# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 267
**Author:** ![Chelonaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@Chelonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chelonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5344 "2020-11-07T19:46:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > No. All the mink that are killed will be burned. Skinning the animals would almost certainly spread the virus. That’s what I thought too, but apparently not all. I saw this piece about a local company that rents out freezer containers. Apparently the breeders wants to skin their minks and freeze the skins, since right now the market price is at rock bottom: > **[Frysecontainerfirma fik pludselig travlt: Minkavlere fryser skind ned til...](https://stiften.dk/aarhus/frysecontainerfirma-fik-pludselig-travlt-minkavlere-fryser-skind-ned-til-bedre-tider)** > > Frysecontainerfirmaet CHS leverer containere til minkavlerne, der pelser minken, skraber pelsen ren, lægger pelsen i poser og ind i en container, som fryser dem ned til minus 25 grader. Leaves a lot of questions: I assume this is only for the mink farms which hasn’t been infested with COVID19 yet, anything else would be crazy. Is it usual to freeze mink skins to -25C for storage? Translation: ||Langå / Risskov: The freezer container company CHS Container from Risskov got busy already the day after Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen (S) had ordered all the country’s 17 million mink slaughtered. - The phone started ringing. It was mink breeders who wanted containers out so they could freeze the skins down to better times, says director Søren Holm Poulsen, who has received inquiries that will reach out next week. He has just brought several containers home from Germany for the purpose. And has already delivered containers to mink breeders in Langå and Tvilum, among others. The mink breeders fur the mink, scrape the skin free of meat and put the fur in a bag, after which the bag is placed in the container, which is set at minus 25 degrees. - In this way, the skins can last a long time, says Søren Holm Poulsen, who reckons that mink skins are currently at the bottom, in terms of price. - But the hope is that they rise later, and then they can be taken out and sold, he says.|| ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5345 "2020-11-07T22:17:01Z")
Good news- My boss, who spits all over the shop floor took off Friday because his wife tested positive! No shit. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5346 "2020-11-08T02:22:57Z")
The Miami Herald reports on a U of Miami study in which autopsies found [covid in tissues of victims’ testicles](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article247022937.html). The sample number is small, but they took pictures. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5347 "2020-11-08T03:16:48Z")
There have been nine days now since the last new case of COVID-19 in the state of Victoria. As of tomorrow, a new round of relaxed restrictions will occur. Most particularly, the ‘ring of steel’ around Melbourne (where most of the cases were) will be relaxed, and Victorians will be able to travel to and from the city as they will. There’s still some restrictions, but they’ve been loosened, and will apply across Victoria. [Story here.](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-08/daniel-andrews-confirms-victorian-coronavirus-restrictions-lift/12861082) There’s fair odds that Australia will not only have the pandemic contained, but actually eliminated, in the near future. Fingers crossed. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5348 "2020-11-08T03:28:22Z")
And _that_ is the datum that will finally convince machos to wear masks! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5349 "2020-11-08T05:07:20Z")
Hawaii has returned to triple-digit daily new cases for four days in a row now. In the 100s. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5350 "2020-11-08T05:22:24Z")
50,263,740 total cases 1,256,352 dead 35,549,694 recovered In the US: 10,182,818 total cases 243,257 dead 6,441,744 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 49,667,748 total cases > 1,248,780 dead > 35,254,736 recovered > > In the US: > > 10,058,586 total cases > 242,230 dead > 6,391,208 recovered ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5351 "2020-11-08T12:57:27Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > The Miami Herald reports on a U of Miami study in which autopsies found [covid in tissues of victims’ testicles](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article247022937.html). The sample number is small, but they took pictures. > [@susan](#): > > And _that_ is the datum that will finally convince machos to wear masks! You are 100% correct on that one! If there is one thing that will get these big babies’ attention it’s the possibility of damage to their junk. Nothing hits home like that. 😱 This potential testicular damage should be shouted from the rooftops! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5352 "2020-11-08T13:03:15Z")
I was thinking along that line, but I also see them saying, “Oh, the sample is small. That does not apply to _my_ jewels” and they would take no action. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5353 "2020-11-08T16:10:44Z")
You assume a higher degree of critical evaluation of research methodology than is, perhaps, likely. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5354 "2020-11-08T16:26:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I was thinking along that line, but I also see them saying, “Oh, the sample is small. That does not apply to _my_ jewels” and they would take no action. I dunno. Not a guy (obviously), but a rumor along the lines of _“COVID is a serious threat to your 'nads”_ might get a fair amount of traction. I mean, my god, COVID misinformation has been rampant (excuse the expression). If suggestions about injecting bleach as a cure were taken seriously, why not this? _“Wear a mask! Do it for The Boys!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5355 "2020-11-08T17:02:09Z")
