# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 171
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3411 "2020-06-04T05:35:10Z")
[Wuhan tests 10 million people, finds few virus infections](https://apnews.com/70fd3d4ecbb5882ca0ddd50f4f7532ca) > [@](#): > > The Chinese city of Wuhan, where the coronavirus was first detected late last year, has tested nearly 10 million people in an unprecedented 19-day campaign to check an entire city. > > It identified just 300 positive cases, all of whom had no symptoms. The city found no infections among 1,174 close contacts of the people who tested positive, suggesting they were not spreading the virus easily to others. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3412 "2020-06-04T06:34:05Z")
> [@](#): > > It identified just 300 positive cases, all of whom had no symptoms. The city found no infections among 1,174 close contacts of the people who tested positive, suggesting they were not spreading the virus easily to others. This strongly supports an impression I’ve been getting from various reports. That is, most infected people do not spread the virus at all, not even to people they are in very close contact with, but a small subset spread it like crazy. If we could just figure out why and how that happens, or even just be able to identify these superspreaders before they infect dozens of people, we’d be way ahead of this epidemic. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3413 "2020-06-04T07:27:36Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > This strongly supports an impression I’ve been getting from various reports. That is, most infected people do not spread the virus at all, not even to people they are in very close contact with, but a small subset spread it like crazy. If we could just figure out why and how that happens, or even just be able to identify these superspreaders before they infect dozens of people, we’d be way ahead of this epidemic. It’s only the people who exhale who do the spreading. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3414 "2020-06-04T15:24:09Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Wuhan tests 10 million people, finds few virus infections](https://apnews.com/70fd3d4ecbb5882ca0ddd50f4f7532ca) You, ah, believe this? Just curious why you posted this as a drive by link. What are your thoughts on it? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3415 "2020-06-04T16:38:37Z")
> [@XT](#): > > You, ah, believe this? Just curious why you posted this as a drive by link. Because in a breaking news thread a link to an updated story is enough? Not everyone needs their every post to be a multi-paragraph tirade against the “CCP.” We get it already-- you don’t like China. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3416 "2020-06-04T16:51:31Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Because in a breaking news thread a link to an updated story is enough? Not everyone needs their every post to be a multi-paragraph tirade against the “CCP.” We get it already-- you don’t like China. So, if I post a breaking news story that is obviously bullshit or at least suspect, I won’t be questioned on it or whether I actually believe the bullshit because it’s breaking? Good to know! Thanks for letting me know that as it might be good for future use. This isn’t about my dislike of the CCP. I don’t dislike China btw, unless you are saying what the CCP thinks, which is that China is the CCP and vice versa. But regardless, if you are going to post a breaking news article in a drive by I think asking whether the poster themselves believe it when there is more than a bit of doubt about both the number (10 million checked) and the results (almost zero found) is being asserted. YMMV of course, and if we aren’t questioning this stuff then that’s fine. I’m sure you will show the same leniency when someone posts breaking news that is bullshit as well. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3417 "2020-06-04T17:46:15Z")
> [@XT](#): > > You, ah, believe this? Just curious why you posted this as a drive by link. What are your thoughts on it? > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Because in a breaking news thread a link to an updated story is enough? Not everyone needs their every post to be a multi-paragraph tirade against the “CCP.” We get it already-- you don’t like China. > [@XT](#): > > So, if I post a breaking news story that is obviously bullshit or at least suspect, I won’t be questioned on it or whether I actually believe the bullshit because it’s breaking? Good to know! Thanks for letting me know that as it might be good for future use. **Moderator Note** Let’s drop the personal remarks and snark directed at other posters, and don’t impute motives to them. No warnings issued, but if you have a beef with another poster take it to the Pit. Colibri QZ Moderator ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3418 "2020-06-04T18:17:09Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > It’s only the people who exhale who do the spreading. If that were the case, then reports where infected people, usually in lockdown situations, did not transmit the virus to people in their own household should be very rare. They’re in the same house for days, breathing each other’s exhalations, the other people should not be able to avoid contracting it. Yet I’ve seen way too many such reports. And here we have about 300 of them. I’ll admit that this is just an impression on my part, based on news reports. Hardly a scientific result. But hypotheses based on weaker support have been investigated in the past and turned up true. It’s something that should be investigated. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3419 "2020-06-04T20:15:25Z")
