# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 249
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4983 "2020-09-30T22:30:35Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > Never mind.- This is the most appropriate comment so far in this Escher-drawing of a discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4984 "2020-10-01T04:03:31Z")
34,159,055 total cases 1,018,791 dead 25,430,443 recovered In the US: 7,447,282 total cases 211,740 dead 4,699,706 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 33,843,979 total cases > 1,012,657 dead > 25,148,268 recovered > > In the US: > > 7,406,146 total cases > 210,785 dead > 4,648,683 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4985 "2020-10-01T06:18:45Z")
> **[A COVID-19 vaccine may come without a needle, the latest vaccine to protect...](https://theconversation.com/a-covid-19-vaccine-may-come-without-a-needle-the-latest-vaccine-to-protect-without-jabbing-146564)** > > The way we deliver vaccines continues to evolve. Here’s a look at needle-free vaccine technologies from history to the modern day. > [@](#): > > The University of Sydney recently received [federal government funding](https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/further-investment-in-three-new-australian-covid-19-vaccine-research-projects) to commence [human trials](https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2020/09/24/university-of-sydney-to-advance-covid-19-dna-vaccine-to--human-t.html?tc=edm%7Cnews-opinion-stream-brnd%7Cuniversity%7C%7C) using a “liquid jet” injector to deliver its DNA-vaccine. > > Liquid jet injectors use small volumes of liquid forced through a tiny opening (smaller than a human hair). This ultra-fine high pressure stream penetrates the skin where cells then take up the vaccine and stimulate immune cells. > > This method was effective in several clinical trials against [HIV](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21857901/) and is currently used to deliver some [influenza vaccines](https://pharmajet.com/fda-approved-needleless-flu-shot/). > > Other needle-free COVID-19 vaccines in development include a [bandaid-like patch](https://www.fiercebiotech.com/research/covid-19-vaccine-packed-into-skin-patch-shows-promise-mice) made up of 400 tiny needles, a [nasal vaccine](https://gulfnews.com/world/needle-free-nasal-covid-19-vaccine-more-effective-1.1598537121980), an oral vaccine as a [tablet](https://www.technologynetworks.com/biopharma/blog/oral-vaccine-for-covid-19-on-track-towards-human-clinical-trials-335335), and a [needle-free device](https://pharmajet.com/pharmajet-and-abnova-partner-to-develop-and-deliver-covid-19-mrna-vaccine-using-needle-free-injection-technology/) that delivers an mRNA vaccine. > > Vaccines based on mRNA [work in similar ways](https://theconversation.com/eyeing-local-development-a-look-at-the-3-australian-covid-vaccine-candidates-to-receive-a-government-boost-146567) to DNA vaccines. If the vaccine does come in a needle free form, would it be possible to administer without going to a hospital or even by the patient themselves? If people could get the vaccine delivered to them and administer it to themselves, people might avoid the risk of contagion from getting the virus at the doctor’s office. I haven’t thought through all the downsides and the ramifications, just wondering if something like this would be possible. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4986 "2020-10-01T06:34:42Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > If the vaccine does come in a needle free form, would it be possible to administer without going to a hospital or even by the patient themselves? People with diabetes self administer injections all the time. A major reason for going to a doctor or a nurse is because many kinds of injections are known to (rarely) cause dangerous side effects. This COVID vaccine is a candidate for needle-free because it is injected into the skin, not into a muscle or into the blood stream. And it won’t have the problem that some vaccines have that are grown in a host. But there still might be a bad reaction to the adjuvant ??? But small-pox vaccination was just done by scratching, and polio vaccination was just done on sugar cubes, and both of those were still normally done by a nurse. ---
**Author:** ![Courk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Courk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Courk)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4987 "2020-10-01T12:15:12Z")
There’s also the risk of doing it wrong. People with diabetes get training on how to do their injections, and they’re done multiple times a day. I’ve never done a needleless “injection” but I would assume it has to be held right up next to the skin – how much risk is there that people with no training, no education on how the administration technology works, and only doing it one time, are going to hold it too far away and essentially just wash their arm with vaccine fluid? ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4988 "2020-10-01T12:30:53Z")
> [@Courk](#): > > how much risk is there that people with no training, no education on how the administration technology works, and only doing it one time, are going to hold it too far away and essentially just wash their arm with vaccine fluid? I don’t know the answer to that, but the risk of the spread of infection is higher if people don’t attempt it at all because they don’t want to go to their doctor’s office to get the vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4989 "2020-10-01T12:56:58Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > I don’t know the answer to that, but the risk of the spread of infection is higher if people don’t attempt it at all because they don’t want to go to their doctor’s office to get the vaccine. My doctor’s office just offered drive-thru flu shots. They set up a large pop-up tent outside with a lane in their parking lot on a recent Saturday morning. All three people in my household got our flu shots, and we never even got out of the car. We all had masks on, and just rested our arms on the car windowsills while a nurse on each side of the vehicle administered flu shots. I see no reason why they can’t do the same thing with a COVID-19 vaccine. ETA: One possible difficulty might be very stringent cold storage requirements of some vaccine candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4990 "2020-10-01T17:06:24Z")
