# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5184 "2020-10-26T19:26:46Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Cases are increasing in Europe, with new highs and incredibly rapid rates in
> 
> Poland  
> Belgium  
> Italy

The situation in Switzerland is rapidly deteriorating.

> **[Some Swiss cantons tighten Covid-19 measures, others wait](https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/some-swiss-cantons-tighten-covid-19-measures--others-wait/46116310)**
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> While some Swiss cantons imposed more drastic anti-coronavirus measures on Friday, others have decided to wait. New cases have spiked to over 6,600.

> They confirmed that the country was now more badly affected than its neigbours: it now has 495 cases per 100,000 inhabitants. Only France approaches these levels at 450 cases per 100,000. “We absolutely have to respect hygiene rules,” said Stefan Kuster from the Federal Office of Public Health.

Supposedly the feds will step in on Wednesday and they will make long term (3 months?) decisions to try to keep this mess getting even worse.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5185 "2020-10-26T19:27:57Z")

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The excess death situation is not good. Any attempt to calculate it, of course, results in cries of data falsification from anyone determined to see COVID as “the flu”. 36% brings the total to about ~299K deaths due to COVID so far, which actually lines up with the CDC numbers recently released.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5186 "2020-10-27T00:30:54Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> There are new record daily case counts recorded October 25 in the following states.
> 
> North Dakota  
> South Dakota  
> Montana  
> Alaska  
> Idaho (recorded Oct 24)  
> Wyoming (Oct 24)  
> Illinois  
> Indiana  
> Iowa  
> Kentucky  
> Tennessee  
> Alabama  
> Arkansas (Oct 24)  
> Oklahoma  
> Utah  
> Colorado  
> Puerto Rico  
> New Hampshire

No, not New Hampshire. On May 1 we had 164 cases. The highest number of cases in the past month was 129 on October 24th, and there were 92 on the 25th, and 77 today.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5187 "2020-10-27T00:44:08Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> No, not New Hampshire. On May 1 we had 164 cases. The highest number of cases in the past month was 129 on October 24th, and there were 92 on the 25th, and 77 today.

I get my numbers from the Johns Hopkins site. They reported a record high on October 25 of 103 vases, and 99 at the highest in May

> **[Have we flattened the curve in the US? - Johns Hopkins](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/new-hampshire)**
>
> Daily Confirmed Case Trends (7-Day Moving Average) in the US

I see, though, that they’re doing some averaging on that plot.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5188 "2020-10-27T04:13:12Z")

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43,777,133 total cases  
1,164,515 dead  
32,182,111 recovered

In the US:

8,962,783 total cases  
231,045 dead  
5,833,824 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 43,345,944 total cases  
> 1,159,093 dead  
> 31,904,891 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 8,889,179 total cases  
> 230,510 dead  
> 5,772,498 recovered

The world will go over 44,000,000 total cases tomorrow.

The US will go over 9,000,000 total cases tomorrow as well.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5189 "2020-10-27T04:43:01Z")

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The second day with no new cases in Victoria. Some new cases in New South Wales, South Australia, and Western Australia; the only one I can find a number on is NSW at two new cases.  
Looks like Australia’s about got it licked; let’s see if we can maintain it.

It _can_ be done - it takes effort, restrictions, and inconvenience, but that’s a damn sight better than 697 deaths/million\*, and an economy that’s going to be gimped for months to come. We’ll be back to normal-ish within a month or two; the US almost certainly won’t.

\*Australia is at 35/million.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5190 "2020-10-27T10:22:54Z")

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Not great news…

> **[Covid: Antibodies 'fall rapidly after infection'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54696873)**
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> This is likely to mean immunity levels decline and raises the risk of reinfection, researchers say.

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**Author:** ![Courk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Courk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Courk)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5191 "2020-10-27T12:22:18Z")

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The Eli Lilly antibody trial had been cancelled in hospitalized patients. Per the article, not exactly shocking news, since the antibodies are more likely to help earlier in infections. Those other trials are continuing.

> **[Lilly's COVID-19 antibody fails trial in hospitalized patients](https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/lilly-s-covid-19-antibody-fails-trial-hospitalized-patients)**
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> The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has scrapped a clinical trial of Eli Lil | The NIH has scrapped a clinical trial of Eli Lilly’s anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody in hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Investigators stopped enrolling patients in the study...

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5192 "2020-10-27T20:57:47Z")

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Things are continuing to accelerate in Wisconsin:

> [@](#):
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> Wisconsin reached its most dire point yet Tuesday in the coronavirus crisis that has overtaken the state.
> 
> The state Department of Health Services reported 5,262 new cases and 64 deaths Tuesday, both records far above any previous daily counts.
> 
> The previous daily case record came one week ago with nearly 4,600 new cases.
> 
> The death toll now stands at 1,852.
> 
> The average daily case count over the last seven days is 3,975, just under the all-time high set Saturday. It is more than four times the seven-day average two months ago, when cases were starting to surge in Wisconsin.
> 
> The seven-day average for deaths is 31. Two months ago, the average was six.