Today in Austria: [ul] [li] A study from the Medical University of Vienna has revealed that Austrians working from **home office** during the lockdown have gained an average of two kilograms.[/li][li] With the **lifting of travel restrictions** from all neighbouring countries except Italy, Austria is dismissing 600 soldiers, nearly half of the 1400 that were called up to secure the borders during the pandemic. All neighbouring countries except the Czech Republic have likewise opened their borders to travel from Austria. The Czech Republic was due to open their side of the border on 15 June, but today they announced that the border would instead open tomorrow, on 5 June.[/li][li] The government of Vienna has announced an interesting **stimulus plan involving 16- to 30-year-old consumers** : all 360,000 of them resident in Vienna will receive a €25 coupon which can be redeemed at businesses in their local district.[/li][li] Current statistics: 16,805 confirmed infections, 670 deaths, 15,717 recovered.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3420 "2020-06-04T20:25:06Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Taiwan’s Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) on Tuesday (June 2) announced zero new cases of Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19), marking 51 days without a new local infection. > > During his daily press conference on Tuesday afternoon, Minister of Health and Welfare and CECC head Chen Shih-chung (陳時中) announced there were no new cases of coronavirus for the seventh day in a row. Taiwan’s total number of cases still stands at 443. > > Also: > Up until now, only seven patients have succumbed to the disease, while 427 have been released from hospital isolation. This leaves only nine patients still undergoing treatment for COVID-19 in Taiwan. > > They haven’t declared Mission Accomplishment, but it’s pretty well under control now. The problems will only happen when the borders are reopened and more infected people will visit. These remaining 9 patients seem to have been taking a long time to be released from the hospital - quite a few weeks? I wonder how long the typical hospitalization stay for Covid is. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3421 "2020-06-04T20:42:02Z")
> [@XT](#): > > You, ah, believe this? Just curious why you posted this as a drive by link. What are your thoughts on it? > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Because in a breaking news thread a link to an updated story is enough? Not everyone needs their every post to be a multi-paragraph tirade against the “CCP.” We get it already-- you don’t like China. Aye; that pretty much sums it up: it’s a breaking news thread, not a debate thread or an IMHO thread or a rant. I’ve been posting links and snippets of COVID-19 news daily in it now for almost 4 months. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3422 "2020-06-04T21:30:48Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > These remaining 9 patients seem to have been taking a long time to be released from the hospital - quite a few weeks? I wonder how long the typical hospitalization stay for Covid is. For some unlucky people the period after the acute phase of the disease can seem never-ending… [ **COVID-19 Can Last for Several Months** _The disease’s “long-haulers” have endured relentless waves of debilitating symptoms—and disbelief from doctors and friends._](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/covid-19-coronavirus-longterm-symptoms-months/612679/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+TheAtlantic+%2528The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%2529) > [@](#): > > For Vonny LeClerc, day one was **March 16.** > > Hours after British Prime Minister Boris Johnson instated stringent social-distancing measures to halt the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, LeClerc, a Glasgow-based journalist, arrived home feeling shivery and flushed. Over the next few days, she developed a cough, chest pain, aching joints, and a prickling sensation on her skin. After a week of bed rest, she started improving. But on day 12, every old symptom returned, amplified and with reinforcements: She spiked an intermittent fever, lost her sense of taste and smell, and struggled to breathe. > > **When I spoke with LeClerc on day 66, she was still experiencing waves of symptoms.** “Before this, I was a fit, healthy 32-year-old,” she said. “Now I’ve been reduced to not being able to stand up in the shower without feeling fatigued. I’ve tried going to the supermarket and I’m in bed for days afterwards. It’s like nothing I’ve ever experienced before.” Despite her best efforts, LeClerc has not been able to get a test, but “every doctor I’ve spoken to says there’s no shadow of a doubt that this has been COVID,” she said. **Today is day 80.