# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 184
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3674 "2020-06-29T18:07:15Z")
Ironically, Trumps border wall might save Mexico from the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3675 "2020-06-29T22:08:15Z")
Kansas Governor Laura Kelly was one of the first in the nation to close schools and order a shutdown. Of course, she was vilified by the right, to the point where she bowed to pressure and allowed the state to open before it was advisable. Today, she mandated wearing of masks in public. The order goes into effect on 3 July. Kelly said: > When the pandemic first hit, there was mixed messaging about masks. Now the evidence could not be clearer. Wearing a mask is not only safe but it is necessary to avoid another shutdown. Already on social media she is being raked over the coals. Gotta admire her guts. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3676 "2020-06-29T22:26:13Z")
“The first healthy volunteers have now received a candidate coronavirus vaccine developed by Imperial researchers.” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aqA0RW6ISP8/maxresdefault.jpg "First volunteers receive Imperial COVID-19 vaccine") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqA0RW6ISP8) CMC ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3677 "2020-06-29T22:28:00Z")
> **[Oregonians will be required to wear masks statewide starting Wednesday](https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/06/oregonians-will-be-required-to-wear-masks-statewide-not-just-in-select-counties-starting-wednesday-governor-says.html)** > > Gov. Kate Brown says masks must be worn in all indoor public spaces. Goes into effect Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3678 "2020-06-30T02:00:05Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Georgia reported record numbers of cases on June 26. Then broke the record on June 27. Then broke that record on June 29. They are experiencing major growth at the moment. Georgia has had more cases/100k population (57.6) in the past **three days** than my province has had in the **entire timeline of the pandemic (56.7)** And we are STILL being more cautious that Georgia is right now. Literally half of my family is infected right now. They live in Georgia. As much as I want to go down there and help, I just can’t take the chance being in that hot zone. I’m freaking out at the idea the hospitals will be completely swamped right when my parents are in need of urgent medical care. In the worse case scenario that I envisioned back in April, I figured only two family members would get sick at a time, which would keep some “human resources” in reserve to help them. How foolish I was to think that was the “worse”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3679 "2020-06-30T04:34:54Z")
10,412,343 total cases 508,228 dead 5,667,665 recovered In the US: 2,681,811 total cases 128,783 dead 1,117,177 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 10,243,859 total cases > 504,410 dead > 5,553,495 recovered > > In the US: > > 2,637,077 total cases > 128,437 dead > 1,093,456 recovered ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3680 "2020-06-30T12:48:53Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Ironically, Trumps border wall might save Mexico from the USA. And Mexico got us to pay for it! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3681 "2020-06-30T15:30:55Z")
Didn’t the Supreme Court cancel that check? (Or was it a lower federal court?) ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3682 "2020-06-30T16:17:35Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I just can’t take the chance being in that hot zone. What is your assessment of the sorts of risks? I ask this sincerely - not trying to be critical. Personally, I can imagine staying away from a congested area like Manhattan. And I’m in no hurry to fly ANYWHERE. But I’d imagine that even with a sizeable uptick in a specific locality, there are likely huge swaths of surrounding area where there would be minimal - if any - risk. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3683 "2020-06-30T16:33:01Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > What is your assessment of the sorts of risks? I ask this sincerely - not trying to be critical. My assessment is based on my own health concerns. If I get infected, I will not be allowed to go into the clinic where I’m being treated for my breast cancer. Mayhap I’d get infected and I could get the virus out of my system before my surgery date. That would be terrific. But I ain’t banking on it. I’ve heard of people being sick as long as two months. I just can’t risk it. I talked to my oncologist yesterday and she said that she has seen a higher than normal rate of cancellations for surgical appointments. She said didn’t say asmuch, but she kind of hinted that several of her scheduled patients have gotten sick from COVID. I hate that I even have this thought, but I’m hoping this continues so that I can grab one of her July appointments. I’m scared if I wait too long, another lockdown will happen before I can get my surgery. And that I will suck sooooooooo bad. