# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4762 "2020-09-15T12:20:29Z")

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It’s been sequenced in dozens, if not hundreds, of labs. That’s why they are able to say that New York was probably infected from Europe, not directly from China.

And according to articles i read very early in the pandemic (and no longer remember where I read them) none of the sequenced viruses had the “tells” that man-made generic sequences have with it current gene-editing tools.

So i think it’s extremely unlikely that it’s man-made. And there are lots of bats out there. I don’t think it’s at all surprising that they haven’t found this precise virus in a wild animal.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4763 "2020-09-15T13:19:13Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > In the US:
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> > > 6,749,289 total cases  
> > > 199,000 dead
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> Looks like the US will be over 200,000 dead tomorrow. Not that these round number milestones really mean that much.

Kind of like watching the odometer roll over in your car.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4764 "2020-09-15T15:20:41Z")

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Well, I read her (first) paper just now. Guess I’ll wait for others to tell me what I think about it. I don’t expect to be particularly compelled, but I’m certainly keeping my ears open.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4765 "2020-09-15T16:19:04Z")

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Maine:

> **[Virus death toll linked to Maine wedding grows to 7](https://apnews.com/article/maine-virus-outbreak-public-health-weddings-263d072466b2152f175c24f7775b00df)**
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> PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — At least seven people have died in connection to a coronavirus outbreak that continues to sicken people in Maine following a wedding reception held over the summer that violated state virus guidelines, public health authorities...

> [@](#):
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> The August wedding reception at the Big Moose Inn in Millinocket is linked to more than 175 confirmed cases of the virus, the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday.
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> Maine authorities have identified overlaps between the wedding reception and outbreaks elsewhere in the state. An employee of the York County Jail attended the wedding, Maine CDC officials have said. Maine health officials have also said a staff member from a Madison rehabilitation center, which is the site of four of the five deaths, attended the event.
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> The virus cases stemming from the wedding have spanned hundreds of miles in a state that had largely controlled the spread of the coronavirus through the summer. Maine has reported less than 5,000 cases of the virus in total since March.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4766 "2020-09-15T16:22:39Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Maine health officials have also said a staff member from a Madison rehabilitation center, which is the site of four of the five deaths, attended the event. -

If and when they get divorced, who gets custody of the blame?

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4767 "2020-09-15T16:34:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> If and when they get divorced, who gets custody of the blame?

Donald J. Trump

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4768 "2020-09-15T17:09:37Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> It’s been sequenced in dozens, if not hundreds, of labs. That’s why they are able to say that New York was probably infected from Europe, not directly from China.
> 
> And according to articles i read very early in the pandemic (and no longer remember where I read them) none of the sequenced viruses had the “tells” that man-made generic sequences have with it current gene-editing tools.
> 
> So i think it’s extremely unlikely that it’s man-made. And there are lots of bats out there. I don’t think it’s at all surprising that they haven’t found this precise virus in a wild animal.

Exactly.

1. If it was completely man-made, there are cloning sequences for designing the genome that you can look for. So, unless they took the time to “cover their tracks”, those sequences would be there.

2. Alternatively, they could have been studying the evolution of real coronaviruses in the lab. If someone from the lab got infected, they could spread it outside. In that case, I assume it would look like a natural coronavirus. The lab director in Wuhan said none of the current strains match the strains they were working on. I suppose she’s lying but China has now traced the origin outside of Wuhan. I suppose they’re lying. For all we know, the lady in the video is Falun Gong or some other dissident with an understandable axe to grind. Doesn’t mean it’s true. So again, if China’s hiding something, this lady needs to pony up and give an independent lab the virus.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4769 "2020-09-15T17:12:56Z")

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> if China’s hiding something, this lady needs to pony up and give an independent lab the virus.

What would that prove? Maybe she had a sick person cough on a petri dish. What proof could Dr. Li-Meng Yan provide that her claims are true?

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4770 "2020-09-15T17:15:43Z")

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> [@tofor](#):
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> What would that prove? Maybe she had a sick person cough on a petri dish. What proof could Dr. Li-Meng Yan provide that her claims are true?

Actually, that’s a good point. Even if this was a virus that was slightly different than the ones we have now, how can she prove it came from a lab and not a person? Nope, she’s got nothin’.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4772 "2020-09-15T19:00:05Z")

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> If it was completely man-made, there are cloning sequences for designing the genome that you can look for. So, unless they took the time to “cover their tracks”, those sequences would be there.

I’m curious how many people there are in the world who know how to identify those cloning sequences. This seems like quite a niche field. I can’t say that I have my mind fully wrapped around what it is they _do_ at those gain-of-function labs, though, or exactly why they do it.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4773 "2020-09-15T19:44:13Z")

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> [@SayTwo](#):
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> I’m curious how many people there are in the world who know how to identify those cloning sequences. This seems like quite a niche field. I can’t say that I have my mind fully wrapped around what it is they _do_ at those gain-of-function labs, though, or exactly why they do it.

