# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5063 "2020-10-13T23:43:25Z")

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So wait, we already knew there were multiple strains (i.e. one came to the US from China, and the other from Europe, which I’ve seen cited as a reason why New York was hit so much harder, comparatively speaking), right? All this time, I’ve been thinking that “reinfection” necessarily involved getting the same strain twice; is this not the case?

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5064 "2020-10-14T02:16:18Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> My best friend’s aunt, around 80 years old, had covid in the spring and had mild symptoms. She got it again last month and died after a week or so. I think it’s happening a lot more than we hear about.

Are you sure that was actual covid or post-covid syndrome. My Dad’s friend also had covid in the spring. He went to the hospital for post-covid syndrome. Myocarditis. Come to think of it, my Dad hasn’t heard back from him. They drifted apart a while ago. Hope he’s okay.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5065 "2020-10-14T04:00:38Z")

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> Are you sure that was actual covid or post-covid syndrome. My Dad’s friend also had covid in the spring. He went to the hospital for post-covid syndrome. Myocarditis. Come to think of it, my Dad hasn’t heard back from him. They drifted apart a while ago. Hope he’s okay

I don’t know. She had mild symptoms, not hospitalized, in I think April. Then she was apparently fine until around the middle of September. She was hospitalized and went downhill fast. This info is from my friend via his mother so I can’t say what the doctors actually told her. But my friend is under the impression that it was a 2nd infection.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5066 "2020-10-14T04:01:50Z")

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38,363,600 total cases  
1,090,811 dead  
28,850,085 recovered

In the US:

8,090,253 total cases  
220,873 dead  
5,226,427 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 38,043,916 total cases  
> 1,085,375 dead  
> 28,606,252 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 8,037,789 total cases  
> 220,011 dead  
> 5,184,615 recovered

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5067 "2020-10-14T16:12:43Z")

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It’s not unusual to catch the same viral infection more than once, especially after some time has passed. I don’t have any stats or figures in front of me … but ISTM that the rarities are actually the viruses that **do** generally confer ‘lifetime immunity’ after first exposure, such as chicken pox (but then some get shingles decades later [?]).

‘Lifetime immunity’ in quotes because even for those viruses, some tiny number of exposed people never get lifetime immunity.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5068 "2020-10-14T23:56:30Z")

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Washington Post article in our local paper

> **[Covid-19: Without a vaccine, Trump's plan for herd immunity could kill millions](https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/300133180/covid19-without-a-vaccine-trumps-plan-for-herd-immunity-could-kill-millions)**
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> The virus would be allowed to spread among young, healthy people with little attempt to slow it down, while officials try to keep more vulnerable Americans from contracting it.

What’s going over there just boggles the mind…

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**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5069 "2020-10-15T00:26:03Z")

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That article concludes that reducing restrictions would ‘further damage the economy’. You can’t help but feel that its authors want to have it both ways.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5070 "2020-10-15T00:31:28Z")

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If reducing restrictions leads to an even more widespread outbreak, with an even higher incidence of people becoming seriously ill, and far more dying, you better believe that that’ll damage the economy, too.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5071 "2020-10-15T00:34:18Z")

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You know what would be best for this economy? Knock out this god damned virus, and get back to business.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5072 "2020-10-15T04:03:26Z")

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38,744,473 total cases  
1,096,881 dead  
29,123,761 recovered

In the US:

8,150,043 total cases  
221,843 dead  
5,278,753 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 38,363,600 total cases  
> 1,090,811 dead  
> 28,850,085 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 8,090,253 total cases  
> 220,873 dead  
> 5,226,427 recovered

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5073 "2020-10-15T20:40:50Z")

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Why would _anyone_ want to deliberately catch this disease?

> **['Long COVID' may affect multiple parts of body and mind, doctors say](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-long-covid/long-covid-may-affect-multiple-parts-of-body-and-mind-doctors-say-idUSKBN26Z3AB)**
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> Ongoing illness after infection with COVID-19, sometimes called "long COVID", may not be one syndrome but possibly up to four causing a rollercoaster of symptoms affecting all parts of the body and mind, doctors said on Thursday.

Preexisting condition, indeed.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5074 "2020-10-15T22:23:32Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Why would _anyone_ want to deliberately catch this disease?

You know there is a massive denial movement rampant now and its current target is this pandemic.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5075 "2020-10-15T22:39:35Z")

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It was a rhetorical question. (rueful smile)

I just think about how betrayed people will feel as the truth slowly sinks in over the next few years. Even if you get over COVID, you may not… get over COVID.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5076 "2020-10-16T01:25:00Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Why would _anyone_ want to deliberately catch this disease?

I would be interested in reading this report. I’m dubious as to the value and impact of people sharing their perceived illnesses in on-line communities? I would be interested in the controls the researchers used to rule out factors such as secondary gain.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5077 "2020-10-16T01:34:18Z")

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Oh, of course. It’s obviously very preliminary information. Still, some disturbing observations.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5078 "2020-10-16T04:12:43Z")

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39,175,466 total cases  
1,102,941 dead  
29,378,743 recovered

In the US:

8,216,315 total cases  
222,717 dead  
5,320,139 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 38,744,473 total cases  
> 1,096,881 dead  
> 29,123,761 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 8,150,043 total cases  
> 221,843 dead  
> 5,278,753 recovered

Today shattered the previous one-day new case record worldwide with just over 399,000 new cases; the US had over 66,000 new cases.

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**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5079 "2020-10-16T13:35:56Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You know there is a massive denial movement rampant now and its current target is this pandemic.

Anyone who accepts the premise of that article without skepticism is participating in a type of denial of his own.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5080 "2020-10-16T13:50:40Z")

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> [@SayTwo](#):
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> Anyone who accepts the premise of that article without skepticism is participating in a type of denial of his own.

What type of denial would that be?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5081 "2020-10-16T14:11:20Z")

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Two months ago India surpassed the United States as the country having the most reported COVID cases per day. Its number of daily reported cases soared higher than any other country’s had been.

Now, two months later, the US has reclaimed the title of the Most Reported COVID cases per day, and the number is rising while India’s is falling.(The chart shows a moving seven-day average, but that’s only smoothing over short-term spikes. The trend is pretty clear).

Way to go, USA

> **[New COVID-19 Cases Worldwide - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases)**
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> Have countries flattened the curve? Daily confirmed new COVID-19 cases for the most affected countries over time.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5082 "2020-10-16T14:25:06Z")

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Let’s be very clear. India was on a per capita basis never anywhere close to being in the game.

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