# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 189
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3775 "2020-07-10T16:31:47Z")
I went into Worldometer and it says Florida has 11,433 new cases. If you click for yesterday, it says they had 8,935 cases. That means 2,498 more today than yesterday…almost 28% increase in one day. That can’t be right…can it? ETA link: [United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3776 "2020-07-10T16:43:28Z")
It was hovering around or above 10,000 for awhile so I’d guess that that was either a statistical fluke or the lack of reporting on weekends. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3777 "2020-07-10T17:31:35Z")
Might depend how quickly they’re doing contact tracing and what testing supplies they have available. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3778 "2020-07-10T17:45:04Z")
Yes it can, testing may have periods when they seem to hit all the ones who are carrying, and other times when it seems to miss - hence daily variability - useful to look at the 3 and 7 day trends ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3779 "2020-07-10T17:54:41Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Yes, quite standard. I’ve seen it in insurance policies for a couple of decades, but never thought I’d ever see it come into play (at least in the US). If you host an event during an epidemic intentionally, and people get sick, that’s a huge potential liability. Hence the waivers that Trump had people sign at his indoor rally (which usually may or may not hold up in court). Insurance policies have had explicit pandemic exclusions since SARS1 made the news. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3780 "2020-07-10T21:02:55Z")
Looks like Texas Gov. Greg Abbott is finally getting the picture. Bigtime pushback from Texas Republicans in 3…2…1… 🤯 > **[Gov. Greg Abbott warns if spread of COVID-19 doesn’t slow, “the next step...](https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/greg-abbott-shutdown-texas-mask-order/)** > > Abbott has repeated that warning multiple times in local television interviews this week. > With Texas continuing to break records for new coronavirus deaths and hospitalizations this week, Gov. [Greg Abbott](https://www.texastribune.org/directory/greg-abbott/) reiterated Friday afternoon that things will continue to get worse. And if people keep flouting his new [statewide mask mandate](https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/02/texas-mask-order-greg-abbott-coronavirus/), he said, the next step could be another economic lockdown. > > “Things will get worse, and let me explain why,” he told KLBK TV in Lubbock. “The deaths that we’re seeing announced today and yesterday — which are now over 100 — those are people who likely contracted COVID-19 in late May. > > “The worst is yet to come as we work our way through that massive increase in people testing positive.” > > Texans will also likely see an increase in cases next week, Abbott said, and people abiding by his face mask requirement might be the only thing standing between businesses remaining open and another shutdown. > … ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3781 "2020-07-11T00:35:18Z")
Too little, too late, Greg. > **[Houston hospitals are increasingly turning away new patients as coronavirus...](https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/houston-coronavirus-emergency-rooms/)** > > The busiest hospitals in Houston are increasingly telling emergency responders they cannot safely accept new patients as hundreds of coronavirus patients crowd emergency rooms, and hospitals scramble to open more intensive care space. > HOUSTON — Houston hospitals have been forced to treat hundreds of COVID-19 patients in their emergency rooms — sometimes for several hours or multiple days — as they scramble to open additional intensive care beds for the wave of seriously ill people streaming through their doors, according to internal numbers shared with NBC News and ProPublica. > > At the same time, the region’s 12 busiest hospitals are increasingly telling emergency responders that they cannot safely accept new patients, at a rate nearly three times that of a year ago, according to data reviewed by reporters. > > … > > On Thursday, [3,812 people were hospitalized with COVID-19](https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiYjU5MzU4NjAtZWJjMC00MTllLTkwYjYtMzE4ODY1YjAyMGU2IiwidCI6ImI3MjgwODdjLTgwZTgtNGQzMS04YjZmLTdlMGUzYmUxMGUwOCIsImMiOjN9) in the region, including more than 1,000 in intensive care units, a record since the pandemic began. At the same time, since Texas officials have not issued another stay-at-home order to slow the virus’ spread, hospitals are also still seeing a steady flow of patients in need of care as a result of car accidents, violent crime and heat-related medical emergencies. > … ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3782 "2020-07-11T04:51:14Z")
There could be a flood of personal bankruptcies coming this autumn. > **[Personal bankruptcies plunge during pandemic, but 'a flood' could be on the...](https://money.yahoo.com/personal-bankruptcies-plunge-during-pandemic-but-a-flood-could-be-on-the-horizon-195638567.html)** > > Even as the coronavirus pandemic battered the economy, a surprising trend emerged: The number of people filing for personal bankruptcy plunged. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3783 "2020-07-11T05:23:59Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > There could be a flood of personal bankruptcies coming this autumn. I can foresee a major worldwide financial crisis coming up in the next few months, that will make 2008 look like child’s play. This isn’t the forum to go into it, but the system isn’t as stable as it looks on the surface, and the financial impact of the pandemic has hardly started to hit yet. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3784 "2020-07-11T05:33:31Z")
