# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/461 "2020-03-09T21:35:05Z")
Would like to note that for those who still doubt the severity of the situation because ‘well, more people die from the flu’, countries don’t go into lockdown because of flu season, tyvm. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/462 "2020-03-09T22:43:20Z")
The [_Diamond Princess_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Princess_(ship)) is British-registered. So, shouldn’t their numbers be included in the UK numbers? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/463 "2020-03-09T22:48:59Z")
Princeton University is telling its students not to come back from spring break, classes will be handled online. > **[Princeton University Cancels All In-Person Classes, Encourages Students to...](https://wpst.com/princeton-university-cancels-all-in-person-classes-encourages-students-to-stay-home-after-spring-break/)** > > Princeton University is encouraging all students to stay home after their upcoming Spring Break, and they say that they will NOT be holding in-person lectures or seminars after this week. Fordham University has canceled classes. > **[Fordham University shuts down classes amid coronavirus scare](https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-fordham-coronavirus-online-classes-20200309-5rxsghditvd4rcwpzniiiutz2q-story.html)** > > Students at Fordham University were sent home Monday and classes were instructed online amid a coronavirus scare after an undergraduate commuter student exhibited symptoms consistent with the disease. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/464 "2020-03-09T22:57:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The [_Diamond Princess_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Princess_(ship)) is British-registered. So, shouldn’t their numbers be included in the UK numbers? Since many of the passengers aren’t British, this seems like it would be meaningless for understanding how many cases are in a country once repatriated (though arguably one might want to reflect the vector of transmission as well). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/465 "2020-03-10T00:57:10Z")
Yeah, I know. But that really does seem to show the ineffectiveness, in today’s world, of just going by national boundaries. I suppose one could break the numbers down by "new cases in _x_ region, cases now in _x_ region returning from _y_ region. Of course that would create some major political fallout and I bet there’s not a politician on the planet, especially a politician in office, who would want to face that. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/466 "2020-03-10T01:17:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Would like to note that for those who still doubt the severity of the situation because ‘well, more people die from the flu’, countries don’t go into lockdown because of flu season, tyvm. I prefer countries that don’t go on lockdown. This is 'murica, not some country full of pasta-eating quarantine monkeys! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/467 "2020-03-10T01:40:47Z")
“Pasta Eating Quarantine Monkeys” Band name! ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/468 "2020-03-10T01:44:28Z")
[Interesting study](https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2762808/incubation-period-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-from-publicly-reported) in the _Annals of Internal Medicine_. They found that the median length of time from exposure to showing sx was 5.1 days and almost all infected showed sx by 12 days. This is a good argument for 14 day quarantine. Lots of limitations of course. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/469 "2020-03-10T01:53:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Princeton University is telling its students not to come back from spring break, classes will be handled online. > [Princeton University Cancels All In-Person Classes, Encourages Students to Stay Home After Spring Break](https://wpst.com/princeton-university-cancels-all-in-person-classes-encourages-students-to-stay-home-after-spring-break/) > > Fordham University has canceled classes. > [Coronavirus fears shut down Fordham University classes](https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-fordham-coronavirus-online-classes-20200309-5rxsghditvd4rcwpzniiiutz2q-story.html) We just had a meeting today about how to handle classes if our university decides to do the same before students come back from break. The campus visits our online students normally make in April and May are also cancelled - all that will now be done online. I’m the online coordinator for our department, so this is getting pretty stressful already! ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/470 "2020-03-10T01:57:24Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I prefer countries that don’t go on lockdown. This is 'murica, not some country full of pasta-eating quarantine monkeys! The Italians [invented it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarantine#Middle_Ages_and_Renaissance)! > [@](#): > > The word “quarantine” originates from the Venetian dialect form of the Italian quaranta giorni, meaning “forty days”. This is due to the 40-day isolation of ships and people practiced as a measure of disease prevention related to the plague. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/471 "2020-03-10T02:03:03Z")
Is there any place that runs down the details of the Italian “lockdown”? I’m wondering stuff like how it’s enforced, how far the limitations go, whether food and other goods are allowed, etc, and I haven’t really found details beyond “this is happening, and it’s ominous.” ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/472 "2020-03-10T02:05:28Z")
