# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 199
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3977 "2020-07-30T08:10:48Z")
17,201,277 total cases 670,454 dead 10,716,271 recovered In the US: 4,568,375 total cases 153,845 dead 2,245,521 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 16,895,076 total cases > 663,476 dead > 10,458,632 recovered > > In the US: > > 4,498,343 total cases > 152,320 dead > 2,185,894 recovered I’m a bit late with the numbers tonight folks; sorry about that. I was distracted by something pleasant: celebrating a dear friend’s birthday via modern communication devices. **Colibri** , thank you for the update on Panama. I’m sorry to hear that things went downhill so quickly and so much. Thanks to **ThelmaLou** and **Melbourne** for the updates on Vietnam and Australia too. I don’t think we’ve heard from **psychonaut** about Austria in awhile. I see from the numbers that things aren’t as good as they have been but are still nowhere near as bad as they’ve been. Hopefully we’ll get an update about things there soon too. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3978 "2020-07-30T14:37:14Z")
It’s all over twitter - I saw a Newsmax link first - Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with Corona-virus. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3979 "2020-07-30T14:39:37Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > It’s all over twitter - I saw a Newsmax link first - Herman Cain has died after being hospitalized with Corona-virus . CNN too. I guess it’s official Diagnosed 10 days after attending Trump’s Tulsa rally. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3981 "2020-07-30T14:56:56Z")
> **[Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain dies after battle with coronavirus](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/former-gop-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-dies-after-battle-with-coronavirus.html)** > > Cain, a onetime presidential hopeful who was once considered by Trump for the Federal Reserve, is among the highest-profile public figures in the United States to have died from Covid-19. Yeah, here it is. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3982 "2020-07-30T15:10:17Z")
They’re not confirming that Cain contracted it at Trump’s Tulsa rally, but that seems to fit the timeline perfectly. The Tulsa Rally of Death claims another victim. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3983 "2020-07-30T16:23:39Z")
This is old news (July 13th), but this is an FDA list of hand sanitizers containing methanol. I copied the list from [MarketWatch.com](http://MarketWatch.com) which had better formatting than the FDA. - Blumen Clear Advanced Hand Sanitizer with 70% Alcohol - Blumen Advanced Instant Hand Sanitizer Clear Ethyl Alcohol 70% - BLUMEN Advanced Instant Hand Sanitizer Clear - KLAR AND DANVER Instant Hand Sanitizer (labeled with Greenbrier International Inc.) - MODESA Instant Hand Sanitizer Moisturizers and Vitamin E - BLUMEN Advanced Hand Sanitizer - BLUMEN Advanced Hand Sanitizer Aloe - BLUMEN Advanced Instant Hand Sanitizer Lavender - BLUMEN Clear LEAR Advanced Hand Sanitizer - BLUEMEN Clear Advanced Hand Sanitizer - The Honeykeeper Hand Sanitizer - BLUMEN Advanced Hand Sanitizer Clear - BLUMEN Clear Advanced Instant Hand Sanitizer - BLUMEN Clear Advanced Instant Hand Sanitizer Aloe - BLUMEN Clear Advanced Instant Hand Sanitizer Lavender - BLUMEN Aloe Advanced Hand Sanitizer, with 70 Alcohol - Blumen Advanced Hand Sanitizer Lavender, with 70% alcohol - Blumen Advanced Hand Sanitizer Aloe, with 70% alcohol - Blumen Antibacterial Fresh Citrus Hand Sanitizer - Blumen Hand Sanitizer Fresh Citrus - KLAR and DANVER INSTANT HAND SANTIZER - Hello Kitty by Sanrio Hand Sanitizer - Assured Instant Hand Sanitizer (Vitamin E and Aloe) - Assured Instant Hand Sanitizer (Aloe and Moisturizers) - Assured Instant Hand Sanitizer Vitamin E and Aloe - Assured Instant Hand Sanitizer Aloe and Moisturizers - BLUMEN Instant Hand Sanitizer Fragrance Free - BLUMEN Instant Hand Sanitizer Aloe Vera - Assured Aloe - bio aaa Advance Hand Sanitizer - LumiSkin Advance Hand Sanitizer 4 oz - LumiSkin Advance Hand Sanitizer 16 oz - QualitaMed Hand Sanitizer - Earths Amenities Instant Unscented Hand Sanitizer with Aloe Vera Advanced - Hand Sanitizer Agavespa Skincare - Vidanos Easy Cleaning Rentals Hand Sanitizer Agavespa Skincare - All-Clean Hand Sanitizer - Esk Biochem Hand Sanitizer - Lavar 70 Gel Hand Sanitizer - The Good Gel Antibacterial Gel Hand Sanitizer - CleanCare NoGerm Advanced Hand Sanitizer 80% Alcohol - CleanCare NoGerm Advanced Hand Sanitizer 75% Alcohol - CleanCare NoGerm Advanced Hand Sanitizer 80% Alcohol - Saniderm Advanced Hand Sanitizer - Hand sanitizer Gel Unscented 70% Alcohol - Andy’s Best - Andy’s - Gelclor - NeoNatural - Plus Advanced - Optimus Lubricants Instant Hand Sanitizer - Shine and Clean Hand Sanitizer - Selecto Hand Sanitizer - Mystic Shield Protection hand sanitizer - Bersih Hand Sanitizer Gel Fragrance Free - Antiseptic Alcohol 70% Topical Solution hand sanitizer - Hand sanitizer (labeled with Wet Look Janitorial and Gardening Corp.) - Britz Hand Sanitizer Ethyl Alcohol 70% - DAESI hand sanitizer You gotta love modern marketing. “Mystic Shield Protection,” indeed. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3984 "2020-07-30T19:46:13Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > They’re not confirming that Cain contracted it at Trump’s Tulsa rally, but that seems to fit the timeline perfectly. > > The Tulsa Rally of Death claims another victim. I doubt anyone knows exactly where he contracted it. But surely the rally is the most likely source. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3985 "2020-07-30T19:48:56Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I doubt anyone knows exactly where he contracted it. But surely the rally is the most likely source Agreed. And the lack of decent contact tracing is one of the reasons that the US is a shit show at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3986 "2020-07-30T21:26:57Z")
> [@SayTwo](#): > > Thanks for the update, **Colibri**. Been thinking about you when I see Panama pop up on the dashboards. Question for you about those stringent lockdowns. Are there regular news stories about people flouting the rules? If so, are there arrests, fines, business closures? Just wondering how strong the compliance is, or what might account for continued, or even increased, spread in the face of such containment measures. There are regular news stories about how the police arrested hundreds of people in the past week for violating restrictions or curfew. I think these are mostly gatherings or parties rather than just individuals who are out when they are not supposed to be. I haven’t heard of businesses being closed. At this point, it’s only supermarkets, pharmacies, and hardware stores that are allowed to be open. Restaurants are only for takeout or delivery. I have never seen a cop ask someone for their ID number to check if they’re out at their allotted time, and while there are traffic checks at this point they are mostly just waving people through. But that’s really as it should be, since single people going about their business are not what’s driving new cases. In general, compliance with masks and social distancing is very good in my middle to upper class neighborhood. Friends who live in or shop in poorer neighborhoods say its not so good. The big increase in cases started when the government started opening up a few blocks of the economy, but I can’t say what behavior has driven the increase in cases. ---
**Author:** ![yohan\_go](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yohan_go/32/3620_2.png) [@yohan\_go](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yohan_go)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3987 "2020-07-31T00:58:43Z")
Haven’t update situation in Slovenia for some time, so here it is. There were only six cases all together at some point in May, then “second” wave struck, as borders opened. This time not from Italy’s skiing resorts but from Balkan diaspora. Measures were back quickly and now some insights: - Masks mandatory in all closed public spaces and transports. - All business as usual if masked or social distanced. One or another. Both at the same time not usually necessary. - No public gatherings over 10. 50 with manifesto. More if “plague committee” permits. For example, you can go to church services using masks and leaving your phone number by the doors. Some outdoor mass gathering alowed, if properly organized and supervised. - Tourist vouchers distributed for all over 18 yo (200€ per person, can be transferred among close relatives) that can only be usable for B&B services are used to help the situation (tourism is about 15% of the BDP here.) - Somewhat strict border regime with strict quarantine enforcing for all blacklisted counties. List changes daily. At the moment situation looks like stabilizing at 10 - 15 new cases / million / a day. Main problem is, there are no centralized outbraks, they just pop up randomly. That shit is relatively rare here, but it is everywhere. Just heard over news, half of new cases were work related. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3988 "2020-07-31T01:24:46Z")
Of course the rally was the most likely source. How sad that Trump announced Cain’s death by using the racist slur he thought was so clever: "“He was a very special person … and unfortunately he passed away from a thing called the China virus,” ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3989 "2020-07-31T02:21:26Z")
According to Scandinavia and the World (where I get all my Scandinavian news), they’re not wearing masks in that part of the world. Interesting. > **[Masquerade - Scandinavia and the World](https://satwcomic.com/masquerade)** > > Webcomic: After my last comic so many Americans were like “The Scandinavian countries are so smart and we can’t even get America ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3990 "2020-07-31T04:26:24Z")
17,476,105 total cases 676,759 dead 10,939,473 recovered In the US: 4,634,985 total cases 155,285 dead 2,284,965 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 17,201,277 total cases > 670,454 dead > 10,716,271 recovered > > In the US: > > 4,568,375 total cases > 153,845 dead > 2,245,521 recovered ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3991 "2020-07-31T13:51:55Z")