** > > COVID-19 has existed for less than six months, and it is easy to forget how little we know about it. The standard view is that a minority of infected people, who are typically elderly or have preexisting health problems, end up in critical care, requiring oxygen or a ventilator. About 80 percent of infections, according to the World Health Organization, “are mild or asymptomatic,” and patients recover after two weeks, on average. Yet support groups on Slack and Facebook host thousands of people like LeClerc, who say they have been wrestling with serious COVID-19 symptoms for at least a month, if not two or three. Some call themselves “long-termers” or “long-haulers.” > > I interviewed nine of them for this story, all of whom share commonalities. Most have never been admitted to an ICU or gone on a ventilator, so their cases technically count as “mild.” But their lives have nonetheless been flattened by relentless and rolling waves of symptoms that make it hard to concentrate, exercise, or perform simple physical tasks. Most are young. Most were previously fit and healthy. “It is mild relative to dying in a hospital, but this virus has ruined my life,” LeClerc said. “Even reading a book is challenging and exhausting. What small joys other people are experiencing in lockdown—yoga, bread baking—are beyond the realms of possibility for me.” > … My bold. This (non-paywalled) article is very scary and depressing. When ever I think about going out mask-less in the next few weeks/months, I think about these people. This guy is an infectious disease specialist! > [@](#): > > …It “has been like nothing else on Earth,” said Paul Garner, who has previously endured dengue fever and malaria, and is **currently on day 77** of COVID-19. Garner, an infectious-diseases professor at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, leads a renowned organization that reviews scientific evidence on preventing and treating infections. He tested negative on day 63. He had waited to get a COVID-19 test partly to preserve them for health-care workers, and partly because, at one point, he thought he was going to die. “I knew I had the disease; it couldn’t have been anything else,” he told me. I asked him why he thought his symptoms had persisted. “I honestly don’t know,” he said. “I don’t understand what’s happening in my body.” > … > > Some survivors will have scar tissue from the coronavirus’s assault on their lungs. Some will still be weak after lengthy stays in ICUs or on ventilators. Some will eventually be diagnosed with ME/CFS. Whatever the case, as the pandemic progresses, the number of people with medium-to-long-term disabilities will increase. “Some science fiction—and more than a few tech bros—have led us to believe in a nondisabled future,” says Ashley Shew of Virginia Tech, who studies the intersection between technology and disability. “But whether through environmental catastrophe, or new viruses, we can expect more, exacerbated, and new disabilities.” > … There is a boatload of stuff that we still don’t know about COVID. The trouble is, what you don’t know can kill you… or maybe you will just wish it had. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3423 "2020-06-04T21:39:50Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > These remaining 9 patients seem to have been taking a long time to be released from the hospital - quite a few weeks? I wonder how long the typical hospitalization stay for Covid is. …NZ currently only has one [active case](https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-current-cases)and they have been active for a while. We get the stats daily and people are jokingly demanding that this person “gets better” so that our stats look better 🙂 Will see if they drop off the board today. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3424 "2020-06-05T00:11:08Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > If that were the case, then reports where infected people, usually in lockdown situations, did not transmit the virus to people in their own household should be very rare. They’re in the same house for days, breathing each other’s exhalations, the other people should not be able to avoid contracting it. Yet I’ve seen way too many such reports. And here we have about 300 of them. > > I’ll admit that this is just an impression on my part, based on news reports. Hardly a scientific result. But hypotheses based on weaker support have been investigated in the past and turned up true. It’s something that should be investigated. My uncle has it — classic symptoms, then a positive test. His wife, my aunt, had been quarantined with him for weeks — before, during, and after his symptomatic phase — and she has tested NEGATIVE, twice. (She had a brief episode of one or two mild symptoms, almost surely just a regular cold). So, while we don’t know everything yet, I believe this evidence that there is a wide range of contagiousness among individuals — from “super spreaders,” to my uncje, to everything in between. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3425 "2020-06-05T02:09:36Z")