> **[Cornell study: Trump is biggest source of coronavirus misinformation](https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/10/cornell-study-president-trump-is-biggest-source-of-coronavirus-misinformation.html)** > > Conspiracy theories and "miracle cures" like hydroxychloroquine. > [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-misinformation.html) reports Cornell researchers analyzed 38 million articles about the Covid-19 article in English-language media around the world. Mentions of Trump accounted for 37.9% of the overall “misinformation conversation,” making him the largest driver of the “infodemic,” they concluded. > > “The biggest surprise was that the president of the United States was the single largest driver of misinformation around Covid,” Cornell Alliance for Science director Sarah Evanega, the study’s lead author, told the Times. “That’s concerning in that there are real-world dire health implications.” > > Even more concerning, researchers found only 16.4% of the misinformation was “fact checking” in nature, suggesting that the majority of the falsehoods were conveyed without question or correction. > > The [study](https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/evanega-et-al-coronavirus-misinformation-submitted-07-23-20-1/080839ac0c22bca8/full.pdf), released Thursday, is the first comprehensive examination of coronavirus misinformation in traditional and online media. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4991 "2020-10-01T18:04:34Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > A million dead! > Who would have thought > Our figureheads > Would come to naught? > Would go ahead - > All afterthoughts, > To fight the spread > With diddly squat. > With gingerbread > And counterplots. > With blunderheads > And tommyrot. > Just stay in bed > And don’t get caught. Love this! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4992 "2020-10-01T21:01:44Z")
> [@robby](#): > > My doctor’s office just offered drive-thru flu shots. They set up a large pop-up tent outside with a lane in their parking lot on a recent Saturday morning. All three people in my household got our flu shots, and we never even got out of the car… The county I work for is going to use there ‘bus barn’ for the same type of set up. It’s a small county ~25000 people. The bus barn has drive trough bays where they normally service public buses. This will give the nurses much better protection from the weather which can turn nasty real fast this time of year. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4993 "2020-10-02T00:42:51Z")
The CEO of Pfizer says they will not give in to political pressure to speed up development of a vaccine. > **[Covid vaccine trial 'moving at the speed of science,' not political pressure,...](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-ceo-says-covid-vaccine-trial-won-t-be-rushed-n1241737)** > > President Donald Trump has insisted that a coronavirus vaccine will be ready before Election Day. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4994 "2020-10-02T01:43:32Z")
“Hope Hicks, one of President Donald Trump’s closest aides, has tested positive for the coronavirus. Hicks, who serves as counselor to the president and traveled with him to a Wednesday rally, tested positive Thursday, according to an administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private health information. She is the closest aide to Trump to test positive so far.” > **[Trump Hospitalized With COVID-19, Starts Remdesivir Treatment](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/top-white-house-official-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/2347824/)** > > Stricken by COVID-19, a feverish and fatigued President Donald Trump was flown to a military hospital Friday night after being injected with an experimental drug combination in treatment at the White House. In a day of whipsaw events, the president,... ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4995 "2020-10-02T01:45:44Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > She is the closest aide to Trump to test positive so far.” - In unison everyone: **HOW CLOSE WAS SHE?** ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4996 "2020-10-02T02:46:16Z")
Was she close enough to infect the Great Denier? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4997 "2020-10-02T02:47:18Z")
Hoping. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4998 "2020-10-02T02:47:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Was she close enough to infect the Great Denier? It appears so. > [@](#): > > Hope Hicks, a close adviser to President Trump who traveled with him several times this week aboard Air Force One, has tested positive for the coronavirus, a senior administration official confirmed Thursday. > [@](#): > > Trump told Fox News’s Sean Hannity during a live interview Thursday night that he and first lady Melania Trump were tested after they learned about Hicks and were awaiting the results. > > “She tested positive and I just went out with a test . . . so whether we quarantine or whether we have it, I don’t know,” Trump said. “So I just went for a test and we’ll see what happens. Who knows? . . . We spend a lot of time with Hope, so we’ll see what happens.” > **[Trump says he and first lady have tested positive for the coronavirus](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hope-hicks-close-trump-aide-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/2020/10/01/af238f7c-0444-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html)** > > The president announced the diagnosis in a tweet hours after aide Hope Hicks was diagnosed with covid-19. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/4999 "2020-10-02T02:50:09Z")
That’s a hell of a lot of precaution for a hoax, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5000 "2020-10-02T03:59:44Z")
34,481,663 total cases 1,027,653 dead 25,670,610 recovered In the US: 7,494,671 total cases 212,660 dead 4,736,621 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 34,159,055 total cases > 1,018,791 dead > 25,430,443 recovered > > In the US: > > 7,447,282 total cases > 211,740 dead > 4,699,706 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5001 "2020-10-02T05:18:44Z")
Tr\*mp and Melania have indeed tested positive for Covid-19. [President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump test positive for Covid-19 | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5002 "2020-10-02T06:16:08Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p3G5IXn0K7A/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGH8gHygWMA8=&rs=AOn4CLC4c90xLyDdlrnSunfyksj1ejZyHA "Hampton the Hamster "The Hamsterdance Song"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3G5IXn0K7A) Why, yes, I am feeling petty and vindicated. I know he’ll get the best healthcare possible and sooner than us … civium? So even at his advanced age and somehow superhero health… odds aren’t all that great since Hope (Hoax) Hicks was showing symptoms the Wed. after the Great Fudd Debate . I’m still wondering who else was in the audience and backstage who didn’t bother with a mask. (I think I stole this video from someone here tonite) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=248) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=250)