I’d been hoping to get in one more socially-distanced visit with my elderly parents in Green Bay before cold weather completely takes hold, but that looks like a truly bad idea now.

> **['It's a nightmare scenario:' Wisconsin reports more than 5,200 cases, 64...](https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2020/10/27/wisconsin-coronavirus-state-reports-5-262-new-cases-64-deaths/3751894001/)**
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> The state Department of Health Services reported 5,262 new cases and 64 deaths Tuesday, both records far above any previous daily counts.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5193 "2020-10-28T05:59:10Z")

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44,252,677 total cases  
1,171,479 dead  
32,447,505 recovered

In the US:

9,038,030 total cases  
232,084 dead  
5,877,964 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 43,777,133 total cases  
> 1,164,515 dead  
> 32,182,111 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 8,962,783 total cases  
> 231,045 dead  
> 5,833,824 recovered

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5194 "2020-10-28T20:48:42Z")

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> [@Courk](#):
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> The Eli Lilly antibody trial had been cancelled in hospitalized patients. Per the article, not exactly shocking news, since the antibodies are more likely to help earlier in infections. Those other trials are continuing.

Antibody therapy was specifically a suggested therapy for intensive care patients, and there were observations that it was successful. So it’s not surprising that there was a trial, and a little surprising that the trial failed. You don’t normally go into a trial unless you’ve got a strong expectation that it will be successful.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5195 "2020-10-28T20:56:45Z")

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French president Emanuel Macron announced that the country will go into lockdown, at least until the end of November; non-essential businesses will be closed, but schools and factories will remain open.

Meanwhile, German chancellor Angela Merkel announced new restrictions on gatherings and limiting bars and restaurants to carryout business.

> **[Coronavirus: Macron declares second national lockdown in France](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54716993)**
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> The tough new curbs on travel, businesses and gatherings are aimed at tackling a Covid-19 surge.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5196 "2020-10-29T00:18:04Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> French president Emanuel Macron announced that the country will go into lockdown,

I had been tracking the general serious spike up since my sister lives in Paris. The 50k new infections is still shocking. Recent numerous days where they had broken 20k was really bad given their population.

Given my sister complaining about lack of mask wear around her even during the initial lockdown, I am not surprised it came back pretty hard. Still this is really damn bad compared to the bad I was expecting.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5197 "2020-10-29T05:56:03Z")

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44,774,935 total cases  
1,179,232 dead  
32,727,721 recovered

In the US:

9,120,751 total cases  
233,130 dead  
5,933,212 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 44,252,677 total cases  
> 1,171,479 dead  
> 32,447,505 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 9,038,030 total cases  
> 232,084 dead  
> 5,877,964 recovered

New records today:

The world with 504,419 new cases in a single day.

The US with 81,581 new cases in a single day.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5198 "2020-10-29T14:23:29Z")

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> [@Melbourne](#):
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> You don’t normally go into a trial unless you’ve got a strong expectation that it will be successful.

True, but then you don’t normally go into a phase 3 study less than 12 months on from creating a therapeutic agent. Let’s just say that because of the urgency of the situation, clinical programs are being compressed to the point that you don’t - can’t - have the confidence of success that you might have in more normal circumstances. Or was that the point that you were making?

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5199 "2020-10-29T20:13:11Z")

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Interesting study on transmission in different contexts. Transmission depends on ventilation, duration and amount of talking/shouting. (nice visuals)

> **[A room, a bar and a classroom: how the coronavirus is spread through the air](https://elpais.com/especiales/coronavirus-covid-19/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air/)**
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> The risk of contagion is highest in indoor spaces but can be reduced by applying all available measures to combat infection via aerosols. Here is an overview of the likelihood of infection in three everyday scenarios, based on the safety measures...

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5200 "2020-10-30T00:50:29Z")

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It appears the US is getting ready to completely blow away the previous record set the day before. Not looking good. Definitely not looking good around where I live.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5201 "2020-10-30T00:53:32Z")

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Aye; I’m going to have to stop posting about records and just go back to noting milestones. Thing is, those milestones are all going to be coming a lot quicker now. And even quicker in the near future.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5202 "2020-10-30T03:54:34Z")

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The US hit 9m cases, and it only took 12 days to climb from 8m. It is helpful that fewer cases are causing death than earlier on, likely due to the younger age and better care.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5203 "2020-10-30T04:05:03Z")

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45,322,464 total cases  
1,186,243 dead  
32,994,673 recovered

In the US:

9,212,767 total cases  
234,177 dead  
5,983,345 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 44,774,935 total cases  
> 1,179,232 dead  
> 32,727,721 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 9,120,751 total cases  
> 233,130 dead  
> 5,933,212 recovered

As I said, it’s not going to be helpful to mark a new record every single day, so I’ll try and stick to milestones.

The world is now experiencing more than 500,000 new cases per day and over 7,000 deaths per day.

The US is now experiencing more than 90,000 new cases per day which is about 18% of all new cases worldwide. US deaths are now more than 1,000 per day also.

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