# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 205
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4098 "2020-08-06T15:05:17Z")
If I were positive, I’d be delighted to have the opportunity to stay away from my loved ones until I were well. And if I had a government I had reason to trust, it wouldn’t be detention in any way, shape, or form. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4099 "2020-08-06T15:14:41Z")
This thread has gotten off track. It’s supposed to be for breaking news on Covid, but it’s turned into an opinion thread on why people should or shouldn’t get tested. I would suggest that the opinion / debate be moved to a separate thread so that this one can remain dedicated to breaking news. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4100 "2020-08-06T15:17:09Z")
> [@ratatoskK](#): > > This thread has gotten off track. It’s supposed to be for breaking news on Covid, but it’s turned into an opinion thread on why people should or shouldn’t get tested. I would suggest that the opinion / debate be moved to a separate thread so that this one can remain dedicated to breaking news That’s fair. Sorry for my part of the derailment. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4101 "2020-08-06T15:17:34Z")
Yes, you’re absolutely correct. 👍🏼 It’s hard to contain feelings, but those expressions belong in another thread. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4102 "2020-08-06T15:34:39Z")
Well, you certainly wouldn’t need a government to give you that ‘opportunity’. I’m not really sure how that has any relevance at all. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4103 "2020-08-06T15:38:02Z")
Sure I do. I can’t afford a hotel for two weeks, and once there I would need food delivered. Also, staying at a random hotel would be risking the health of the people there, if ventilation was shared or whatever. Much better in a hotel set up for people with COVID. I would also appreciate organized monitoring of my health, so if I take a turn for the worse, I don’t die alone. There is a lot to be said for supporting comfortable, competent isolation. Eta: this is also not breaking news. My apologies. @SayTwo, feel free to start a new thread if you want go discuss this. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4104 "2020-08-06T15:52:42Z")
A study just came out saying that asymptomatic people have similar amounts of viral load as symptomatic people: > **[Even Asymptomatic People Carry the Coronavirus in High Amounts (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission.html)** > > Researchers in South Korea found that roughly 30 percent of those infected never develop symptoms yet probably spread the virus. They say it’s not clear how many people get infected from an asymptomatic person. Although the person is not expelling massive amounts of virus by coughing and sneezing, they aren’t staying home in bed like a symptomatic person would be. But it is an example of why it would be beneficial to have testing available for asymptomatic people. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4105 "2020-08-06T16:49:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > A positive test gives you useful information re exposing yourself to other people, whether you’re at work or at home. But to me, you should ACT AS IF you’re positive when deciding what precautions to take no matter what the test says. IOW, take ALL precautions, regardless. ( I wholeheartedly agree with this in principle, but many–maybe even _most_–people need to have evidence they’re positive in order to adjust their behavior. Case in point: boyfriend of a friend felt unwell (sore throat, cough, fatigue, and lost his sense of taste and smell. The boyfriend is an EMT, but they don’t wear full PPE unless the patient has COVID symptoms, and he was unmasked in social situations with other people who were unmasked. Friend was worried, but a nurse assured her that people lose their sense of taste and smell when they have a cold, so he probably just had a cold. Friend was relieved and didn’t get tested. I assume the bf did, but if so, they don’t have results back yet. We humans are just too damned good at convincing ourselves of what we want to be true. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4106 "2020-08-07T03:59:28Z")
U.S. hits 5 million cases today. Anyone have the numbers of how long it took to reach the 1st million, the time between the 1st and 2nd million, the time between the 2nd and 3rd million, the time between the 3rd and 4th million and the time between the 4th and 5th million cases? > **[COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/)** > > Daily and weekly updated statistics tracking the number of COVID-19 cases, recovered, and deaths. Historical data with cumulative charts, graphs, and updates. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4107 "2020-08-07T04:07:50Z")
19,257,723 total cases 717,687 dead 12,357,655 recovered In the US: 5,032,179 total cases 162,804 dead 2,576,668 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 18,977,637 total cases > 711,220 dead > 12,166,746 recovered > > In the US: > > 4,973,568 total cases > 161,601 dead > 2,540,137 recovered The world went over 19,000,000 total cases today; it will go over 20,000,000 on Sunday 9 August. ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4108 "2020-08-07T07:10:55Z")
