# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 292
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5846 "2020-11-27T13:01:39Z")
It’s not clear to me that one of those is a dependent variable. In fact, it now seems much more likely that it’s not. Perhaps on a different domain it would be, but on the domain that has actually existed, there doesn’t seem to be a real connection. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5847 "2020-11-28T05:13:05Z")
61,988,071 total cases 1,449,114 dead 42,788,667 recovered In the US: 13,454,254 total cases 271,026 dead 7,945,582 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 61,308,613 total cases > 1,437,840 dead > 42,396,651 recovered > > In the US: > > 13,248,676 total cases > 269,555 dead > 7,846,872 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5848 "2020-11-28T05:32:32Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 271,026 dead > 7,945,582 recovered 3.3% mortality. Getting better, ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5849 "2020-11-28T10:19:08Z")
The lifting of State bans on evictions has led to a large increase in Covid cases, leading people to fear the lifting of the federal moratorium on evictions next month. The study shows that an additional 433K cases and over 10K deaths were the result of lifting the bans on eviction. > **[Evictions have led to hundreds of thousands of additional Covid-19 cases,...](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/27/evictions-have-led-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-extra-covid-cases-.html)** > > Expiring state eviction bans have led to hundreds of thousands of additional coronavirus cases, new research finds. > [@](#): > > Expiring state eviction bans have led to hundreds of thousands of additional coronavirus cases, new research finds, raising alarm about what will happen when [the national eviction moratorium lapses next month](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/12-million-americans-set-to-lose-unemployment-benefits-by-years-end.html). > . . . > The researchers, from the University of California, Los Angeles, University of California, San Francisco, Johns Hopkins University, Boston University and Wake Forest University School of Law, found that lifting state moratoriums and allowing eviction proceedings to continue caused as many as 433,700 excess cases of [Covid-19](https://www.cnbc.com/coronavirus/) and 10,700 additional deaths in the U.S. between March and September. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5850 "2020-11-28T14:46:30Z")
Undead Danish mink rise from their graves. > **[Culled minks with COVID-19 mutation rise from their graves in Denmark -...](https://globalnews.ca/news/7485320/coronavirus-mink-graves-denmark/)** > > "We assume it is the mink that were in the upper layer that pop up,'' officials said, calling it a "natural process." ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5851 "2020-11-28T20:31:14Z")
11 November 2020: [U.S. sets record for coronavirus hospitalizations with over 60,000](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizatios-surge-united-states-60k/) 28 November 2020: [U.S. hospitalizations top 90,000 for the first time](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizations-top-90000-united-states/) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5852 "2020-11-28T20:44:39Z")
If you think it’s bad now, just wait 14-17 more days. That’ll take us right into Christmas, where it’ll probably spike even higher. At this rate, some hospitals are going to be completely overwhelmed. I won’t be surprised to see some noticeable attrition among healthcare workers on the front lines. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5853 "2020-11-28T22:03:49Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 11 November 2020: [U.S. sets record for coronavirus hospitalizations with over 60,000](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizatios-surge-united-states-60k/) > > 28 November 2020: [U.S. hospitalizations top 90,000 for the first time](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizations-top-90000-united-states/) Does anyone know what percentage of covid patients who are sick enough to be hospitalized are dying now? Let’s go with “now” being from September 1 forward. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5854 "2020-11-28T23:31:29Z")
[The Latest: Researchers urge Arizona shutdown, mask mandate](https://apnews.com/article/health-south-korea-seoul-coronavirus-pandemic-economy-373234e3d672023d98184a10fc98692e) > [@](#): > > University of Arizona researchers say the current surge in the coronavirus outbreak will present the state with a hospital crisis that could become a disaster unless the state takes steps such as ordering a three-week stay-home shutdown and implementing a statewide mask mandate. > > Members of the university’s COVID Modeling Team said failing to take such steps would be like facing a major forest fire without evacuation orders. It also recommends providing economic aid to affected small businesses and families and preventing evictions and foreclosures. > > The team has tracked the outbreak since last spring and made its recommendations in a letter Friday to the state Department of Health Services. > > Many local governments have imposed mask mandates since Gov. Doug Ducey last summer lifted a prohibition on such orders. The local mandates cover an estimated 90% of the state’s population but enforcement is lax or nonexistent in some places. > > Arizona on Saturday reported 4,136 additional known COVID-19 cases and 36 more deaths. ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5855 "2020-11-29T02:23:59Z")
