# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/522 "2020-03-10T22:50:08Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > They are doing post mortem tests of the the Life Care Center residents who have recently died. . [https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/washington-reports-16-deaths-from-covid-19-as-officials-scramble-to-contain](https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/washington-reports-16-deaths-from-covid-19-as-officials-scramble-to-contain) > > I know that a week ago, 2 deaths were posthumously diagnosed and were added to the US total, so I presume these additional ones will be as well if it is suspected that covid-19 caused the death. Has anyone been able to figure out how close to 100% of the Kirkland residents have now contracted it? I believe there were only 120 people living there: 31 tested positive, 20 were still waiting on results, 3 were inconclusive, 1 negative, and at least 16 dead, but I haven’t been able to track down how many residents (without staff or first responders mixed in!) tested positive but haven’t died before yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/523 "2020-03-10T22:55:54Z")
Well, say a prayer for me as we head into the maelstrom. The virus has hit locally. News reports caution people to avoid urgent care centers and ERs and instead “if you feel sick, contact your primary care doctor”, which would be…me? We have stocked the office with masks, gloves, Purell and Lysol. I have developed an action plan for the office (try to treat febrile or coughing patients over the phone, isolate and put masks on these people if they come in, thoroughly clean the rooms afterwards with antiviral disinfectants etc.). But…you cannot make every patient wear a mask (and you can’t use an N95 respirator for every patient). Which of the many patients with a “a cold” or “the flu” will actually have Covid-19? Who knows? Do we have access to test kits? What do you think? The kits are in the hospitals to be used to test the critically ill. We are desperately trying to get our hands on some means of testing but it will of necessity be rationed. Some of my employees are high risk, my parents are elderly and one of my fears is that I acquire a mild infection and unintentionally serve as a vector of spread. Wish me luck. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/524 "2020-03-10T22:56:40Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > Whoa, a day after Indian Wells–an open-air event, in the desert–cancelled, Denver cancelled its St. Pat’s Day parade–also an open-air event. > > And yet, they did not cancel jury duty, NOT an open-air event, and my spouse had to show up there this morning. In about an hour I have to call to see if I have to go to jury duty tomorrow. If I have to go, I wonder what would happen if I start coughing … ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/525 "2020-03-10T22:56:50Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Has anyone been able to figure out how close to 100% of the Kirkland residents have now contracted it? I believe there were only 120 people living there: 31 tested positive, 20 were still waiting on results, 3 were inconclusive, 1 negative, and at least 16 dead, but I haven’t been able to track down how many residents (without staff or first responders mixed in!) tested positive but haven’t died before yesterday. [I found this](https://q13fox.com/2020/03/10/two-more-coronavirus-deaths-in-king-county-as-10-nursing-homes-report-positive-tests/): > [@](#): > > Of the 22 deaths reported in King County, 19 are associated with Life Care Center of Kirkland, where at least 55 people have tested positive for the virus. I know it’s not exactly the answer you’re looking for, tho. Right after that is some more news: > [@](#): > > Public Health is working with 10 long-term care facilities where residents and/or employees have tested positive for the virus. > > The following facilities have reported residents and/or employees who tested positive for the virus: > > Life Care Center of Kirkland > Issaquah Nursing & Rehabilitation Center > Emerald Heights > Aegis Living at Marymoor > Redmond Care & Rehabilitation Center > Ida Culver House Ravenna > Boulevard Park Place Active Retirement Community > Madison House Independent & Assisted Living Community > The Gardens at Juanita Bay > Columbia Lutheran Home ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/526 "2020-03-10T22:58:44Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Harvard University, now, too. They don’t want students coming back to Cambridge so they can “de-densify” the area. They’re supposed to attend on-line classes from their homes, if they can. My daughter teaches at a large Midwestern State University, and they are going to be working online only for at least two weeks. She’s happy she just finished doing exams. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/527 "2020-03-10T23:24:31Z")
The UK Health Minister, Nadine Dorries, has just tested positive for the virus. BBC Newsnight has just reported that she started feeling under the weather on Thursday only a few hours after visiting Boris Johnson in Downing Street. On Friday she felt worse and recognised her symptoms as being similar to Coronavirus and notified the necessary people. She was tested on Saturday and it’s just been announced. Apparently she is already feeling better however there will no doubt be some very nervous officials close to number 10. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/528 "2020-03-10T23:24:42Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I’m supposed to go there May 1 for a huge conference that the organizers continue to insist will happen. I guess they’re gambling that if the virus, and concern over the virus, is still this bad or worse in late April, that no one will notice them canceling at the last minute because we’ll be in the throes of an apocalyptic event. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/529 "2020-03-10T23:27:59Z")
[King County](https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/news/2020/March/10-covid-case-updates.aspx)(greater seattle area including Kirkland) has a really worrisome daily update: Ten long-term care facilities have reported positive COVID-19 cases. Get ready for a lot more deaths coming out of my neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/530 "2020-03-10T23:29:58Z")
