# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5384 "2020-11-10T05:03:18Z")

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51,243,488 total cases  
1,269,319 dead  
36,053,021 recovered

In the US:

10,421,956 total cases  
244,448 dead  
6,552,610 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 50,738,093 total cases  
> 1,262,132 dead  
> 35,795,461 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 10,288,480 total cases  
> 243,768 dead  
> 6,483,420 recovered

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5385 "2020-11-10T14:17:33Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Kids much more often having SARS-CoV2 cross reactive antibodies than adults do, as per the Science article, is also consistent with the speculation that recent frequent infections with other hCoVs is a major factor.

One concern I have with this theory is that the reaction of children all over the world seems pretty consistent. Is the frequency of cold-causing coronavirus the same all over the world? Is the tendency for children to get them much more frequently than adults the same all over the world? If not, do places where everyone has the same level of exposure see the difference in infection rates between kids and adults disappear?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5386 "2020-11-10T14:34:03Z")

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To the best of my knowledge yes it is the same all over the world. Why would you suspect otherwise? Kids are kids everywhere.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5387 "2020-11-10T14:38:56Z")

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Sure, but not every culture segregates kids from adults into all-kid environments as much as we do.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5388 "2020-11-10T14:43:42Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Kids are kids everywhere.

Yeah, but kids live very different lives in different countries!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5389 "2020-11-10T15:09:03Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Kids are kids everywhere.

I spray every spring and fall.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5390 "2020-11-10T17:08:21Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I spray every spring and fall.

🤣 😂 thanks, I needed this.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5391 "2020-11-10T17:27:02Z")

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Today’s MIT lecture in the SARS CoV-2 class is about the development of the Moderna vaccine. I just watched it live, but it a recording will be available on-line in a couple of days. It’s fascinating.

> **[New Subject Offering: "COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2 and the Pandemic"](https://biology.mit.edu/undergraduate/current-students/subject-offerings/covid-19-sars-cov-2-and-the-pandemic/)**
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> In Fall 2020, all MIT students and the general public are welcome to join Professors Richard Young and Facundo Batista as they discuss the science of the pandemic during this new class.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5392 "2020-11-10T17:34:31Z")

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It’s also very encouraging. The early phases of studies found that their candidate vaccine produced immunity comparable to the top quartile of immunity from natural infection. But still, the proof is in the pudding. Dr. Corbett said she cried (for joy) when she heard that the Pfizer vaccine looked to have 90% efficacy.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5393 "2020-11-10T20:40:46Z")

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Just for a downer, these states have recorded a record high in the seven-day average listing of new cases in the past two or three days. Lots of new ones here

Maine  
New Hampshire  
Rhode Island  
Connecticut  
Delaware  
Pennsylvania  
Maryland  
Virginia  
West Virginia  
Ohio  
Michigan  
Illinois  
Indiana  
Kentucky  
Tennessee  
Oklahoma  
Arkansas  
Kansas  
Missouri  
Nebraska  
Iowa  
Minnesota  
North Dakota  
South Dakota  
Wyoming  
Colorado  
New Mexico  
Utah  
Nevada  
Idaho  
Alaska  
Washington (state)  
Oregon

That’s 33 out of fifty states. Puerto Rico has hit a seven-day average high, too. It’;s just not a state. And in most of the others, it’s rising rapidly. It just hasn’t hit previously reported highs. It’s still going up rapidly in several other countries, as well.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5394 "2020-11-10T20:57:04Z")

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Well, NY, NJ, CT, and MA had really high rates in the spring. Their numbers are all high and rising, just not as high as their previous peak. So… not actually good news there.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5395 "2020-11-10T21:06:13Z")

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California just shuffled several counties, moving them back to more restrictive levels than they had been.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5396 "2020-11-10T21:41:23Z")

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Indeed, in New Jersey we just hit our highest level in a long time. I’m glad I got my haircut & dental work out of the way today. By next week I might be afraid to go. 3,877 new case. worst since April 24th.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5397 "2020-11-10T21:45:11Z")

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NC moving back to indoor limit of 10 people

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5398 "2020-11-10T21:45:24Z")

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Yeah, I usually have my annual physical in late November. I pushed it up to September this year. I also lobbied for a dental cleaning in September. Those were a good calls.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5399 "2020-11-10T21:51:32Z")

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I’ve restarted dental work myself in Florida, not because I feel safe, but because it doesn’t look like it will be getting safer any time soon.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5400 "2020-11-10T21:53:32Z")

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We had invited our cleaning lady back, but we are going to ask her not to come again for a while.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5401 "2020-11-11T01:26:43Z")

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Can someone reassure me this isn’t as terrifying as it sounds?

> **[With North Dakota hospitals at 100% capacity, Burgum announces COVID-positive...](https://www.grandforksherald.com/newsmd/with-north-dakota-hospitals-at-100-capacity-burgum-announces-covid-positive-nurses-can-stay-at-work)**
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> In an attempt to alleviate some of the staffing concerns, Burgum announced that the state health officer has amended an order that will allow health care workers with asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 to continue working in hospitals' COVID-19 units....

Basically, Healthcare workers who are COVID positive but without symptoms will be allowed to continue working in North Dakota. I guess they will only be working with COVID positive patients but it seems a huge risk to the rest of the health care system since ethey can still spread the disease.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5402 "2020-11-11T01:36:30Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> Also there are essential workers who have to travel - truckers, maintenance people for factories, and firefighters, for example - and people who have to travel for other reasons, like my former neighbors who got assigned to an Air Force Base on the other side of the country.

And obviously healthcare workers brought in from outside the area to help with the pandemic.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5403 "2020-11-11T02:23:16Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Oh – THAT makes sense, and that’s what I’ve been assuming is the difference. I didn’t realize this article supported that view.

That was one possible explanation for the data. The other explanation was that children have less ACE2 receptors in their respiratory tracts. However, the differences in ACE2 receptors in the paper they cite doesn’t seem that large to me. I’m not from that field, so I have no idea whether or not the findings are physiologically relevant.

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