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3684 "2020-06-30T16:35:29Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > What is your assessment of the sorts of risks? I ask this sincerely - not trying to be critical. > > Personally, I can imagine staying away from a congested area like Manhattan. And I’m in no hurry to fly ANYWHERE. But I’d imagine that even with a sizeable uptick in a specific locality, there are likely huge swaths of surrounding area where there would be minimal - if any - risk. The county where I live in western PA has had 73 confirmed COVID 19 cases and 6 deaths. I can walk out my door and know I will not see another human. I can take the dogs walking in the woods _for hours_ and not encounter another human. Overall I feel fairly safe, but you couldn’t pay me to travel by air, attend an indoor event, or go grocery shopping sans mask. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3685 "2020-06-30T16:38:01Z")
Thanks for your response. Sorry for your personal health concerns. Hope all goes as well as could be expected. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3686 "2020-06-30T17:49:00Z")
It happened: > ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3687 "2020-06-30T17:54:49Z")
How are they going to enforce that? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3688 "2020-06-30T18:03:41Z")
[US citizens not allowed into the European Union Countries.](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/eu-borders-open-but-not-to-americans-intl/index.html) Citizens of Russia and Brazil are also not allowed in. If you are from Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, Uruguay, you are allowed to visit the EU countries. US Citizens are still not allowed into Canada, unless on Essential travel. I expect this will continue for the foreseeable future. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3689 "2020-06-30T20:35:08Z")
The news from Panama has pretty much all been bad. As of mid-May, we were averaging 150-170 new cases a day, and it looked like things were more or less under control. But then they decided to open up parts of the economy, and new cases began to soar. Three of the past five days new cases have topped 1,000, and yesterday was 1,099, the highest it’s ever been. This is despite one of the most severe lockdowns anywhere in the world, with most people only allowed to go out for two hours a day every other day (based on ID number and sex, with men and women on alternate days and nobody on Sunday). They briefly relaxed the movement limitations so everyone could go out between 5 AM and 7 PM, but that was after the number of new cases began to increase, and they shut things down again in the Panama City metropolitan area (where most of the cases have been) within less than a week. Most of the cases are concentrated in poorer neighborhoods in the older part of Panama City and the suburbs to the west and east. Things aren’t so bad elsewhere in the country. The President fired the Minister of Health last week, though I don’t know how much she has been personally responsible for the failure to get things under control. There have also been multiple scandals. Early on a vice minister of health fired for selling ventilators at inflated prices. The most recent one was because the members of the President’s party in the legislature decided to have a party meeting in a popular restaurant, even though all other restaurants are closed. They’ve been fined tens of thousands of dollars. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3690 "2020-07-01T04:38:01Z")
10,590,724 total cases 514,020 dead 5,798,270 recovered In the US: 2,727,853 total cases 130,122 dead 1,143,334 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 10,412,343 total cases > 508,228 dead > 5,667,665 recovered > > In the US: > > 2,681,811 total cases > 128,783 dead > 1,117,177 recovered ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3691 "2020-07-01T04:54:51Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > [US citizens not allowed into the European Union Countries.](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/eu-borders-open-but-not-to-americans-intl/index.html) > Citizens of Russia and Brazil are also not allowed in. > > If you are from Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, Uruguay, you are allowed to visit the EU countries. > > US Citizens are still not allowed into Canada, unless on Essential travel. I expect this will continue for the foreseeable future. I have a friend who’s a British citizen, even though she’s lived in New York for 30 years and has two grown kids here. She’s flying to London on Friday to visit family. Since she’s a British citizen, she’s allowed in. Not sure I see the sense in that. Isn’t she just as likely to be contagious as someone who’s a US citizen living in the US? I’m glad she gets to go. II just don’t get the logic. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3692 "2020-07-01T05:07:26Z")
As a returning citizen, She will have to self quarantine for 14 days after arrival or risk a large fine. In other words she cannot see her family for the first 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3693 "2020-07-01T05:10:49Z")
Right. She’s got reservations at a B&B for the first two weeks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=183) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=185)