Building genomes or parts of genomes is extremely common. So much so that you can buy kits to do it.

If you really wanted to hide your tracks you could do these nested polymerase chain reactions to create sequences whole cloth. I haven’t been doing research in a long time, so I don’t know what people can currently do. However, you’d have to make it look like a virus that evolved naturally.

You could also take a current virus and speed up natural selection in the lab. That’s what I’m calling a natural virus that’s being studied in the lab. Again, this is not unusual for microbial research since you can easily put pressure on your microbes to mutate. The hard part is getting what you want on purpose : human to human transmission. That you’d have to test and even on animals requires a research program. I suspect that this is what they’re studying in the Wuhan lab they say none of their strains escaped.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4774 "2020-09-16T03:55:51Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Chinese virologist who defected from China, claims on recent ITV show that not only was the outbreak initially surpressed by the Chinese gov’t (which is universally understood), but also that it was, in fact, originated, man made, in a lab. Apparently in next couple of days her and a colleague will put out a two-part report that will explain the genome sequence responsible for the virus’s genesis.  
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lq3\_rsBJ9w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lq3_rsBJ9w)
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> Still sniffin’er out.

> [@DMC](#):
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> She’s been here for over two months and I can’t find any credible news source backing her up, probably because she keeps claiming that she has proof and keeps telling us that the proof will be here any day now. For now, I’ll withhold final judgment, but she’s definitely going about this in the wrong way.

Well, she still hasn’t found a credible news source to back her up, but [she did appear on Fucker Carlson’s show tonight (6:36 video)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFlqXPl_hZQ).

And she published a 26 page report? paper? essay? yesterday too: [Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route](https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X2EN_2gzbIW)

I also found [this article](https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/15/latest_news/1600196698_232755.html), which offers some choice quotes at the end:

> [@](#):
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> In its summary, the report says that “the genome sequence of SARS-CoV-2 has likely undergone genetic engineering, " **through which the virus has gained the ability to target humans with enhanced virulence and infectivity.** ”
> 
> The report also claims that the novel coronavirus has been adapted by **already-identified naturally occurring coronaviruses in bats by the Chinese military**.
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> The research follows “three lines of evidence” that Yan and her team say demonstrate Covid-19 is a lab-based virus.

> [@](#):
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> The first of these states: “ **The genomic sequence of SARS-CoV-2 is suspiciously similar to that of a bat coronavirus discovered by military laboratories** in the Third Military Medical University (Chongqing, China) and the Research Institute for Medicine of Nanjing Command (Nanjing, China.”
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> The second line of evidence presented goes on to say: “The receptor-binding motif (RBM) within the Spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which determines the host specificity of the virus, resembles that of SARS-CoV from the 2003 epidemic in a suspicious manner. **Genomic evidence suggests that the RBM has been genetically manipulated.”**
> 
> The third finding laid out by Yan and her team states: “SARS-CoV-2 contains a unique furin-cleavage site in its Spike protein, which is known to greatly enhance viral infectivity and cell tropism. Yet, this cleavage site is completely absent in this particular class of coronaviruses found in nature. **In addition, rare codons associated with this additional sequence suggest the strong possibility that this furin-cleavage site is not the product of natural evolution** and could have been inserted into the SARS-CoV-2 genome artificially by techniques other than simple serial passage or multi-strain recombination events inside co-infected tissue cultures or animals.”

…and…

> [@](#):
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> In summary, Yan and her team suggest that the novel coronavirus was developed “ **as a laboratory product created by using bat coronaviruses ZC45 and/or ZXC21 as a template and/or backbone**.”
> 
> **The report states that “ZC45 and ZXC21 were discovered between July 2015 and February 2017** and isolated and characterized by the aforementioned military research laboratories.” It also says that when a non-military lab, the **Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre, published a _Nature_ article** reporting “a conflicting close phylogenetic relationship between SARS-CoV-2 and ZC45/ZXC2 rather than with RaTG13, was quickly shut down for ‘rectification.’”
> 
> **The report also accuses several publications of bowing to political pressure or of experiencing “conflicts of interest” so as not to publish findings that differ from the natural origin theory**. “The existing scientific publications supporting a natural origin theory rely heavily on a single piece of evidence – a previously discovered bat coronavirus named RaTG13, which shares a 96% nucleotide sequence identity with SARS-CoV-2,” the report states.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4775 "2020-09-16T04:05:44Z")

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29,727,253 total cases  
939,185 dead  
21,542,359 recovered

In the US:

6,788,147 total cases  
200,197 dead  
4,068,086 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 29,445,683 total cases  
> 932,744 dead  
> 21,279,830 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 6,749,289 total cases  
> 199,000 dead  
> 4,027,826 recovered

The world will prolly go past 30,000,000 total cases tomorrow.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4776 "2020-09-16T04:41:35Z")

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Thanks, **Bo** , for fleshing what I should have, earlier, in my post on the Chinese virologist.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4777 "2020-09-16T04:45:58Z")

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You’re welcome, but there’s no way you could have posted all that I did: it was all published after you posted about her.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4778 "2020-09-16T10:07:24Z")

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“A new study purporting to show that the novel coronavirus was manufactured in a Chinese lab was [published](https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X1_G1mhKg2z) by a pair of nonprofit groups linked to Steve Bannon, the former top Trump strategist now facing felony fraud charges.”

