# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 265
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5304 "2020-11-05T14:55:39Z")
> [@kitap](#): > > Also there are essential workers who have to travel - truckers, maintenance people for factories, and firefighters, for example - and people who have to travel for other reasons, like my former neighbors who got assigned to an Air Force Base on the other side of the country. I was curious about this so I did some further investigation. According to [a guide for hoteliers from Austria’s Chamber of Commerce](https://www.wko.at/branchen/tourismus-freizeitwirtschaft/hotellerie/coronavirus-informationen-fuer-die-hotellerie.html), essential occupational travel and quarantine are two exceptions to the ban on hotel stays. It’s also permitted to complete your planned stay in the hotel, no matter what purpose, if you had already checked in before the lockdown began. If you’re not a guest in one of these three categories, however, it seems that the hotel is supposed to bar you from entry. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5305 "2020-11-05T15:35:54Z")
> **[Startling Case Study Finds Asymptomatic COVID-19 Carrier Who Shed Virus For...](https://www.sciencealert.com/case-study-reveals-rare-patient-who-showed-no-symptoms-but-shed-infectious-sars-cov-2-for-70-days)** > > If there's one thing we know about SARS-CoV-2, is that its effects on people vary. “A team of researchers and doctors has now reported the case of one woman with leukemia who had no symptoms of COVID-19 but 70 days after her first positive test, she was still shedding infectious SARS-CoV-2 particles.” " We have to be careful here to distinguish between infectious viral particles and the results of a diagnostic test, which just detects shreds of viral RNA. Importantly, in this study the researchers actually isolated SARS-CoV-2 from a few swab samples – day 70 included – to test whether the virus collected was able to replicate in lab-grown cells, which it was. “This indicates that, most likely, the infectious virus shed by the patient would still be able to establish a productive infection in contacts upon transmission,” [the researchers wrote]" ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5306 "2020-11-05T17:17:16Z")
> **[Cellular immunity to SARS-CoV-2 found at six months in non-hospitalised...](https://www.uk-cic.org/news/cellular-immunity-sars-cov-2-found-six-months-non-hospitalised-individuals)** > > Cellular (T cell) immunity against SARS-CoV-2 is likely to be present within most adults six months after primary infection, a new pre-print on bioRxiv suggests. “To our knowledge, our study is the first in the world to show robust cellular immunity remains at six months after infection in individuals who experienced either mild/moderate or asymptomatic COVID-19.” “Researchers investigated whether previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 results in immunity to reinfection. They found that a robust cellular memory against the virus persists for at least six months. This is promising news – if natural infection with the virus can elicit a robust T cell response then this may mean that a vaccine could do the same.”” Given there’s only been a dozen or so verified cases of reinfection in the world, this makes sense. But it’s nice to see an actual study backing up the real world observation. Obviously we’ll have to wait and see how things look in the months going forward. Here’s hoping the immune response to this coronavirus is similar to the response to the SARS coronavirus and lasts for 10+ years. ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5307 "2020-11-05T21:36:23Z")
[https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/11/05/dont-make-mine-mink](https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/11/05/dont-make-mine-mink) Danish scientists are concerned that the coronavirus jumped to mink, mutated, and could possibly spread back to humans. All 17,000,000 mink in Denmark are being killed (representing 40% of world mink production). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5308 "2020-11-05T21:49:55Z")
Yikes! (In several levels) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5309 "2020-11-05T23:31:00Z")
Poor minks. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised given how easy for is to infect closely related ferrets with human viruses like the flu and covid for research purposes. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5310 "2020-11-06T00:03:01Z")
Mother Hitton’s Littul Kittons found another way to attack, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5311 "2020-11-06T00:13:55Z")
The election has temporarily distracted us from the godawful COVID numbers. > **[A Dreadful New Peak for the American Pandemic](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/11/100000-coronavirus-cases/616999/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%2BTheAtlantic%2B%28The%2BAtlantic%2B-%2BMaster%2BFeed%29)** > > The country recorded more than 100,000 coronavirus cases on Wednesday—the highest single-day total since the pandemic began. > The United States reported 103,087 cases of COVID-19 on Wednesday, the highest single-day total on record, according to the COVID Tracking Project at _The Atlantic_ . **It marks the first time that the country—or any country in the world, for that matter—has documented more than 100,000 new cases in one day.** > > At the same time, states reported that more than 52,000 people are hospitalized with the coronavirus, the highest level since early August. The number of people hospitalized nationwide is increasing faster in November than it did in October, and—over the past 10 days—their ranks have risen by about 1,000 people a day. > > The record officially marks what was already clear: As winter nears, the country’s third surge of infection is dangerously accelerating in almost every region of the country. This is the reality that the United States is facing, regardless of who will become its next chief executive: A deadly respiratory pandemic is spiraling out of control, and the number of hospitalized people—and deaths—is certain to rise over the next several months. > … My bold. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5312 "2020-11-06T00:23:35Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I guess I shouldn’t be surprised given how easy for is to infect closely related ferrets with human viruses like the flu and covid for research purposes. Almost all pet shop ferrets in the US are produced by [Marshall Farms](https://www.marshallferrets.com/baby-ferrets/) They produce ferrets for the pet trade, but also for research. Ferrets easily contract influenza/COVID/etc. If you notice fewer ferrets in your local pet store, blame COVID. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5313 "2020-11-06T00:25:09Z")