The nursing home near Seattle is finally starting to be able to test residents. They received the results of 35 tests today. 3 inconclusive, 1 negative, 31 positive. 31 out of 35. There are a remaining 20 residents awaiting testing. [News conference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4t55tdtMqk), the pertinent info is in the first 2 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/473 "2020-03-10T02:08:46Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Is there any place that runs down the details of the Italian “lockdown”? I’m wondering stuff like how it’s enforced, how far the limitations go, whether food and other goods are allowed, etc, and I haven’t really found details beyond “this is happening, and it’s ominous.” One of our posters, PookahMacPhellimey, lives in Northern Italy. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/474 "2020-03-10T02:17:50Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > The nursing home near Seattle is finally starting to be able to test residents. They received the results of 35 tests today. 3 inconclusive, 1 negative, 31 positive. > 31 out of 35. > There are a remaining 20 residents awaiting testing. > > [News conference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4t55tdtMqk), the pertinent info is in the first 2 minutes. I wonder how many resident deaths have been attributed to pneumonia when the ultimate cause was COVID-19. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/475 "2020-03-10T02:27:28Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I wonder how many resident deaths have been attributed to pneumonia when the ultimate cause was COVID-19. There was a story several days ago saying something similar, but I haven’t seen it verified. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/476 "2020-03-10T02:41:36Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I am not in the risk group, but I have parents who are in their 60’s, with (controlled) diabetes and hypertension. I am rather fond of them and this thread is fucking terrifying. It is seriously terrifying. My father is 86, and lives in a facility for people with dementia or Alzheimer’s. If the bug gets loose in there, the results will not be good, to say the least. I’m 60. Don’t know if that puts me in a high-risk group. I live in New York City. I ride the subways every day. My very large law firm (multinational) has suspended all travel, although no offices have been closed as of yet. We’re being issue laptops loaded will all the necessary software and we’ve been told that we may get a call any time saying that everyone should work from home. I have, despite my age, three very young children (six, three and four months). I’m concerned, of course, about them, althought I know that at least the older two aren’t in the highest risk groups. On a practical level, if New York City closes its schools, well, my oldest daughter is in first grade. If day care places are closed, then my younger daughter is home, too. And if our part-time nanny gets sick, or is otherwise unable to come every day, we have a child care problem with the infant, too. Better stuck at home, if necessary, than catching the bug at school/day care, but the practical difficulties are huge. And if either my wife or I gets it? Then what? Move out for the duration, so as to reduce the risk of exposing the children and/or the other parent? To where? A hotel, I guess, if a hotel is possible. I really am worried. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/477 "2020-03-10T05:02:40Z")
Santa Clara County, California, just officially banned all gatherings of more than 1000 people through the end of March. That includes sports events and concerts. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/478 "2020-03-10T05:04:53Z")
[Santa Clara County has banned large gatherings](https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/coronavirus/santa-clara-county-bans-mass-gatherings-after-coronavirus-death/2251123/) where large means \> 1000. This does not include malls and schools, but does include concerts and sporting events. The San Jose Sharks can play, just not to a full house. If we were in football season this would extend to 49ers games also. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/479 "2020-03-10T05:30:53Z")
114,430 confirmed infections 4,027 dead 64,093 recovered In the US: 708 confirmed infections 27 dead 15 recovered HOWEVER… the Johns Hopkins site differs slightly, showing 754 confirmed infections in the US. I note that the Johns Hopkins site has also had to stop putting dots on cities and instead is just listing state totals. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/480 "2020-03-10T08:24:12Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > I’m 60. Don’t know if that puts me in a high-risk group. That puts you in a higher risk group, although greater than 95% of people in that demographic seem to recover. The other thing to consider is whether or not you have any other risk factors, like heart disease, diabetes, or respiratory problems. That said, you could still have a mild case of this illness. People should not be too complacent regarding age and risk - definitely there have been some relatively young people (30’s) who up until catching this virus have been healthy who have had very serious illness from this. > [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > I have, despite my age, three very young children (six, three and four months). I’m concerned, of course, about them, althought I know that at least the older two aren’t in the highest risk groups. None of them are in high risk groups. Of course, we worry about infants, but this seems to be a disease that affects children less than adults. > [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > And if our part-time nanny gets sick, or is otherwise unable to come every day, we have a child care problem with the infant, too. Better stuck at home, if necessary, than catching the bug at school/day care, but the practical difficulties are huge. If you’re all at home wouldn’t you and your wife be there to take care of the infant? I realize, of course, that “infant care” and “working from home” would be a quite a juggle > [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > And if either my wife or I gets it? Then what? Move out for the duration, so as to reduce the risk of exposing the children and/or the other parent? To where? A hotel, I guess, if a hotel is possible. If one of you gets it then everyone living with that person has already been exposed. Again, many people have had relatively mild illness from this - they don’t feel good, but they can still function to take care of themselves and other family members. > [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > I really am worried. Understandably. I hope that for you and your family the worst is two weeks of cabin fever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=25)