n/m ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/531 "2020-03-10T23:38:29Z")
Three days ago Chicago reported a new case of covid-19 Two days ago it had two new cases Yesterday it had four new cases. Today it had 8 new cases. That, by the way, are the ones that have been detected - Illinois in general and Chicago in particular are screaming that they can’t get sufficient testing kits. Meanwhile… I’ve been feeling a bit headachey and off-color today, a bit of a cough… but hell, I’m in my fifties and have asthma, it’s nothing unusual to have a bit of a cough. And it’s still the cold and flu season. Was going to check my temperature but realized I don’t have a thermometer. And I can’t find one. Apparently they have all gone to the same places that the hand sanitizers went. The Federal government is keeping the numbers down by simply not supplying kits. Oh, yeah, that’ll work…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/532 "2020-03-11T00:01:05Z")
So WTH, the [Johns Hopkins Covid-19 map](https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1cnB4UuOYuu2DNYoCsIwM9x5iJp6Gxm8VXUT8Hs2AZI3cw_KF1BrsN29Q#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) no longer shows city level tracking of cases. Now it just shows state-level counts. Crap, having city or even county specificity was useful, this isn’t particularly. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/533 "2020-03-11T00:03:28Z")
\*\*Psychobunny, \*\*I read that Quest and another lab system will be providing tests. I think that’s nationally but I’m on my phone so it’s hard to search. I’m guessing my university will close soon. Administration just emailed all faculty to find out whether we could do finals in a remote format. I imagine they’re trying to keep the University open for the rest of the last week of classes, though. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/534 "2020-03-11T00:06:18Z")
The allergy season isn’t helping things. On my way to work this morning, I started feeling nasally congested and urpy. So I stop walking and ask myself, “Should I keep going? Or should I go back home?” I eventually decided to keep going. I’ve got a major deadline hanging over me. I ain’t got time to be studying no COVID-19! But shit, man! I’m going to have to do this dance for the indeterminate future, and it sucks. I have a coworker that everyone is pissed at. He came to work sick last week and brought in bagels for everyone. Not fresh bagels he picked up from the bakery, mind you, but leftover bagels from a non-work event he participated in. So these are bagels he touched and breathed over. (I love free food, but I didn’t partake). He coughed all the live long day and left early when he started feeling feverish. For the past week he’s been in self-quarantine. His flu test came back negative. So we’re all waiting for what’s next. If he comes back positive, then we’ll have to be self-quarantined. It is what it is, but dayum dayum DAYUM. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/535 "2020-03-11T00:07:20Z")
What’s the status on availability of testing kits in the United States? Are they waiting until there is a Trump-connected company that can be the middle-man to provide them to the health authorities for a 5,000% markup? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/536 "2020-03-11T00:09:13Z")
[Coachella postponed until October (Stagecoach too)](https://apnews.com/f6dcaffc406c1f8fdb441b9b0b497bf2) > [@](#): > > The festival’s producer Goldenvoice made the announcement Tuesday, also confirming that Stagecoach, a country music festival, will also be postponed. Coachella, held in Southern California, will now take place on Oct. 9-11 and Oct. 16-18, while Stagecoach will take place Oct. 23-25. > > “At the direction of the County of Riverside and local health authorities, we must sadly confirm the rescheduling of Coachella and Stagecoach due to COVID-19 concerns. While this decision comes at a time of universal uncertainty, we take the safety and health of our guests, staff and community very seriously. We urge everyone to follow the guidelines and protocols put forth by public health officials,” Goldenvoice said in a statement. > > The company said all passes for original dates will be honored for the rescheduled shows, and customers will be notified by Friday on how to obtain a refund if they cannot attend. > > Rage Against the Machine, Travis Scott and Frank Ocean were originally announced as headliners of Coachella; Goldenvoice didn’t say if the performance lineup would change or stay intact. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/537 "2020-03-11T00:24:11Z")
Nothing much to add. But it is important not to panic at this stage. That could be hard given constant media and Internet coverage, unnecessary closures and market mayhem. Obey basic precautions - wash your hands often. Don’t book a cruise or trip to rural China right now. Most cases are likely mild. Most people don’t need masks. Although this outbreak is not great, it is likely overblown and optimism will triumph over fear. Consider it a lesson in what you might need on hand for a more severe emergency. Continue to exercise and eat better. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/538 "2020-03-11T00:27:43Z")
:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/539 "2020-03-11T00:37:28Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > …Continue to exercise and eat better. What if I haven’t started yet? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/540 "2020-03-11T00:46:18Z")
Oh SHIT! This just got _really_ real: [MGM closing Vegas buffets as virus precaution](https://apnews.com/a67ec6bc50982155590f8d1df58e1d70)! :eek: 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/541 "2020-03-11T00:49:06Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I suggest you don’t think about it in binary terms: ok - not okay. The larger the gathering the worse it is. Ideally, you would be alone isolated from everyone else, but that isn’t practical. The smaller the group the better. As the group size grows, the worse it is. I just wanted to add that there is also spacing to consider. A place like the grocery store, even when busy, is safer than other gatherings of the same population due to a larger amount of personal space. A concert or sporting event or church service or happy hour generally has people much closer together. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=28)