Yet another wrinkle that’s not surprising… > **[COVID-19 Hospital Data System That Bypasses CDC Plagued By Delays, Inaccuracies](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/31/897429054/covid-19-hospital-data-system-that-bypasses-cdc-plagued-by-delays-inaccuracies?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)** > > The Trump administration had promised complete, transparent information on the coronavirus and hospital capacity. Instead, the new system has produced erratic updates and confusing numbers. > Earlier this month, when the Trump administration told hospitals to send crucial data about coronavirus cases and intensive care capacity to a new online system, it promised the change would be worth it. The data would be more complete, transparent, and an improvement over the old platform run by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, administration officials said. > > Instead, the public data hub created under the new system is updated erratically and is rife with inconsistencies and errors, data analysts say. > > Lawmakers plan to grill members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force about the reporting change, and what’s being done to ensure the data remains public and reliable, [in a Friday morning hearing](https://coronavirus.house.gov/subcommittee-activity/hearings/hybrid-hearing-urgent-need-national-plan-contain-coronavirus) of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus. Several House subcommittees have already [launched an investigation](https://coronavirus.house.gov/news/press-releases/clyburn-maloney-krishnamoorthi-demand-information-decision-divert-coronavirus) into to the data change. > … Grilling of the perps by committees-- that’s the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3992 "2020-07-31T14:06:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Grilling of the perps by committees-- that’s the ticket. I have plenty of propane for my Weber. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3993 "2020-07-31T17:08:51Z")
[Incredible Vanity Fair article here](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air?fbclid=IwAR1eN4lSzP37Fh5IlP3NBN59EUODD9vlz6-ezkMWIdR73AZimsB_SAWPy6k) that claims that Jared Kushner led a team to create a comprehensive national Covid testing plan, but the plan was scrapped because it was not politically expedient (i.e. at the time, mostly people in blue states were dying and their governors would be blamed). Every time I think this administration cannot sink any lower, they prove me wrong. The article says they have a copy of the plan and all the WhatsApp texts used by the team to create it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3994 "2020-07-31T17:27:33Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > [Incredible Vanity Fair article here](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air?fbclid=IwAR1eN4lSzP37Fh5IlP3NBN59EUODD9vlz6-ezkMWIdR73AZimsB_SAWPy6k) From the article: > [@](#): > > Though President Trump likes to trumpet America’s sheer number of tests, that metric does not account for the speed of results or the response to them, said Dr. **June-Ho Kim,** a public health researcher at Ariadne Labs, a collaboration between Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health and Brigham and Women’s Hospital, who leads a team studying outlier countries with successful COVID-19 responses. **“If you’re pedaling really hard and not going anywhere, it’s all for naught.”** Unless your goal is to lose weight, eh. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3995 "2020-07-31T17:36:55Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > The article says they have a copy of the plan and all the WhatsApp texts used by the team to create it. The Government team coordinating the national Covid-19 response is drafting their plan _via texts_? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3996 "2020-07-31T17:48:26Z")
Gotta have that encryption, baby! Though that obviously doesn’t prevent leaks 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/3997 "2020-07-31T18:39:27Z")
> **[Gov. Greg Abbott says local health officials can shut down schools only in...](https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/31/greg-abbott-texas-schools-reopening/)** > > Abbott said local health authorities can't shut down in-person instruction before school starts, but an outbreak on campus once students have arrived could prompt a closure. > In a statement Friday, Gov. Greg Abbott said local health authorities can shut down schools if there’s evidence of an outbreak after students have already returned to campus — but cannot shut them down weeks before schools open. > … Oops! There go dem horsies! Time to lock the barn doors! > But Abbott, who issued the statement with top education officials, said school districts could apply for waivers to keep their buildings closed beyond the state’s eight-week maximum if they believe they need one. The Texas Education Agency will review those requests on a “case-by-case basis,” according to the statement. > … I’m sure this will be accomplished at warp speed _(as it were)_ in an exceedingly timely fashion. On time in time for school to start. Or not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=198) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=200)