Excellent article about covid transmission in the English language El Pais: > **[A room, a bar and a classroom: how the coronavirus is spread through the air](https://elpais.com/especiales/coronavirus-covid-19/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air/)** > > The risk of contagion is highest in indoor spaces but can be reduced by applying all available measures to combat infection via aerosols. Here is an overview of the likelihood of infection in three everyday scenarios, based on the safety measures... ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5356 "2020-11-08T17:07:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I dunno. Not a guy (obviously), but a rumor along the lines of _“COVID is a serious threat to your 'nads”_ might get a fair amount of traction… > … > _“Wear a mask! Do it for The Boys!”_ Do they make masks for down there? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5357 "2020-11-08T17:14:49Z")
[![](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_h937HNtz6ek/S11Z2V2JdzI/AAAAAAAAT-0/IGb-GZWtG5c/s1600/sexy-mens-underwear-08.jpg) ](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_h937HNtz6ek/S11Z2V2JdzI/AAAAAAAAT-0/IGb-GZWtG5c/s1600/sexy-mens-underwear-08.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5358 "2020-11-08T17:18:18Z")
A Who Wears Horton. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5359 "2020-11-08T18:03:34Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Excellent article about covid transmission in the English language El Pais: > > [Aerosol transmission of Covid-19: A room, a bar and a classroom: how the coronavirus is spread through the air | Society | EL PAÍS in English](https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html) Thanks for this - the article really is excellent. Strongly recommended read. j ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5360 "2020-11-08T21:01:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Wear a mask! Do it for The Boys!” Makes a nice slogan. Extremely low numbers, but one was from a biopsy done on an asymptomatic guy. So you don’t have to get visibly sick for possible damage. (I know - you can’t count to a lower number than one.) And, yes, so far there’s no sign of permanent damage, just damaged sperm and signs of the virus in tissue. But it’s not like they can do tests of future fertility on the autopsy samples. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5361 "2020-11-08T21:07:31Z")
Not sure if this is the best thread for this or not but an interesting pair of studies out this week relevant to **kids and COVID-19**. First in Nature, [summarized by the NYT here.](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/health/covid-children-antibodies.html?surface=home-discovery-vi-prg&fellback=false&req_id=424581250&algo=identity&imp_id=587194499&action=click&module=Science%20%20Technology&pgtype=Homepage) > [@](#): > > Children infected with the coronavirus produce weaker antibodies and fewer types of them than adults do, suggesting they clear their infection much faster, according to a new study [published Thursday](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9). > > Other studies have suggested that an [overly strong immune response](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/health/coronavirus-cytokine-storm-immune-system.html) may be to blame in people who get severely ill or die from Covid-19. A weaker immune response in children may paradoxically indicate that they vanquish the virus before it has had a chance to wreak havoc in the body, and may help explain why children are mostly spared severe symptoms of Covid, the disease caused by the coronavirus. It may also show why they are less likely to spread the virus to others. > > “They may be infectious for a shorter time,” said Donna Farber, an immunologist at Columbia University in New York who led the study reported in the journal Nature Immunology. > > Having weaker and fewer antibodies does not mean that children would be more at risk of re-infections, other experts said. … > > … he range of antibodies differed between children and adults. The children made primarily one type of antibody, called IgG, that recognizes the spike protein on the surface of the virus. Adults, by contrast, made several types of antibodies to the spike and other viral proteins, and these antibodies were more powerful at neutralizing the virus. > > Children had “less of a protective response, but they also had less of a breadth of an antibody response,” Dr. Farber said. “It’s because those kids are just not getting infected as severely.” … Lower levels of virus in the body would also explain why children seem generally to transmit the virus less efficiently than adults do. … From [the article itself](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9): > [@](#): > > … Optimal protection to viral respiratory tract infections is mediated by virus-specific immunological memory developed during previous exposures[24](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR24). The majority of primary exposures, especially to viral respiratory pathogens that are ubiquitous in the population, occur during infancy and childhood and virus-specific memory is established by adult life[25](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR25),[26](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR26). Consequently, it is largely unknown how primary immune responses to viral pathogens may differ between children and adults. … > > … The reduced respiratory symptoms and low incidence of ARDS in the pediatric population[2](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR2) suggest a distinct infection course, possibly due to lower expression of the viral receptor (angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2)) in pediatric airway epithelial cells[27](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR27) or a more robust innate immune response in children[28](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR28),[29](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR29),[30](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR30) … The reduced functional antibody response in children compared to adults could also be due to efficacious immune-mediated viral clearance resulting in fewer respiratory symptoms and severe illness. The presence of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells in the peripheral blood of recovered and COVID-ARDS adults has been demonstrated in multiple cohorts[31](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR31),[32](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR32),[33](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR33), although the protective capacity of these T cells is unclear. The pediatric T cell response to SARS-CoV-2 requires investigation but may exceed the adult responses due to an increased number of naïve T cells available to respond to new pathogens[34](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR34) or more recently acquired T cell memory to related coronavirus