First US reported case - 21 Jan US hits 100 cases [this is taken as Day 0 by John Hopkins] 1 Million - 28 April - Day 55 [55 days for 1 million cases] 2 Million - 10 June - Day 98 [43 days for 1 million cases] 3 Million - 8 July - Day 126 [28 days for 1 million cases] 4 Million - 23 July - Day 141 [15 days for 1 million cases] 5 Million - 7 August - on the JH site we are just shy of 5 million on Day 155 [lets say 15 days for 1 Million cases] As your fearless leader says, it is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4109 "2020-08-07T08:45:21Z")
> [@Banksiaman](#): > > US hits 100 cases [this is taken as Day 0 by John Hopkins] [Johns Hopkins.](https://www.jhu.edu/) ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4110 "2020-08-07T12:46:22Z")
He gets that a lot, does our John. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4111 "2020-08-07T13:51:09Z")
What (if any) has been the effect of trump ordering hospitals to stop sending reports to CDC and send them to… where, exactly? It seems like good numbers are still available from Johns Hopkins-- where do they get their numbers? Sorry, I’m having a hard time keeping up with all the potholes in the road. ---
**Author:** ![Crunched\_Frog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crunched_frog/32/3491_2.png) [@Crunched\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunched_Frog)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4112 "2020-08-07T15:20:33Z")
> **[COVID-19 Hospital Data System That Bypasses CDC Plagued By Delays, Inaccuracies](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/31/897429054/covid-19-hospital-data-system-that-bypasses-cdc-plagued-by-delays-inaccuracies)** > > The Trump administration had promised complete, transparent information on the coronavirus and hospital capacity. Instead, the new system has produced erratic updates and confusing numbers. (from a week ago. might be better now) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4113 "2020-08-07T15:31:11Z")
> [@Crunched\_Frog](#): > > [New Trump COVID-19 Hospitalization Data System Is Not Faster Nor More Complete : Shots - Health News : NPR](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/31/897429054/covid-19-hospital-data-system-that-bypasses-cdc-plagued-by-delays-inaccuracies) > > (from a week ago. might be better now) - You’re an optimistic sort. ---
**Author:** ![Crunched\_Frog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crunched_frog/32/3491_2.png) [@Crunched\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunched_Frog)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4114 "2020-08-07T15:34:38Z")
A roll out of a massive system change is always going to have some bumps. I have no doubt it has improved some. But this was definitely a “you don’t change horses midstream” situation so it’s pretty inexcusable regardless. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4115 "2020-08-07T18:37:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > We need to behave like everyone has it, including ourselves YES. It’s as simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4116 "2020-08-07T19:07:29Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > We need to behave like everyone has it, including ourselves > > YES. It’s as simple as that But it’s not all-or-nothing. I eat face-to-face with my husband and daughter. If I thought I had it, I would be isolating from them. Yesterday I took my mom to see her doctor. She needed to see the doctor, and isn’t capable of going on her own. So somebody had to take her. There wasn’t a “no risk” solution, because anyone might have it. I took as many precautions as I could. I wore all clean clothes as I left my house, wore my best (KN90) mask, didn’t get any closer to her than I needed to, and didn’t breathe towards her. But if I thought I had an active case, I would have refused to take her, and insisted she find someone else to bring her to the doctor. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4117 "2020-08-07T19:24:34Z")
> [@SayTwo](#): > > In many countries you would not even begin to have this choice, as you would go enjoy a nice stay in a government detention center. When people complain about the US response to this thing, compared to other places, I’m not sure they fully comprehend what they’re asking for. There is a middle ground between “I will do whatever I want, you can’t stop me” And “Government detention centers” And that is what most countries who have controlled the virus reasonably well are doing. In Canada if you test positive for Covid, you are REQUIRED to self-isolate according to health guidelines published by the Provincial Health Office. Most people follow these clear and published rules,which in current provincial emergencies, have the force of law. No “government detention centers” needed, as the vast majority of people follow the law. It’s simple. It’s a public health emergency. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=204) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=206)