# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 252
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5043 "2020-10-11T00:30:48Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Heh. As late as a couple years ago I’ve run into web sites for ordering stuff that failed at that. Incredibly annoying to go through the shopping process all the way to entering your address and have it refuse to accept your Massachusetts zip code with a snarky “must enter 5 digits.” Grrr. Interesting…I’ve been ordering things online here in New England since the late 1990s, and have never run into that that I can recall. (I do sometimes find that my zip code has been truncated in online databases, though, like on a membership roster.) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5044 "2020-10-11T04:06:23Z")
37,470,751 total cases 1,077,507 dead 28,115,866 recovered In the US: 7,945,505 total cases 219,282 dead 5,089,842 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 37,110,995 total cases > 1,072,712 dead > 27,897,034 recovered > > In the US: > > 7,894,478 total cases > 218,648 dead > 5,064,300 recovered ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5045 "2020-10-12T03:23:26Z")
Oof. This is…less than optimal. > **[Analysis Finds True Pandemic Death Toll Is Much Higher Than 200,000 in US](https://www.bu.edu/articles/2020/analysis-finds-true-pandemic-death-toll-is-much-higher-than-200000-in-us/)** > > Researchers say number of pandemic-related deaths is actually 36 percent higher than reported; disadvantaged communities hit even harder than thought ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5046 "2020-10-12T03:30:03Z")
The latest news in Arizona is that deaths are 22% higher this year than the same time last year. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5047 "2020-10-12T04:06:53Z")
37,748,234 total cases 1,081,443 dead 28,350,523 recovered In the US: 7,991,998 total cases 219,695 dead 5,128,162 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 37,470,751 total cases > 1,077,507 dead > 28,115,866 recovered > > In the US: > > 7,945,505 total cases > 219,282 dead > 5,089,842 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5048 "2020-10-12T05:16:43Z")
South Korea: > **[The Latest: S. Korea reports 97 new coronavirus cases](https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-pandemics-india-archive-fefbdcf72cafd86c34ecb989e70c4c33)** > > SEOUL, South Korea — South Korea has confirmed 97 new cases of the coronavirus, a modest uptick from the daily levels reported last week, just as officials ease social distancing restrictions after concluding that transmissions have slowed following... ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5049 "2020-10-12T16:09:05Z")
Looking at the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Site, I find the distressing news that as of yesterday, Oct 11, several states have had their highest number of reported cases ever, overtopping previous peaks. These states are: North Dakota South Dakota Montana Wyoming Wisconsin Illinois Indiana Nebraska Colorado Utah Idaho (actually on Oct 9 – it’s hone down slightly) Alaska Missouri Tennessee Oklahoma Kentucky (like Idaho, a couple of days ago) West Virginia North Carolina New Hampshire I have to admit, that last one surprised me – New Hampshire had been doing very well, and it’s not next to any other states where this new peak has been reached. But it’s had a big tourist influx lately. Besides, even in states where there’s not a new record high in reported cases, it’s going up. This includes the New England and Mid Atlantic States that had been keeping a lid on it for so long – Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhose Island, New York, and New Jersey are showing slow but undeniable rises in cases, as are most other states further west. > **[Have we flattened the curve in the US? - Johns Hopkins](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states)** > > Daily Confirmed Case Trends (7-Day Moving Average) in the US And this comes when TRump has been claiming that it’s going away > [@](#): > > “It is disappearing,” Trump said of the coronavirus, downplaying his own experience with the virus even though he was given oxygen and a steroid treatment, and making no mention of the more than 210,000 Americans that have died. > **[As coronavirus cases climb, Trump peddles false 'disappearing' pitch](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/coronavirus-cases-climb-trump-peddles-false-disappearing-pitch-n1242917)** > > There is no sane way to look at the landscape and see a viral threat that's "disappearing" -- and yet, there was the president, pushing the message anyway. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5050 "2020-10-12T18:20:38Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I have to admit, that last one surprised me – New Hampshire had been doing very well, and it’s not next to any other states where this new peak has been reached All through this NH has had problems containing outbreaks in long term care facilities, and about 1/3rd of the new peak day cases are from yet another of these long term care facility outbreaks. Lots of pediatric cases over the last week too (77), now accounting for over 15% of new cases. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5051 "2020-10-12T21:52:49Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Looking at the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Site, I find the distressing news that as of yesterday, Oct 11, several states have had their highest number of reported cases ever, overtopping previous peaks. These states are: Illinois the last handful of days is reporting more cases per day now than we ever were in April or May. Deaths, however have been holding steady at 20-30 per day since the beginning of July. I can’t help but think that we’ve already killed off the most vulnerable of us, as the deaths per day in the spring and summer were much higher. Way to go, fellow citizens who would like to pretend this virus is no threat. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5052 "2020-10-12T23:44:06Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I can’t help but think that we’ve already killed off the most vulnerable of us, as the deaths per day in the spring and summer were much higher.- Maybe this, but IMHO more likely that doctors are figuring out better ways to treat it, e.g., turning people on their stomachs to ease breathing rather than automatically putting them on ventilators. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5053 "2020-10-12T23:49:23Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I can’t help but think that we’ve already killed off the most vulnerable of us, as the deaths per day in the spring and summer were much higher.- But just look at the long range and/or permanent damage we are doing to the “survivors”. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5054 "2020-10-12T23:59:44Z")
> **[Two Huge Questions Loom as 2020 Census Winds Down (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/census-reapportionment-questions.html)** > > The most contentious census count in memory is nearing an end with questions remaining about the accuracy of its numbers and how they will be used in congressional reapportionment. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5055 "2020-10-13T00:06:56Z")
As a census worker, I did not appreciate the enormous cloud hanging over my head as I tried(and oft times failed) to convince people the information they gave me would be kept private for governmental prying eyes. ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5056 "2020-10-13T00:14:15Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But just look at the long range and/or permanent damage we are doing to the “survivors”. How is it we can ‘look at’ that? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5057 "2020-10-13T03:22:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > As a census worker, I did not appreciate the enormous cloud hanging over my head as I tried(and oft times failed) to convince people the information they gave me would be kept private for governmental prying eyes. Hasn’t this been a perpetual problem with the census since forever? Do you think it’s worse this time around? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5058 "2020-10-13T03:44:11Z")
Definitely more tense than other years. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5059 "2020-10-13T05:30:18Z")
38,043,916 total cases 1,085,375 dead 28,606,252 recovered In the US: 8,037,789 total cases 220,011 dead 5,184,615 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 37,748,234 total cases > 1,081,443 dead > 28,350,523 recovered > > In the US: > > 7,991,998 total cases > 219,695 dead > 5,128,162 recovered ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5060 "2020-10-13T10:16:05Z")
The first documented US case of someone becoming infected more than once, the second time was worse: “…suffered two bouts of Covid-19 infection, one confirmed through testing in mid-April and the second in early June. Symptoms of the second case started in late May, a month after the patient reported his initial symptoms as having resolved. The two strains of virus were genetically distinct, signaling that it is unlikely that the man simply remained unknowingly infected with the virus in one, longer bout, the authors wrote. The paper notes that the patient’s second case of Covid-19 was more severe than his first, requiring supplemental oxygen and admission to a hospital after he suffered from shortness of breath.” > **[Covid-19 Reinfection Documented in Nevada Adds to Questions on Virus Immunity](https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-reinfection-documented-in-nevada-adds-to-questions-on-virus-immunity-11602541808)** > > A number of Covid-19 reinfections around the world suggest that it may be hard to reach broad herd immunity against the coronavirus without a vaccine, researchers say. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5061 "2020-10-13T12:55:32Z")
At this very instant on BBC Radio 2 the phone in topic is asking 'Have you had or do you believe you have been infected with Covid more than once" So far there have been a couple who have been verified absolutely due to genetic strain identification of the virus, but most so far have shown the symptoms twice with about an even chance of the second bout being worse or just very mild indeed. The reason there is such uncertainty is that virus strain testing requires a blood sample for historic infection to identify previous versions of the virus and this is not being done, and for those who caught it earlier there was both a lack of testing and of accurate tests without major risk of false positives - those people who had symptoms simply isolated for the recommended period. It is sounding more and more like there is an identified risk of second infection, not only that but the expert on the radio panel stated that loss of smell often has different effects on the second time around - with sense of smell being distorted rather than lost. To me this suggests that there has been an ongoing number of second infections that has not been widely reported but is reasonably well known in the medical world - which begs the question why it hasn’t been given sufficient publicity before. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5062 "2020-10-13T23:33:31Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > To me this suggests that there has been an ongoing number of second infections that has not been widely reported but is reasonably well known in the medical world - which begs the question why it hasn’t been given sufficient publicity before. My best friend’s aunt, around 80 years old, had covid in the spring and had mild symptoms. She got it again last month and died after a week or so. I think it’s happening a lot more than we hear about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=251) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=253)