# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5705 "2020-11-20T22:38:22Z")

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Sha-_ZAAAM_!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5706 "2020-11-21T00:13:01Z")

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I don’t understand, with all of the precautions these guys take and recommend, how this happens:

> **[Donald Trump Jr. tests positive for coronavirus | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/donald-trump-jr-coronavirus/index.html)**
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> Donald Trump Jr., President Donald Trump's eldest son, has tested positive for the coronavirus, a personal spokesman told CNN on Friday.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5707 "2020-11-21T00:47:00Z")

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Kansas:

> **[Kansas hospitals buckle, schools pull back amid virus surge](https://apnews.com/article/kansas-coronavirus-pandemic-503ff33b5a54eb239cd6cb5e3eb4e0a0)**
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> MISSION, Kan. (AP) — Hospitals across Kansas are buckling as coronavirus cases swell, leading many schools to scale back in-person learning and one county to intensify plans for a possible field hospital.

Texas:

> **[The Latest: Japan's confirmed COVID-19 cases hit new record](https://apnews.com/article/international-news-travel-air-travel-hong-kong-coronavirus-pandemic-a21a3832748e8bfc6a8e052636c84eaf)**
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> TOKYO — The number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in Japan reached a record for the third day straight, at 2,418 cases, the health ministry said Saturday...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5708 "2020-11-21T01:54:18Z")

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California has instituted an overnight curfew thru 21 December:

> **[Experts, California residents question curfew effectiveness](https://apnews.com/article/sacramento-california-coronavirus-pandemic-daa530a9a4d3cc9d028ccdce6108bef6)**
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> SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Come Saturday night, California will join other states and nations in trying a partial overnight curfew as its latest desperate attempt to stem a surge in coronavirus cases, though experts said its effect may be more...

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5709 "2020-11-21T02:03:14Z")

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Which guys? Has Junior recommended precautions? What precautions does he take? Who’s he socializing with? How much time does he spend in the plague-ridden White House?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5710 "2020-11-21T02:06:31Z")

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It’s all sarcastic, you know, because politics and the drastic effect of politics on this pandemic are not to be directly confronted in this forum. So I wide eyed wonder, how could such a thing happen?

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5711 "2020-11-21T02:10:17Z")

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Are you saying that you are breaking the rules of this forum but doing it sarcastically so it doesn’t count? That’s a good trick to know. Thanks!

eta: guess I should read the rules. Sounds complicated though.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5712 "2020-11-21T02:12:51Z")

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Figgy, tell me about the precautions we should be following concerning this virus.

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5713 "2020-11-21T02:16:11Z")

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I was instructed not to debate in this thread. It’s for breaking news. I doubt my general guidelines would differ from the ones issued by my local authorities but if you want to discuss it, please direct me to an appropriate topic/thread.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5714 "2020-11-21T02:17:54Z")

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I guess if you want to discuss this situation honestly, we have the Pit.

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5715 "2020-11-21T02:18:57Z")

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Well, I have no idea what you mean or why you’re being so hostile. What did I say?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5716 "2020-11-21T02:19:50Z")

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I’m trying not to get another warning when Trump Jr. himself just tested positive.

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5717 "2020-11-21T02:22:19Z")

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Ha ha. Ok. Sometimes I forget you can’t initially notice how drunk someone is in an internet conversation. Lol.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5718 "2020-11-21T02:22:41Z")

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I’ll allow you to sleep it off.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5719 "2020-11-21T03:15:20Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> politics and the drastic effect of politics on this pandemic are not to be directly confronted in this forum.

That’s because this is a Breaking News thread. Start a thread on The Politicization of COVID in The Pit, why don’tcha?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5720 "2020-11-21T03:48:45Z")

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This Alabama football coach quit his job over the lack of safety and testing for the kids.

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> He felt so strongly about it that he quit his coaching job at Russell County High, a school in the rural, eastern part of Alabama, not far from the Georgia line.
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> “I put it all on the line, but I would do it all again,” Rose said Friday when reached on his cell phone. “I couldn’t sleep at night if I wasn’t protecting my players, their families and my coaches.”

