today (October 29) in PLOS Computational Biology by a team of researchers in the U.K. help to substantiate that hypothesis. > > “It will change how we think about allergens,” said Padraic Fallon, an immunologist at Trinity College, Dublin. “It puts the science behind what we thought might be happening. They’ve elegantly dissected this fundamental question: ‘What is an allergen?’” ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3233 "2020-05-19T21:50:11Z")
[Notre Dame University](https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-to-begin-fall-semester-on-campus-the-week-of-aug-10/) will have an interesting schedule. It will start early, have no breaks, and end by November. Hopefully when a new spike will occur. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3234 "2020-05-19T21:56:19Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > [Notre Dame University](https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-to-begin-fall-semester-on-campus-the-week-of-aug-10/) will have an interesting schedule. It will start early, have no breaks, and end by November. Hopefully when a new spike will occur. Huh—you are hoping that a new spike in cases will appear in November? Or do you mean “hopefully before any new spike occurs”? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3235 "2020-05-19T21:57:20Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > [Notre Dame University](https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-to-begin-fall-semester-on-campus-the-week-of-aug-10/) will have an interesting schedule. It will start early, have no breaks, and end by November. Hopefully when a new spike will occur. I was just on a conference call with a colleague, who has two daughters in college. She said that both of her daughters just learned that their schools were going to be on that sort of schedule this fall. (We’re in Chicago, so it’s entirely possible that one of her daughters does, indeed, go to Notre Dame.) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3236 "2020-05-20T04:33:57Z")
4,988,994 total cases 324,958 dead 1,959,149 recovered In the US: 1,570,583 total cases 93,533 dead 361,180 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 4,894,098 total cases > 320,180 dead > 1,908,064 recovered > > In the US: > > 1,550,294 total cases > 91,981 dead > 356,383 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3237 "2020-05-20T04:46:20Z")
[A Chinese city, Shulan, has suddenly been placed on lockdown amid fears of a new Covid outbreak.](https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/19/china-puts-city-wuhan-style-lockdown-new-coronavirus-cases-12729411/) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3238 "2020-05-20T06:09:05Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Your immune system isn’t a muscle that you make stronger by working out every day. If it encounters a germ, you might gain immunity. If it doesn’t, you won’t. > > If immune systems working out a lot helped you avoid infection, people with seasonal allergies would kick the shit out of COVID-19. After all, their immune systems work out harder than John Cena. The flaw in that premise is the theory about why the “Spanish Flu” was so bad. I mean, hygiene was nowhere near modern standards a hundred years ago, so everybody should have had good immunity muscle. It is thought that the “Spanish Flu” was so deadly because it generated a “cytokine storm”, which occurs when the immune system goes ape with the antibodies. The blood/lymph systems have a finite space, much of which is used for metabolic stuff (oxygen, sugar, nutrients, booze and waste) and if you try to squeeze too many Y-shaped thingies in there, you end up with sludge that cannot move what needs to be moved to keep the working parts working. Thus, there is a limit to how much we can fight off and how hard we can do it. It seems like it can take only a tiny nudge, sometimes, to hit that limit and go over. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3239 "2020-05-20T08:05:35Z")
Taiwan’s Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) on Wednesday (May 20) announced zero new cases of Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19), marking the 13th straight day without an imported case and 38 days without a new local infection. The CECC announced that they received 224 reports of people with suspected symptoms on Tuesday (May 19). Since the outbreak began, Taiwan has carried out 69,876 COVID-19 tests, with 68,824 coming back negative. Taiwan has now extended its streak of no new local infections to 38 days. Out of 440 total confirmed cases, 349 were imported, 55 were local, and 36 came from the Navy’s “Goodwill Fleet.” Up until now, only seven patients have succumbed to the disease, while 402 have been released from hospital isolation. This leaves only 31 patients still undergoing treatment for COVID-19 in Taiwan. Other news: The suspension of all outbound and inbound tours imposed on Taiwanese travel agencies will be further extended until the end of June, as the COVID-19 pandemic continues to spread across the world, the Tourism Bureau said Tuesday. The ban, which began on March 19, was originally scheduled to last until the end of April. It was then extended until May 31. The further extension of the ban by one month is due to the still grave COVID-19 pandemic worldwide, the Tourism Bureau said. Although Taiwan has seen no new COVID-19 cases for 12 consecutive days, the disease has infected more than 4.8 million people globally, and the death toll has surpassed 317,000. ---
**Author:** ![MaverocK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@MaverocK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaverocK)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3240 "2020-05-20T09:57:34Z")
Why is no one talking about Iran? They seem to be experiencing the second wave. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3241 "2020-05-20T11:06:01Z")
I found this: I imagine that most news services are too taken up with their own tragedies. It is NOT a competitive sport. > [@](#): > > JEDDAH/TEHRAN: Health chiefs in Iran warned on Sunday of a lethal “second wave” of coronavirus infections amid fears that lockdown restrictions have been eased too soon. > > Current preventive measures cannot contain the spread of COVID-19 in Tehran, said virus task force member Ali Maher. “With businesses reopening, people have forgotten about the protocols. Maybe it was too soon.” > > [https://www.arabnews.com/node/1672551/middle-east](https://www.arabnews.com/node/1672551/middle-east) ---