12,631,067 total cases 562,889 dead 7,366,491 recovered In the US: 3,291,786 total cases 136,671 dead 1,460,495 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 12,393,492 total cases > 557,491 dead > 7,224,885 recovered > > In the US: > > 3,219,999 total cases > 135,822 dead > 1,426,428 recovered Should be well over 13,000,000 total cases worldwide before the weekend is up. I expect the US death toll per day to creep over 1,000 again this weekend as well. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3785 "2020-07-11T07:52:40Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > I can foresee a major worldwide financial crisis coming up in the next few months, that will make 2008 look like child’s play. And yet there are articles from even this week saying how the housing market’s fine, and actually, prices will probably keep going up because there’s more demand than supply and unemployment etc. is really no big deal/won’t have an effect. Someone on a housing mb a couple of months ago linked a bunch of nearly identical-in-content articles from 3 months before the last crash… I’ve only found two articles in which any experts admit the housing market is on the path to a W shaped trend for the year or so to come, not already on the upside of a V. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3786 "2020-07-11T08:04:16Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > And yet there are articles from even this week saying how the housing market’s fine But this time the problem is not in the housing market. It’s a different situation entirely, mainly institutional debt. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3787 "2020-07-11T13:46:57Z")
> **['I thought this was a hoax': Patient in their 30s dies after attending 'COVID...](https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/i-thought-this-was-a-hoax-patient-in-their-30s-dies-after-attending-covid-party)** > > SAN ANTONIO, Texas (WOAI/KABB) – A patient in their 30s died from the coronavirus after attending what's being called a I can’t wrap my brain around this. In the US, 135,000+ dead-- seriously, do they think these numbers are a lie? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3788 "2020-07-11T15:05:09Z")
> **[As Texas morgues fill up, refrigerator trucks are on the way in several counties](https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/texas-coronavirus-deaths-morgues-capacity/)** > > More than 3,000 Texans have died from the coronavirus and counties are preparing for even more deaths by expanding their capacities to store bodies. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3789 "2020-07-11T17:44:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I can’t wrap my brain around this. In the US, 135,000+ dead-- seriously, do they think these numbers are a lie? Here is another one. > **[Richard Rose: Ohio Man Dies of COVID-19 After Saying Masks Were Hype](https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/richard-rose-covid-19-coronavirus/)** > > Richard Rose posted that he was not buying a mask or joining the hype of COVID-19. He went to a packed pool and passed away from coronavirus a few weeks later. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3790 "2020-07-11T17:49:27Z")
> **[Obituary for COVID-19 victim blames politicians for his death](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8511589/Obituary-COVID-19-victim-blames-politicians-death.html)** > > Mark Urquiza, from Arizona, was diagnosed with COVID-19 in mid-June and died three weeks later in the ICU. His daughter believes the governor's pandemic response is to blame. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3791 "2020-07-12T04:02:46Z")
12,842,112 total cases 567,653 dead 7,478,196 recovered In the US: 3,355,646 total cases 137,403 dead 1,490,446 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 12,631,067 total cases > 562,889 dead > 7,366,491 recovered > > In the US: > > 3,291,786 total cases > 136,671 dead > 1,460,495 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3792 "2020-07-12T04:26:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I can’t wrap my brain around this. In the US, 135,000+ dead-- seriously, do they think these numbers are a lie? Apparently they do. Even some of my relatives in Texas three months ago were saying it was a big hoax, but now they’re all very quiet about it. Speaking of numbers not being right, has anyone in these threads talked about excess deaths in the CDC data? I’ve been modeling them for a couple of months now, and there’s no question in my mind that the current counts in the range of around 25K-30K understated. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3793 "2020-07-12T04:40:33Z")
I think you are missing a couple of words in that last sentence? Are you saying the current counts are understated by 25K-30K? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3794 "2020-07-12T04:53:48Z")
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