Tests for the active virus have a lot of false negatives, afaik. Between 20-30%. > **[Beware of false negatives in diagnostic testing of COVID-19](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200526173832.htm)** > > Researchers have found that the chance of a false negative result -- when a virus is not detected in a person who actually is, or recently has been, infected -- is greater than 1 in 5 and, at times, far higher. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3426 "2020-06-05T04:27:38Z")
6,702,699 total cases 393,212 dead 3,251,592 recovered In the US: 1,924,051 total cases 110,173 dead 712,252 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 6,573,540 total cases > 388,041 dead > 3,170,505 recovered > > In the US: > > 1,901,783 total cases > 109,142 dead > 688,670 recovered ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3427 "2020-06-05T11:55:03Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Tests for the active virus have a lot of false negatives, afaik. Between 20-30%. > [Beware of false negatives in diagnostic testing of COVID-19 | ScienceDaily](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200526173832.htm) Thanks. For that percentage, is each TEST an independent event…or, do certain PERSONS tend to have false negatives? If the former, than it’s unlikely my aunt is infected. If the latter, it’s rather more likely that she is. I’ll read your cite now to see if they answer this. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3428 "2020-06-05T12:03:40Z")
Answer: Tests on an individual are not statistically independent events, but not because some persons are more susceptible to false negatives than others. Rather, it’s correlated with WHEN during the course of an illness the person is tested. On average, anyone is least susceptible to a false negative on Day 8 of their infection (typically about three days after they show symptoms). The likelihood of a false negative increases from then on. If she was infected, I estimate my aunt was tested about two weeks later — when the false negative rate is about 50%! This, a second test also being negative doesn’t mean much. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3429 "2020-06-05T14:09:03Z")
[ **Anti-vaccine group targeting tracers** _Campaign fighting long-used tactic to slow diseases_](http://digital.olivesoftware.com/olive/ODN/SanAntonioExpressNews/shared/ShowArticle.aspx?doc=SAEN%2F2020%2F06%2F05&entity=Ar01704&sk=3EE80028&mode=text) > [@](#): > > HOUSTON — The Texas group that lobbies against vaccine mandates is now launching a campaign against COVID-19 contact tracing, the public health measure used for decades around the world to contain disease spread. > > Texans for Vaccine Choice this week called on its members to contact Gov. Greg Abbott and let him know they “do not wish to be monitored or surveilled for any reason” in response to a new state program hiring and training workers to identify people who’ve come into close contact with those who recently tested positive for the novel coronavirus. Such people are then asked to quarantine until testing shows they don’t have the disease. > > “The government should stop thinking its job is to keep everyone healthy and instead focus on protecting our rights,” says a post on the organization’s website. “We here at TFVC will remain vigilant as our government expands greatly and the threats to our members grow.” > … > > Texans for Vaccine Choice, whose website says members reached out to them concerned about the state program, posts a sample letter members can send asking the governor what assurances Texans have that additional contact tracing “will not evolve into another overreaching state program that will ultimately threaten our privacy and consume valuable state resources.” > > “With so many Texans suffering financially, why are you spending $300 million on a ‘temporary’ program aimed at alleviating this single outbreak that, according to your own data, is disappearing without any sort of surveilling intervention?” asks the sample letter. > > **In fact, the latest state data shows no such disappearance of COVID — Tuesday’s 1,809 additional cases were the state’s largest single-day increase since the pandemic began.** > … My bold. One is left speechless. ---
**Author:** ![PoppaSan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poppasan/32/189_2.png) [@PoppaSan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoppaSan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3430 "2020-06-05T16:08:58Z")
[May sees biggest jobs increase ever of 2.5 million as economy starts to recover from coronavirus](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/05/jobs-report-may-2020.html?__source=sharebar%7Clinkedin&par=sharebar) > [@](#): > > Employment stunningly rose by 2.5 million in May and the jobless rate declined to 13.3%, according to data Friday from the Labor Department that was far better than economists had been expecting and indicated that an economic turnaround could be close at hand. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=170) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=172)