strains[35](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR35) due to children experiencing more respiratory illnesses. **The IgG predominance in the majority of children examined in this study is consistent with preexisting immunological memory**. Interestingly, less severe manifestations of COVID-19 have been associated with a more coordinated adaptive immune responses in adults[36](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00826-9#ref-CR36), suggesting that the quality and quantity of the immune response is important for protection from severe disease. … Bolding mine for reason of the other article to highlight of this week, [in Science](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107), but first let’s summarize - kids seems to clear SARS-CoV2 quickly, before it spreads far, with fewer respiratory symptoms, and a narrower antibody response. Hypotheses (none mutually exclusive) to why kids get off relatively so easy have included a stronger innate response, receptor differences, and the “frequency/recency” of other common cold causing HCoVs in kids compared to most adults. So to the Science article (bolding also mine) - > [@](#): > > Using diverse assays for antibodies recognizing SARS-CoV-2 proteins, we detect preexisting humoral immunity. SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein (S)-reactive antibodies were detectable by a flow cytometry-based method in SARS-CoV-2-uninfected individuals and were particularly prevalent in children and adolescents. They were predominantly of the IgG class and targeted the S2 subunit. By contrast, SARS-CoV-2 infection induced higher titers of SARS-CoV-2 S-reactive IgG antibodies, targeting both the S1 and S2 subunits, and concomitant IgM and IgA antibodies, lasting throughout the observation period. … > > … their emergence was not simply a common transient event following each HCoV infection in this age group (median age 51 years; table S1). Instead, given that HCoV-reactive antibodies are present in virtually all adults ([_3_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-3)–[_5_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-5)), the rarity of SARS-CoV-2 S cross-reactivity (16 of 302; 5.29%), indicates additional requirements, such as random B cell receptor repertoire focusing or **frequency of HCoV infection, rather than time since the last HCoV infection. Indeed, the frequency of HCoV infection displays a characteristic age distribution, being the highest in children and adolescents** ([_1_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-1), [_4_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-4)–[_8_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-8)). We therefore examined a cohort of younger SARS-CoV-2-uninfected healthy donors (aged 1-16 years; table S1), sampled between 2011 and 2018. Remarkably, at least 21 of these 48 donors had detectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 S-reactive IgG antibodies ([Fig. 2, C to E](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#F2)), whereas only one of an additional cohort of 43 young adults (aged 17-25 years; table S1) had such antibodies ([Fig. 2F](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#F2)). Staining with sera from SARS-CoV-2-uninfected children and adolescents was specific to HEK293T cells expressing SARS-CoV-2 S, but not the unrelated HERV-K113 envelope glycoprotein, and was outcompeted by soluble SARS-CoV-2 S2 (fig. S13). The prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 S-reactive IgG antibodies peaked at 62% between 6 and 16 years of age ([Fig. 2F](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#F2)), when HCoV seroconversion in this age group also peaks ([_3_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-3), [_4_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-4), [_6_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-6), [_7_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-7)), and was significantly higher than in adults ( _P_ \<0.00001, Fisher’s exact test). … > > … Together with preexisting T cell ([_12_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-12)–[_14_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-14)) and B cell memory ([_10_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-10), [_15_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-15)), antibody cross-reactivity between seasonal HCoVs and SARS-CoV-2 may have important ramifications for natural infection. Epidemiological studies of HCoV transmission suggest that cross-protective immunity is unlikely to be sterilizing or long-lasting ([_8_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-8)), which is also supported by repeated reinfection ([_2_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-2), [_16_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-16)). Nevertheless, prior immunity induced by one HCoV can reduce the transmission of homologous and heterologous HCoVs, and ameliorate the symptoms where transmission is not prevented ([_1_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-1), [_2_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-2)). A **possible modification of COVID-19 severity by prior HCoV infection may account for the age distribution of COVID-19 susceptibility, where higher HCoV infection rates in children than in adults ([_4_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-4), [_6_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-6)) correlates with relative protection from COVID-19 ([_17_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/05/science.abe1107#ref-17)) and may also shape seasonal and geographical patterns of transmission**. … So perhaps in the frequency/recency bucket it is more frequency than recency? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5362 "2020-11-08T22:38:06Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Makes a nice slogan. Extremely low numbers, but one was from a biopsy done on an asymptomatic guy. So you don’t have to get visibly sick for possible damage. (I know - you can’t count to a lower number than one.) > > And, yes, so far there’s no sign of permanent damage, just damaged sperm and signs of the virus in tissue. But it’s not like they can do tests of future fertility on the autopsy samples. TBH, it doesn’t matter how great-- or even real-- the risk is, as long as it’s greater than zero. The idea is to get these macho, _“No one can tell me what to do!”_ guys to wear masks. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5363 "2020-11-08T23:36:02Z")
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