Ah, another Cordwainer Smith fan! ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5314 "2020-11-06T01:10:00Z")
Unfortunately, this doesn’t look anything like a “peak” to me. That would suggest a local maximum, and numbers going down again. I obviously don’t know the future, but this slope still looks like it’s heading up. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5315 "2020-11-06T05:26:51Z")
49,034,766 total cases 1,239,660 dead 34,984,041 recovered In the US: 9,919,522 total cases 240,953 dead 6,340,472 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 48,438,567 total cases > 1,231,019 dead > 34,674,181 recovered > > In the US: > > 9,801,355 total cases > 239,829 dead > 6,292,019 recovered There were more than 600,000 new cases worldwide today; the US had just over 118,000 of them. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5316 "2020-11-06T06:09:50Z")
Within 48 hours we are going to reach 10 million cases in the US and 50 million worldwide. And yet I still had a patient tell me Monday that this is all a fraud, no worse than the flu and we would never hear about it again after election day. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5317 "2020-11-06T07:28:38Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > And yet I still had a patient tell me Monday that this is all a fraud, no worse than the flu and we would never hear about it again after election day. Did you try to explain it to her, or did you figure she was a lost cause? ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5318 "2020-11-06T08:01:21Z")
I did try to discuss it with him but he told me to just wait and see. Now I have noticed that nobody is talking about the virus because of the election but I expect that to change. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5319 "2020-11-06T12:28:00Z")
I do think many nations have very little reason to look at the USA and perhaps feel glad they are not in the same position in relation to ongoing deaths. Looking at the deaths that were listed on 05/11/12 there are plenty of nations that have higher _ **per capita** _ deaths, for example UK, France, Italy Belgium, Argentina, Mexico, Iran, Czech, Romania, Israel etc. I’ve only listed a few but there are many more. I appreciate that the USA numbers in absolute terms are terrible, and the rates of death have been worse in the US have been worse in the recent past, and are likely to become worse in the next few weeks due to the gatherings reelated to the election. Maybe these figures are also accurate and not ‘managed’ (which is something I suspected for quite a while and have posted here.) If there is any reassurance to be had at all, its this - you have a leader that will now take it seriously, the situation is bad but is maybe not as bad as you might believe - There is a lot of hope to be had. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5320 "2020-11-06T12:32:53Z")
So, Illinois set a new record yet again yesterday with almost ten thousand positives. The death toll in the state has now topped ten thousand. With the heart of winter yet ahead and all of the shopping and celebrations of the holiday season, one can only wonder where this is all going to lead. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5321 "2020-11-06T14:12:16Z")
Yeah, a hoax. A myth. > **[Counties with worst virus surges overwhelmingly voted Trump](https://apnews.com/article/counties-worst-virus-surges-voted-trump-d671a483534024b5486715da6edb6ebf)** > > U.S. voters went to the polls starkly divided on how they see President Donald Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic. > …An Associated Press analysis reveals that in 376 counties with the highest number of new cases per capita, the overwhelming majority — 93% of those counties — went for Trump, a rate above other less severely hit areas. > > Most were rural counties in Montana, the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa and Wisconsin — the kinds of areas that often have lower rates of adherence to social distancing, mask-wearing and other public health measures, and have been a focal point for much of the latest surge in cases. > … ---
**Author:** ![Chelonaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@Chelonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chelonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5322 "2020-11-06T14:13:10Z")
casdave, what list are you looking at for deaths/capita? The numbers differ on these two lists I know of, but theres not plenty of nations with higher numbers on either. About half the nations you mention have numbers below the USA on boths list, Israels are much lower. > **[COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/)** > > COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide. > **[COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)** > > Daily and weekly updated statistics tracking the number of COVID-19 cases, recovered, and deaths. Historical data with cumulative charts, graphs, and updates. Statista shows deaths/capita for last 7 days, USA is about nr. 30 on that list, is that the one you refer to? ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5323 "2020-11-06T14:15:00Z")
The U.S. crossed 900 deaths per day yesterday (7 day moving average). North Dakota’s total deaths per million finally surpassed the U.S. total dpm a couple days ago. Yesterday, the state reported 29 deaths, which is equivalent to 38 dpm. That’s just a single day, but the 7 day moving average rose to 13, which is about 17 dpm. North Dakota not only has more cases per million than any other state in the U.S., but also more than any other country in the world. And cases are still rising every day at an incredible rate. These numbers by themselves are horrible, but considering it’s a low density state in a remote area, the numbers are almost unbelievable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=264) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=266)