# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4742 "2020-09-12T16:28:09Z")

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re: the discussion about whether the vaccine(s) are being tested on people with preexisting conditions, here is a piece in the NY Times: [Covering Ebola Didn’t Prepare Me for This: I Volunteered for the Covid-19 Vaccine Trial](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/us/politics/coronavirus-vaccine-first-person.html).

> George Washington University invited me to participate in Moderna’s vaccine trial because I am triple-risk: a Black woman, a Type 1 diabetic and asthmatic.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4743 "2020-09-13T04:07:18Z")

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28,943,521 total cases  
924,575 dead  
20,811,312 recovered

In the US:

6,676,601 total cases  
198,128 dead  
3,950,354 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 28,659,610 total cases  
> 919,715 dead  
> 20,585,981 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 6,636,247 total cases  
> 197,421 dead  
> 3,917,962 recovered

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**Author:** ![Courk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Courk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Courk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4744 "2020-09-13T04:29:58Z")

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The AstraZeneca trial is restarting:

> **[AstraZeneca Resumes Its COVID-19 Vaccine Trials In The U.K.](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/12/912281381/astrazeneca-resumes-its-covid-19-vaccine-trials-in-the-u-k)**
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> The company had placed its worldwide vaccine trials on hold for several days. It now says a safety review by regulators and reviewers is complete. No word on when studies in the U.S. might resume.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4745 "2020-09-13T05:19:18Z")

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Oahu’s two-week lockdown, which was to have ended this past Thursday, got extended two more weeks, to no one’s surprise.

Hawaii’s lieutenant governor, who is an MD, tested positive for Covid last night.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4746 "2020-09-13T15:55:57Z")

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In that regard this is also good news.

> **[Pfizer and BioNTech announce plan to expand Covid-19 vaccine trial](https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/12/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-plan-to-expand-covid-19-vaccine-trial/)**
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> The move could allow the companies to collect more safety and efficacy data and to increase the diversity of the study’s participants.

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> The companies also said that the change will allow the study to include a more diverse population. The companies said the study will now include adolescents as young as 16, people with stable HIV, and those with hepatitis C or hepatitis B.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4747 "2020-09-13T19:18:32Z")

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Pfizer CEO was interviewed on CBS News. [Pfizer CEO says company will know if vaccine works by end of October - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-pfizer-october-face-the-nation/)

They are expanding the trial in part because they have confidence in the safety of their vaccine candidate.

He further stated that they are 60% certain that they will know if their vaccine is effective by the end of October. He emphasized that this is not a 60% certainty that the vaccine will prove effective, only that they will know whether or not it is.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4748 "2020-09-14T01:23:56Z")

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The latest Covid victim: Peeps! [No Peeps for Halloween or Christmas.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/business/no-peeps-this-year-production-pause-trnd/index.html) Will this madness never end?

The wife and I visited the US around Easter one year in the’90s and took a load of Easter candy back for her family. It was mostly a hit, all except the Peeps, which they thought were creepy as all get out.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4749 "2020-09-14T04:01:42Z")

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29,182,627 total cases  
928,281 dead  
21,027,197 recovered

In the US:

6,708,458 total cases  
198,520 dead  
3,974,949 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 28,943,521 total cases  
> 924,575 dead  
> 20,811,312 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 6,676,601 total cases  
> 198,128 dead  
> 3,950,354 recovered

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4750 "2020-09-14T06:49:32Z")

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Chinese virologist who defected from China, claims on recent ITV show that not only was the outbreak initially surpressed by the Chinese gov’t (which is universally understood), but also that it was, in fact, originated, man made, in a lab. Apparently in next couple of days her and a colleague will put out a two-part report that will explain the genome sequence responsible for the virus’s genesis.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7Lq3_rsBJ9w/maxresdefault.jpg "Virologist Dr. Li-Meng Yan Claims Coronavirus Lab 'Cover-Up' Made Her Flee China | Loose Women") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lq3_rsBJ9w)

Still sniffin’er out.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4751 "2020-09-14T15:55:18Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Apparently in next couple of days her and a colleague will put out a two-part report that will explain the genome sequence responsible for the virus’s genesis.

She’s been here for over two months and I can’t find any credible news source backing her up, probably because she keeps claiming that she has proof and keeps telling us that the proof will be here any day now. For now, I’ll withhold final judgment, but she’s definitely going about this in the wrong way.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4752 "2020-09-14T16:02:06Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> > Apparently in next couple of days her and a colleague will put out a two-part report that will explain the genome sequence responsible for the virus’s genesis.
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> She’s been here for over two months and I can’t find any credible news source backing her up, probably because she keeps claiming that she has proof and keeps telling us that the proof will be here any day now. For now, I’ll withhold final judgment, but she’s definitely going about this … the wrong way.

