# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 291
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5825 "2020-11-26T06:32:49Z")
There’s been a lot of this by pols. I wish they could be heavily fined. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5826 "2020-11-26T07:36:51Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > I wish they could be heavily fined. We call that elections. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5827 "2020-11-26T13:40:58Z")
Or in 45-speak: You’re FIRED!!! And a damn good thing it is. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5828 "2020-11-26T16:24:59Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > There’s been a lot of this by pols. I wish they could be heavily fined. > [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > > [@Deeg](#): > > > > I wish they could be heavily fined. > > We call that elections. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > Or in 45-speak: You’re FIRED!!! > And a damn good thing it is. **Moderator Note** This is just a reminder to keep politics out of this forum. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5829 "2020-11-26T16:27:51Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > From the “Do as I say, not as I do” dept.– > > [Mayor of Denver apologizes for holiday travel after advising residents to stay put | TheHill](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/527667-mayor-of-denver-apologizes-for-holiday-travel-after-advising-residents) This probably doesn’t belong in this thread either. JMO. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5830 "2020-11-26T16:38:29Z")
"Junior Moderator Opinion " ??? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5831 "2020-11-26T16:40:42Z")
Just My Opinion, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5832 "2020-11-26T17:32:13Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > > [@Bootb](#): > > > > From the “Do as I say, not as I do” dept.– > > > > [Mayor of Denver apologizes for holiday travel after advising residents to stay put | TheHill](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/527667-mayor-of-denver-apologizes-for-holiday-travel-after-advising-residents) > > This probably doesn’t belong in this thread either. JMO. Actually, I think that one is permissible. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5834 "2020-11-26T18:00:21Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > My bad; I was unclear: the UK will end the lockdown _in England_ in a week or so. Rest easy, Bo. It’s less like the end of lockdown, more like a shift from Lockdown 2.0 to Lockdown 2.1. Virtually all of England is placed in “high alert” or “very high alert”. [BBC article](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55086621) - scroll down to see the alert level maps before and “after” lockdown. A [second BBC article](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518) lists areas and summarises rules. TLDR: if it’s risky but makes money (like having crowds at pro sports), we’ll probably allow it within safety rules; if it’s less risky but doesn’t make money (like having a couple of careful friends over for a drink), forget it. j ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5835 "2020-11-26T18:10:14Z")
Not breaking news, but I wanted everyone to see it. @Snowboarder_Bo, you rock! [![](https://i.imgur.com/3xIDvWG.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/3xIDvWG.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5836 "2020-11-26T18:19:39Z")
Agreed! (Love the “shredder”.) ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5837 "2020-11-26T18:23:30Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > Agreed! Another enthusiastic AGREE! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5838 "2020-11-26T18:57:03Z")
👍👍👍👍👍 ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5839 "2020-11-26T19:06:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Not breaking news, but I wanted everyone to see it. @Snowboarder_Bo, you rock! Someone, please post this and the image over in the “Person of the Year” thread. I would, but I don’t know how and it ain’t looking good that I will ever learn. Thank you. I will look forward to seeing it there. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5840 "2020-11-26T19:10:44Z")
So with SCOTUS ruling that states can’t limit church attendance, what’s next? Can’t close schools? Can’t close businesses? Can’t require people to wear masks? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5841 "2020-11-26T19:12:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > So with SCOTUS ruling that states can’t limit church attendance, what’s next? Can’t close schools? Can’t close businesses? Can’t require people to wear masks?. **Moderator Note** The judgement itself is appropriate for Breaking News, but further discussion of this should be taken to an existing thread in P&E. > [@Supreme Court: Religious Freedom More Important than Fighting Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466): > > "The Supreme Court placed religious freedom before pandemic precautions Wednesday night, temporarily blocking recent rules in New York that severely restricted gatherings at houses of worship in areas hit hardest by COVID-19. The court’s new, more conservative majority ruled 5-4 that Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s limits on churches, synagogues and other houses of worship to 10 or 25 worshipers in hard-hit regions appeared to violate the First Amendment’s Free Exercise Clause. “Even in a pandemic, the Co… Colibri QZ Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5842 "2020-11-26T19:53:44Z")
Ah; as always: thank you all for your kind words. I don’t know that I (or anyone, really 🤔 ) would agree that anything I’ve done rises to that level of accomplishment, but I do appreciate the sentiment. That it comes with cats is icing on the cake! I’m happy to help; thank you again. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5843 "2020-11-26T20:37:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > don’t know that I (or anyone, really 🤔 ) would agree that anything I’ve done rises to that level of accomplishment Heck, **Bo** until a few weeks ago I thought you were a CDC/John’s Hopkins guru/whiz kid that was my prime, very much trusted source of the best, most reliable, digestible data that a “Doper scouted out and posted every day, no matter what. **Bo** and the New York Times, that is what I count on. Pulitzer Prize, here you come. Now I know you are our very own guru/ whiz kid, even better. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5844 "2020-11-27T05:24:50Z")
61,308,613 total cases 1,437,840 dead 42,396,651 recovered In the US: 13,248,676 total cases 269,555 dead 7,846,872 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 60,720,993 total cases > 1,426,841 dead > 42,032,104 recovered > > In the US: > > 13,137,962 total cases > 268,219 dead > 7,805,280 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5845 "2020-11-27T09:49:36Z")
Maybe not exactly “news” although these numbers are from Q2 and the article is new, but still worth saying again, I think. > **[Data from 45 countries show containing COVID vs saving the economy is a false...](https://theconversation.com/data-from-45-countries-show-containing-covid-vs-saving-the-economy-is-a-false-dichotomy-150533)** > > The notion of a trade-off between health measures and the economy is not supported by data from 45 countries. The numbers continue to show that the choice between saving the economy and containing the virus is a false dichotomy. The article shows several graphs by country of the deaths per million graphed against factors like GDP, imports, exports, consumer spending. There is not a direct correlation between the death rate of a country and the economic indicators. > [@](#): > > ## It’s not a zero-sum game > > The standard economic indicators reviewed here show, overall, countries that have contained the virus also tend to have had less severe economic impacts than those that haven’t. > > No one should be misled into believing there is zero-sum choice between saving lives and saving the economy. That is a false dichotomy. > > If there is anything to be learned regarding how to deal with future pandemics, it is that rapidly containing the pandemic may well lessen its economic impact. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=290) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=292)