> **[Former Russell County football coach breaks silence, says he is being...](https://www.wrbl.com/news/former-russell-county-football-coach-breaks-silence-says-he-is-being-retaliated-against-for-covid-stance/amp/)**
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> A former East Alabama high school football coach breaks his silence about playing games without testing during the pandemic. Mark Rose has spent 30 years coaching high school football in Alabama – …

> **[Column: High school coach takes brave stand against COVID-19](https://apnews.com/article/sports-alabama-football-coronavirus-pandemic-coaching-b95c052d99712652ddc5fa0daad189c0)**
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> For Mark Rose, football is more than a living. It's a way of life. But it's not worth dying for. Rose has become a lonely but powerful voice: a longtime high school coach — one of the more successful in football-mad Alabama — who finds it ludicrous...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5721 "2020-11-21T05:19:53Z")

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57,909,991 total cases  
1,377,745 dead  
40,108,259 recovered

In the US:

12,274,726 total cases  
260,283 dead  
7,316,323 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 57,260,061 total cases  
> 1,365,998 dead  
> 39,749,228 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 12,070,712 total cases  
> 258,333 dead  
> 7,243,488 recovered

Okay… last night I fell asleep early and had to wake up to post the numbers; as a result I failed to note a benchmark:

Yesterday was the first time that the worldwide daily deaths exceeded 11,000; that happened again today plus a slight increase over yesterday to end up at 11,089 deaths worldwide today.

Today’s benchmarks include:

The US exceeded 200,000 new cases today for the first time (201,083 to be exact).

The country with the next most new cases today was India, with 46,288. India is home to over 1,353,000,000 billion. They have more than 1 billion MORE people than the United States, many of them living in abject poverty, yet their new case total is about 1/5 of the US total today.

Also note that the US is now experiencing roughly 2,000 covid deaths per day.

For folks who aren’t keen on doing the math, the world is now experiencing more than 650,000 new cases every day.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5722 "2020-11-21T05:45:58Z")

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# Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint

There was a large variation in antibody levels among participants after eight months. However, there was only a slight decline in T cell levels and B cells actually increased after 8 months. That means that even if people get transiently infected due to low antibody levels, the rest of their immune system should eliminate the virus before they even experience symptoms.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html?smid=fb-nytscience&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0OzCZmK1DHSC\_EOwR9rgNSh\_94kIVM1v\_nFHuGM1\_mglTsf7ri0XDYfYI](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html?smid=fb-nytscience&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0OzCZmK1DHSC_EOwR9rgNSh_94kIVM1v_nFHuGM1_mglTsf7ri0XDYfYI)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5723 "2020-11-21T09:32:24Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The US exceeded 200,000 new cases today for the first time (201,083 to be exact).
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> The country with the next most new cases today was India, with 46,288. India is home to over 1,353,000,000 billion. They have more than 1 billion MORE people than the United States, many of them living in abject poverty, yet their new case total is about 1/5 of the US total today.

This is worth some serious pondering.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5724 "2020-11-21T15:24:23Z")

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> **[El Paso now seeking more morgue workers - San Antonio Express, 11/21/2020](http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/SanAntonioExpressNews/shared/ShowArticle.aspx?doc=SAEN%2F2020%2F11%2F21&entity=Ar00202&sk=D5B63E1A&mode=text)**
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> San Antonio Express - 11/21/2020

> El Paso officials are seeking applicants to work at the morgue as the city’s COVID-19 death toll mounts.
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> Officials currently are relying on low-level offenders from the El Paso County Jail to help move corpses. Ten mobile morgues are in place to handle the dead.
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> “All morgue attendants will be tasked with physically moving decedents,” the listing states. “All applicants must be able to lift between 100 to 400 lbs., with assistance. Not only is this assignment physically taxing, but it may be emotionally taxing as well.”
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> The new hires are needed because of the pandemic, officials said. The county is bracing for an increase in COVID-19 deaths and seeks to hire enough staff to rotate shifts throughout the week.
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> Attendants, who will work at the county’s Medical Examiner’s Office, will receive personal protective equipment. They also will be tested for the virus before starting. The job pays $27.20 an hour. Offenders from the county jail had been paid $2 an hour.
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> Applicants must be able to tolerate the sight and odor of the deceased, the listing states, as well as communicate effectively with grieving people who are under extreme duress.

That is a tall order for any amount of pay. 🙁

> There are over 37,000 active cases of COVID-19 in El Paso. Since the pandemic began, more than 79,000 residents have contracted the virus and 845 people have died.

Population of El Paso: 682,669 (2018).

> County Judge Ricardo Samaniego issued a shelter-in-place order Oct. 30, but Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton won an appeals court ruling last week that struck down the order.

ETA: As a reference point, San Antonio (Bexar County) has had 72,313 cases in a population of 2.4 million.

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