> **[Steve Bannon Is Behind Bogus Study That China Created COVID](https://news.yahoo.com/steve-bannon-linked-groups-push-191602344.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)**
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> A new study purporting to show that the novel coronavirus was manufactured in a Chinese lab was published by a pair of nonprofit groups linked to Steve Bannon, the former top Trump strategist now facing felony fraud charges.The study, co-authored by...

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4779 "2020-09-16T11:42:45Z")

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And Bannon was arrested while visiting a chinese fugative on board said fugatives 28 million dollar yacht. No, nothing to see here.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4780 "2020-09-16T12:12:00Z")

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> **[If You've Just Had Covid, Exercise Might Not Be Good for You](https://www.wired.com/story/if-youve-just-had-covid-exercise-might-not-be-good-for-you/?bxid=5f2c7569f4a95b41006fc9ac&cndid=61802469&esrc=bouncexmulti_first&mbid=mbid%3DCRMWIR012019%0A%0A&source=EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_content=A&utm_mailing=WIR_Daily_091520&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nl&utm_term=list1_p4)**
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> A growing number of studies are raising concerns about the coronavirus’ long-term effects on the heart. Athletes especially need to heed the warnings.

> … Data from initial outbreaks in China, New York City, and Washington state suggested that [20 to 30 percent](https://www.heartrhythmjournal.com/article/S1547-5271(20)30625-1/fulltext#tbl1) of patients hospitalized with Covid-19 showed signs of cardiac injury.
> 
> That these patients tended to get sicker and died more often than patients without cardiac complications didn’t set off immediate alarm bells. These were, after all, people with serious cases of Covid-19—serious enough to wind up in the hospital. Most people who contract the virus experience [a spectrum of less-severe symptoms](https://www.wired.com/story/why-does-covid-19-make-some-people-so-sick-ask-their-dna/). As many as one in three [never feel sick](https://www.wired.com/story/whats-confusing-about-calling-covid-19-cases-asymptomatic/). **But now, evidence is emerging that the virus can cause heart damage even in people who’ve had mild symptoms or none at all, especially if those people exercise while they’re infected.**  
> …
> 
> And these problems don’t just affect athletes. [A larger observational study](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916?guestAccessKey=698ebd4c-5c29-4069-9ef6-8839bcbc07de&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=072720) conducted in Germany earlier this summer followed 100 non-athlete Covid-19 patients and found lingering heart inflammation and other cardiac abnormalities in 78 of them. According to Eric Topol, a US-based cardiologist who corresponded with the study’s authors, 12 of those people had no symptoms of Covid-19 at all. And while the study was later [corrected](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2770024) for statistical errors, its authors [confirmed](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2770026) that the main conclusions still stood: **Even a mild course of Covid-19 could harm the heart.**  
> …

My bold.

This is way scary news. What if you keep exercising, but you don’t know you have COVID? Right.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> “A new study purporting to show that the novel coronavirus was manufactured in a Chinese lab was [published](https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X1_G1mhKg2z) by a pair of nonprofit groups linked to Steve Bannon, the former top Trump strategist now facing felony fraud charges.”  
> [https://news.yahoo.com/steve-bannon-linked-groups-push-191602344.html?utm\_source=fark&utm\_medium=website&utm\_content=link&ICID=ref\_fark](https://news.yahoo.com/steve-bannon-linked-groups-push-191602344.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)

Ah I see, interesting, thanks. Not that I’m the _slightest_ bit surprised at this, given the story was, at first, sourced only from youtube and an Indian newspaper, and nowhere else, hence more ‘sniffing out’ certainly coming to eventual light.

[quote] **from link** :  
The study is the work of the Rule of Law Society and the Rule of Law Foundation, sister nonprofit organizations that Bannon was instrumental in creating. According to documents posted on the Society’s website last year, he served as that group’s chair. The Bannon connection was [first spotted](https://twitter.com/itsbirdemic/status/1305711999582695426) by Kevin Bird, a Ph.D. candidate at Michigan State University, and shared by Carl Bergstrom, a biology professor at the University of Washington, who [called the study](https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1305743494913245184) “bizarre and unfounded.” [/quote]

ETA: scratching my head as to how that quote didn’t come out boxed.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4782 "2020-09-16T14:50:43Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> ETA: scratching my head as to how that quote didn’t come out boxed.

The “quote” tags both need to be on their own separate line

[quote=“Guest-starring\_Id, post:4781, topic:847758”]ETA: scratching my head as to how that quote didn’t come out boxed.  
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[quote=“Guest-starring\_Id, post:4781, topic:847758”]  
ETA: scratching my head as to how that quote didn’t come out boxed.[/quote]

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