This might be a little too cynical … but have any of these “_Now we have THE TRUTH about COVID-19!_” videos ever panned out? Seems like dang near every video about COVID that people “just have to watch” is hooey. Will someone on YouTube really ever scoop legitimate old-line news sources?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4753 "2020-09-14T16:36:50Z")

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Hallelujah! Today Panama lifted most of the movement restrictions that have been in place since March 18. Now we are allowed to go out between 5 AM-11 PM Monday-Saturday. A curfew remains from 11 PM-5 AM and all day Sunday. This will be a great relief. I no longer have to plan my week based on the few hours I was allowed to go out. (Some of the former restrictions remain in place in some of the other provinces, which I think are now accounting for many of the new cases.) They are reporting that 74,500 people were arrested for violations when the movement restrictions were in place. Most of the arrests took place in the first few months before people got used to the restrictions.

We also no longer need safe-conduct passes to travel to other parts of the country. However, recreational travel is supposedly still not permitted, and most hotels will remain closed until October 12. International flights will also be allowed to resume on that date, and the remaining curfews will be lifted then.

Various sectors of the economy will be reopening each week for the next month. Restaurants can resume in-person service on September 28.

All this depends on keeping the virus within limits. Average number of new cases has dropped to less than 700 per day, and deaths to 11 per day. The last time I saw the R0 published it was about 0.85.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4754 "2020-09-14T18:30:34Z")

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Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade will go on as planned, sorta.

> **[Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade To Be Presented As NBC Television Special: No...](https://deadline.com/2020/09/macys-thanksgiving-day-parade-virtual-television-online-bill-de-blasio-1234576226/)**
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> UPDATE, with additional details A signature kick-off for the holiday season – the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade – will go virtual this year, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio announc…

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4755 "2020-09-14T18:32:58Z")

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How are they going to simulate character balloons getting away and/or crashing into the crowd?

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4756 "2020-09-14T21:16:45Z")

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Didn’t see this posted here - what do you all think?

“Northwestern University researchers have uncovered a new vulnerability in the novel coronavirus’ infamous spike protein — illuminating a relatively simple, potential treatment pathway.”

> **[Research exposes new vulnerability in SARS-CoV-2](https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2020/08/research-exposes-new-vulnerability-in-sars-cov-2/?fbclid=IwAR3ZPVaV5Lg363PZMgUL5EMIN02gcrmS0tfA4WQRignsrGXgr8c4J0zyr_Y)**
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> Electrostatic interactions enhance the spike protein’s bond to host cells

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4757 "2020-09-14T22:44:08Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> It was mostly a hit, all except the Peeps, which they thought were creepy as all get out.

According to the main character in the webcomic Erfworld, the best time to eat peeps is half a year after Easter. By then they’re crunchy.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4758 "2020-09-14T22:47:20Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Apparently in next couple of days her and a colleague will put out a two-part report that will explain the genome sequence responsible for the virus’s genesis.

Anyone can make up a sequence. I wouldn’t believe anything unless she was able to steal the virus itself and a credible lab in the US sequenced it.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4759 "2020-09-15T04:05:38Z")

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29,445,683 total cases  
932,744 dead  
21,279,830 recovered

In the US:

6,749,289 total cases  
199,000 dead  
4,027,826 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 29,182,627 total cases  
> 928,281 dead  
> 21,027,197 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 6,708,458 total cases  
> 198,520 dead  
> 3,974,949 recovered

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**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4760 "2020-09-15T08:18:51Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Chinese virologist who defected from China, claims on recent ITV show that not only was the outbreak initially surpressed by the Chinese gov’t (which is universally understood), but also that it was, in fact, originated, man made, in a lab. Apparently in next couple of days her and a colleague will put out a two-part report that will explain the genome sequence responsible for the virus’s genesis.

I found this article fascinating:

> **[Could COVID-19 Have Escaped from a Lab?](https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2020/09/09/alina-chan-broad-institute-coronavirus/)**
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> The Broad Institute's Alina Chan believes it could have.

Lots of detective type stuff there, if you’re into that sort of thing.

I’ve heard some people claim that it should raise eyebrows that no one has yet found the virus in the wild in bats or pangolins or wherever. Not sure if that’s a valid point, though, as I don’t imagine there is a lot of such hunting going on. But then again, I don’t know how long it took to find out SARS came from camels or what have you.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4761 "2020-09-15T08:19:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> In the US:
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> 6,749,289 total cases  
> 199,000 dead

Looks like the US will be over 200,000 dead tomorrow. Not that these round number milestones really mean that much.

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