A university research team says, eh, and offers guidance? I wonder if they’ve been commissioned by the state to provide such advice. The article doesn’t say. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5856 "2020-11-29T02:38:08Z")
I’m sure you had a point, but, eh, your post doesn’t say. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5857 "2020-11-29T03:21:01Z")
Eh, that’s a good point. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5858 "2020-11-29T06:12:50Z")
62,573,422 total cases 1,458,309 dead 43,194,258 recovered In the US: 13,610,357 total cases 272,254 dead 8,041,239 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 61,988,071 total cases > 1,449,114 dead > 42,788,667 recovered > > In the US: > > 13,454,254 total cases > 271,026 dead > 7,945,582 recovered ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5859 "2020-11-29T18:09:17Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I’m sure you had a point, but, eh, your post doesn’t say. My point was that people should stay in their lanes. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5860 "2020-11-29T18:20:16Z")
And what lane do you suppose the University of Arizona’s Covid Modeling Team are in? ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5861 "2020-11-29T18:23:44Z")
Dunno. I hope they’ve been commissioned by the state, to do that research and recommend those policies. Not sure I’d guess they are, though. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5862 "2020-11-29T18:30:12Z")
Well, I don’t have to guess to know how much effort you put into your criticism. Zippo. I don’t get the impression you even know what “stay in your lane” means. ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5863 "2020-11-29T18:30:56Z")
Here’s some back story that may shed some light: > **[Arizona tells coronavirus modeling team of state university experts to stop work](https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-tells-coronavirus-modeling-team-of-state-university-experts-to-stop-work/article_99a4348b-5007-5632-8eb6-22e3e2d57a29.html)** > > State officials say the team of experts from the University of Arizona and ASU to "pause" work so it can switch to secret federal modeling figures to make decisions about > In a statement, the Arizona Department of Health Services said the projections prepared by the university professors were part of a “variety of models,” a list that included predictions from Harvard, one developed at the University of Washington, and the one prepared by FEMA in conjunction with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. > > In the statement, the department said it appreciated the work of the professionals in developing a state model, to provide “another model for consideration.” The department said that model was completed April 20, and it’s now shifted away from “predictive models.” > > “With months of data now available, we have shifted our primary focus from predictive models to using all of our real-time, Arizona specific data to assess the health of our health-care system and evaluate the trend of our cases to make decisions that are best for Arizona.” ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5864 "2020-11-29T18:33:35Z")
And a bit more light on the work of the modelers: > To combat those predictions, the modelers made the following recommendations to the state: > > - Immediate implementation of a statewide mask mandate > - A state-wide shelter-in-place ordinance beginning Tuesday, December 1st extending through Tuesday, December 22 that would include the closures of indoor dining and bars. > - To alleviate economic hardship imposed by the shelter-in-place order, the state should pass emergency COVID-19 relief measures for small businesses and families affected by closures. > - If a state-wide mandate is not enacted, county and municipal leaders should be granted greater authority to enact their own shelter-in-place orders, business closures, and restrictions on public gatherings. > **[Letter to ADHS: Arizona COVID-19 modeling team recommends 3-week shutdown](https://www.abc15.com/news/coronavirus/letter-to-adhs-arizona-covid-19-modeling-team-recommends-3-week-shutdown)** > > Some members of Arizona’s COVID-19 Modeling Team are urging state leaders to impose a three-week shelter-in-place order to avoid a health catastrophe, according to a letter sent to the Arizona Department of Health Services. They appear to be doing more than just crunching data. If you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5865 "2020-11-29T18:41:33Z")
Sounds like they are making recommendations based on the implications shown from their models. Is that what you mean? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=291) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=293)