# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5324 "2020-11-06T16:41:48Z")

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Just in case you were feeling good, here’s some news to bring you down.

New seven-day-average New Case reporting highs have been listed over the past two days in these states

Iowa  
Minnesota  
Wisconsin  
Michigan  
Ohio  
Indiana  
Idaho  
Washington  
Oregon  
New Mexico  
Colorado  
Nebraska  
Wyoming  
Kansas  
Oklahoma  
Pennsylvania  
Rhode Island  
Maine  
Connecticut

If your state’s not in there, don’t feel bad (or good) Many of the others hit record highs less than a week ago, or are at least increasing rapidly.

Also rising very rapidly in their seven-day averages are  
Spain  
Germany  
Czechia  
Poland  
Romania  
Austria  
Iran  
Ukraine  
Switzerland

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5325 "2020-11-06T16:47:10Z")

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I was only looking at yesterdays figures, not the 7 or 3 day averages.

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**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5326 "2020-11-06T17:21:24Z")

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> [@Chelonaut](#):
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> casdave, what list are you looking at for deaths/capita? The numbers differ on these two lists I know of, but theres not plenty of nations with higher numbers on either. About half the nations you mention have numbers below the USA on boths list, Israels are much lower.

Not to speak for @casdave, but here’s a site I’ve been watching:

> **[COVID-19 Data Explorer](https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-02-18..latest&country=USA~ITA~GBR~FRA~BEL~ARG~MEX~IRN~CZE~ROU~ISR~Europe&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc)**
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> Research and data to make progress against the world’s largest problems

The link above shows a 7-day rolling average of deaths per million people. The site is affiliated with the University of Oxford. According to their data, all of the countries casdave mentioned are worse than the US currently, other than Israel.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5327 "2020-11-06T17:42:54Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> If your state’s not in there, don’t feel bad (or good) Many of the others hit record highs less than a week ago, or are at least increasing rapidly.

Some of the NE states aren’t on that list only because they had it SO bad in April, and haven’t yet reached that level. Hopefully, they won’t. We shall see.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5328 "2020-11-06T20:27:49Z")

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> [@casdave](#):
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> If there is any reassurance to be had at all, its this - you have a leader that will now take it seriously

He doesn’t take office till January.

There’s going to be a hell of a mess to clean up.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5329 "2020-11-06T22:45:45Z")

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So if one were, say, interested in purchasing a mink coat, would this be a good time to do it?

1. There’s gonna be a bit of a glut of pelts (assuming the animals aren’t mandated to be cremated or something to avoid spread), and high supply often lowers prices
2. The animals are gonna die regardless of whether someone turns them into coats - so the cruelty argument is (somewhat) offset.

And no, I won’t be shopping for a mink coat any time soon for quite a few reasons.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5330 "2020-11-06T22:49:06Z")

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The end of January. There are 2.5 months of the current admin to get through. That’s a longggg time to go with the current situation.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5331 "2020-11-06T22:51:02Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> So if one were, say, interested in purchasing a mink coat, would this be a good time to do it?
> 
> 1. There’s gonna be a bit of a glut of pelts (assuming the animals aren’t mandated to be cremated or something to avoid spread), and high supply often lowers prices

No. All the mink that are killed will be burned. Skinning the animals would almost certainly spread the virus.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5332 "2020-11-06T23:56:19Z")

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Arizona’s death and infection rate isn’t rising fast enough, so now bars are opening.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5333 "2020-11-07T02:47:04Z")

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That is a sad example of why I don’t think a change in the country’s leadership will amount to much with respect to the virus. All that Biden will be able to do is promote best practices. Ultimately in the US, action is at the state and local level. And if some communities refuse to get on board, it prevents any chance of a broad nationwide improvement. Our problem has always been the inability to formulate a coordinated national strategy. And 2.5 more months of Trump will make it worse, as his false claims of a stolen election will inspire further rebellion from his base. Just pathetic.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5334 "2020-11-07T03:10:00Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> Our problem has always been the inability to formulate a coordinated national strategy.

Because of our obsession with personal freedom (_free-dumb_) in virtually all situations at all times. This is illustrated by the fact that extremist freedom-lovers have shot and stabbed people who have asked them to _temporarily_ inconvenience themselves for others’ well-being by wearing a mask for a short time.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5335 "2020-11-07T03:13:51Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> > [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> > So if one were, say, interested in purchasing a mink coat, would this be a good time to do it?
> > 
> > 1. There’s gonna be a bit of a glut of pelts (assuming the animals aren’t mandated to be cremated or something to avoid spread), and high supply often lowers prices
> 
> No. All the mink that are killed will be burned. Skinning the animals would almost certainly spread the virus.

That’s sad. All those animals killed, all for nothing. ☹

> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> All that Biden will be able to do is promote best practices.

He can also help facilitate the free flow of information, help coordinate regional responses, nudge the NSF etc., to fund fast, cheap tests, and probably other stuff. Oh, and as you say, use the bully pulpit to promote best practices.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5336 "2020-11-07T03:26:39Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> That’s sad. All those animals killed, all for nothing.

Weren’t they going to be killed for vanity?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5337 "2020-11-07T03:33:12Z")

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A warm coat isn’t vanity. I buy ugly bulky down (from killed animals) because it’s warm and light and breathes well, and is just generally more comfortable than the synthetic fluff. If I lived in a slightly colder climate, I’d want a fur coat.

(And I buy fur earmuffs, which are smaller and more comfortable than the synthetics I’ve tried. Earmuffs have a short life span – I’ve worn dozens of them. The fur ones are consistently better than the non-fur ones.)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5338 "2020-11-07T05:04:28Z")

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49,667,748 total cases  
1,248,780 dead  
35,254,736 recovered

In the US:

10,058,586 total cases  
242,230 dead  
6,391,208 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 49,034,766 total cases  
> 1,239,660 dead  
> 34,984,041 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 9,919,522 total cases  
> 240,953 dead  
> 6,340,472 recovered

The US has now confirmed more than 10,000,000 total cases. Every day is pretty much a record for new cases; today there were over 132,000.

The world will go over 50,000,000 total cases tomorrow.

The world will have over 1,250,000 deaths from covid-19 tomorrow.

The US will have over 250,000 deaths less than a week from today.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5339 "2020-11-07T13:05:26Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The US has now confirmed more than 10,000,000 total cases.

With Texas leading the way.

> **[Texas hits 1 million coronavirus cases](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-poised-hit-1-million-covid-19-cases-most-nation-n1246783)**
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> In other coronavirus news: Cuomo boosts National Guard at airports to enforce N.Y. quarantine, doomed Danish minks, and the NBA wants fans in the stands.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5340 "2020-11-07T16:54:22Z")

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Well congratulations Texas!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5341 "2020-11-07T17:12:42Z")

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We toldja we’s speshul. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5342 "2020-11-07T17:31:52Z")

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Short bus special?

😉  
😃

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**Author:** ![PoppaSan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poppasan/32/189_2.png) [@PoppaSan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoppaSan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5343 "2020-11-07T19:39:46Z")

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Also the mask mandate expires in two weeks. We went from about 900/day and declining new cases before the mask mandate to whatever it is now – 5k+?

> **[Wisconsin appeals court rules Evers' COVID-19 order is 'invalid and...](https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/wisconsin-appeals-court-rules-evers-covid-19-order-is-invalid-and-unenforceable)**
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> Wisconsin's Third District Court of Appeals has ruled that Gov. Tony Evers' order that limits indoor capacity is "invalid and unenforceable."

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