**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3242 "2020-05-20T11:13:37Z")
[A little funny, but demonstrates how seriously India has taken this pandemic and the nationwide lockdown.](https://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/report-ghost-in-odisha-village-warns-locals-to-stay-at-home-amid-lockdown-2824343) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3243 "2020-05-20T13:30:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The flaw in that premise is the theory about why the “Spanish Flu” was so bad. I mean, hygiene was nowhere near modern standards a hundred years ago, so everybody should have had good immunity muscle. > > It is thought that the “Spanish Flu” was so deadly because it generated a “cytokine storm”, which occurs when the immune system goes ape with the antibodies. The blood/lymph systems have a finite space, much of which is used for metabolic stuff (oxygen, sugar, nutrients, booze and waste) and if you try to squeeze too many Y-shaped thingies in there, you end up with sludge that cannot move what needs to be moved to keep the working parts working. > > Thus, there is a limit to how much we can fight off and how hard we can do it. It seems like it can take only a tiny nudge, sometimes, to hit that limit and go over. I like the way you explain science. If you had been my high school science teacher, I might have enjoyed it. And learned something. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3244 "2020-05-20T18:43:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > .. > > It is thought that the “Spanish Flu” was so deadly because it generated a “cytokine storm”, which occurs when the immune system goes ape with the antibodies. … One Interesting theory as to why so many young and healthy people died is that Aspirin was new and people were taking like a whole bottle to stop the flu. In other words- the aspirin killed them, not the flu. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3245 "2020-05-20T21:30:42Z")
Today in Austria: [ul] [li] Vienna’s Tourist Association reports that **overnight stays** in April were down by 98.2%.[/li][li] The Austrian Chamber of Labour has secured for its members (i.e., all three million employees in the country) a **€10 million hardship fund** for emergency loans. (Many members have had their salaries placed on hold while the government processes their employers’ furlough applications.)[/li][li] On my way home from work today, while passing the imperial palace, I encountered another **anti-lockdown protest** , this time organized by the country’s far-right Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ). There were about 500 people in attendance; immediately next to this protest, and separated by a double line of police officers, was a slightly smaller anti-fascist protest organized by various far-left groups.[/li] People at the FPÖ protest were carrying signs and shouting slogans like “Stop the corona madness!”, “Protect your homeland, not your nose and mouth!”, and “Get rid of the masks!” Hardly any of the protesters were wearing masks anyway. (Incidentally, the FPÖ are the same folks that fought tooth and nail against the smoking ban in restaurants, which was finally implemented in 2019, and who are now campaigning to repeal it.) Later on the news I saw some interviews with the protesters in the crowd, who variously claimed that the lockdown measures are too extreme (even in their current, much relaxed form), that the virus is not particularly dangerous, that the pandemic is a fiction invented by the big American banks as an excuse to rob the public of their money, and that the protesters are by no means tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy theorists. [li] Current statistics: 16,295 confirmed infections, 633 deaths, 14,882 recovered.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3246 "2020-05-20T22:27:59Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Their largest city, Reykjavik, has a population of about 131,000 people. By the standards of many continents that’s a _small_ city. The greater “metropolitan” region around it is about 223,000 people - which by many standards is _still_ a small city. > > Reykjavik’s population density is 472/km2. Compared to, say, New York City at 27,750/km2. The fact that there are more densely populated cities than the nation of Iceland does not actually indicate that Icelands population is not densely concentrated. New York may have been harder hit than most places due to population density. That does not actually mean that Icelands population density was a factor in its favor. It is possible not to be as dense as the densest cities on the planet and still be densely populated. > [@psychonaut](#): > > But this “concentration” is still very small, on the order of a couple hundred thousand. Still nothing I would describe as a “major city”. I’ve visited Iceland three or four times, in both summer and winter, both as a tourist and on business. I can attest that it is more than possible to go about daily life there, including using public transport and going shopping, without encountering large numbers of people in enclosed spaces. That’s something I haven’t been able to do in Vienna (which isn’t even in the top 20 cities by population in the EU), even now that all the tourists are gone. (We get about 15 million tourist overnight stays per year.) I think you may be confusing population size with population density, and its effects on epidemic disease. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Except… that their “dense” is not very dense by the standards of most nations. Or did you completely ignore the point I made about that? And being an island is somewhat an advantage IF you close the borders soon enough. The downside being getting supplies from elsewhere - I’m assuming Iceland is not independently able to feed itself without imports because that’s the case with most islands these days, but I could be wrong on that. > > They have a huge fishing industry but it may be seasonal. However, I believe they started out with a very high percentage of the population infected compared to other nations. The ability to close your borders does you little good when you have the largest percentage of infected. (It is very good for any neighbors you might hav. Swedens attitude to closed borders compared to its neighbors is interesting as an example). > > Iceland has had epidemics before, this one is not nearly as devastating to their population as past outbreaks of things like smallpox or measles. No? Nor is it as lethal as the bubonic plague. Not sure how that affects the issue at hand. > [@Broomstick](#): > > I’ll also point out that one reason so many people in Iceland live in/near Reykjavik is because so much of the rest of the place is either ice or volcanoes. Quite a bit of the island is not really suitable to human habitation. But that doesn’t mean their densest city is very dense by global standards. As I said, both by population and density on most continents Reykjavik would be a _small_ city, and not that densely populated even if the greater “urban” area contains 2/3 of the island’s population. I am not sure what the relevance is. Yes, most of Iceland is pretty empty. Thats why the areas where everyone lives are densely populated. Yes, its a small city by global standards. The virus does not really care, it’ll do the same harm percentagewise in 1000 people as it would in 10 000 000. > [@DSeid](#): > > To put some numbers to it. > > Reykjavik’s [population density](https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/reykjavik-population/) and that of the capital area. Bolding mine. > > In context the [densest](http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/largest-cities-density-125.html) city is Mumbai at 29,650 per square kilometer but they are the outlier. London 5100. NYC 2050 (surprised me not more). Las Vegas 1750. Chicago 1500. Akron 700. You got to get down to Huntsville Alabama to get to 500 and Winston/Salem to get to the 450 of the city itself. > > **Broomstick** ’s point is well made. One of my sons lives in Huntsville. “Rocket City.” A dense urban environment it aint. But more than Reykjavik is! I am not sure if you realize that you are comparing the population density of a _ **country** _ to that of a \*\*\*city \*\*\*and saying the country has an “extremely low population density” because its population density is not tha high for a city. If two-thirds of the US lived in an conurbation with the density of Huntsville, would you refer to it as “low density”? The population density of Lombardy is 420 ppl/sq km. Grand Est seems to be the worst hit part of France. Its 97 ppl/sq km. At a glance, it seems Castille La Mancha was the hardest hit in Spain, their population density is 26 ppl/sq km. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3247 "2020-05-20T23:07:11Z")
Density - people per unit of area - very much affects how epidemic diseases behave. Yes, Iceland’s Reykjavik is the densest city on the island but in absolute terms it’s far from what most people think of as “very dense”. The denser the population the more transmission and higher infection rates. This involves absolute numbers and not relative density. I’m not sure why you don’t understand that. It is also true that it’s not the only factor at work - low density populations can be heavily impacted, and high density populations that can stop transmission can be less affected (islands that can impose effective quarantine quickly, or not, being examples of both). ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3248 "2020-05-20T23:30:51Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Density - people per unit of area - very much affects how epidemic diseases behave. Yes, Iceland’s Reykjavik is the densest city on the island but in absolute terms it’s far from what most people think of as “very dense”. The denser the population the more transmission and higher infection rates. This involves absolute numbers and not relative density. > > I’m not sure why you don’t understand that. > > It is also true that it’s not the only factor at work - low density populations can be heavily impacted, and high density populations that can stop transmission can be less affected (islands that can impose effective quarantine quickly, or not, being examples of both). I am trying to say that density very much affects how epidemic diseases behave. I am glad you got that bit. Absolute number of the population less so. I am also glad you seem to have understood that population density enables disease transmission and can increase infection rates. I am less impressed with the “I’m not sure why you don’t understand that.” as I have been trying to explain this to you for several posts. I am also trying to say that Iceland is not at all “extremely low population density” in any way that affects how epidemic diseases behaves or impact the population. They are absolutely the opposite. There is a reason why Iceland is listed among the most urbanized nations on earth. There is also a reason why they rank among nations that are basically cities only on such lists. It is the same reason why you use cities as examples when trying to illustrate the density of most of the population. That reason is that the population of the nation Iceland mostly live in a density that is equivalent to cities not nations. And this is **not** an advantage when it comes to epidemic disease. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3249 "2020-05-20T23:58:32Z")
> [@MaverocK](#): > > Why is no one talking about Iran? They seem to be experiencing the second wave. Yeah. That doesn’t look good. Lots of data here and many ways to map/graph it. From Country, down to US County. [http://ncov.bii.virginia.edu/dashboard/](http://ncov.bii.virginia.edu/dashboard/) You’ll need to play with a bit to see just how much info is there. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3250 "2020-05-21T01:06:04Z")
Don’t know if this has been posted before (and it’s not exactly new news,) but far from costing lives, the coronavirus [may have in fact actually result in a net gain of over 70,000 lives saved in China.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/03/16/coronavirus-lockdown-may-have-saved-77000-lives-in-china-just-from-pollution-reduction/#77611ff834fe) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=161) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=163)