# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 293
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5866 "2020-11-29T18:47:28Z")
> [@SayTwo](#): > > They appear to be doing more than just crunching data. If you know what I mean. I do not know what you mean. Could you please state it plainly? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5867 "2020-11-29T18:47:31Z")
> [@SayTwo](#): > > They appear to be doing more than just crunching data. If you know what I mean Perhaps if you add _nudge nudge, wink wink_…or, better yet, actually stop with the hinting and tell us what you actually mean? ---
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5868 "2020-11-29T18:53:06Z")
They aren’t just projecting case numbers if no new suppression measures are put in place. They are recommending detailed and far-reaching legislation. (Here’s the [letter in full](https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20417751-azdhs-recommendations-11_2020).) Those public policy matters are outside the scope of data modeling, which is why they may not be remaining within their own realms of expertise – or, if you will, staying in their lane. What’s not clear is whether the state reversed its earlier course and welcomed their input. I would certainly hope so. Because if not, writing this letter and now having it in the press is not a good look for them. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5869 "2020-11-29T18:58:05Z")
This is pretty disconnected from reality. Yes, their models are not projecting all the side effects of their proposed policies. Everyone gets that they are mainly focused on covid spread. And who gives a crap whether the government “welcomed their input”? Wtf? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5870 "2020-11-29T19:15:57Z")
> [@SayTwo](#): > > Those public policy matters are outside the scope of data modeling, which is why they may not be remaining within their own realms of expertise – or, if you will, staying in their lane. > > What’s not clear is whether the state reversed its earlier course and welcomed their input. I would certainly hope so. Because if not, writing this letter and now having it in the press is not a good look for them Has the state specifically requested you to weigh in on this issue? If so, don’t you think you should declare this political influence? If not, do you think you should ‘stay in your lane’ and not say anything about it? ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5871 "2020-11-29T19:31:04Z")
Uhh, no one requested you to critique his post, thorny. Stay in your lane. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5872 "2020-11-29T19:40:19Z")
Perhaps we can agree that staying strictly within one’s lane is not helpful to a discussion forum, and return to or regularly scheduled discussion of breaking covid news. I think i saw something about nyc restarting in-person school for k-5, with testing. But i can’t find it now, and I’m wondering about the logistics of the testing. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5873 "2020-11-29T20:03:48Z")
The New York Times: When school buildings reopen, the city will significantly increase its random testing in schools: rather than testing a sampling of students and staff in each school building once a month, the city will conduct tests weekly. Students will not be allowed to attend school in person unless they have signed consent forms from their parents, allowing them to be tested. Nothing else about New York City’s safety plan will change: all staff members and students will still be required to wear masks throughout the day, and social distancing will be mandated. But the city will largely shed its hybrid learning plan, under which children physically attended school a few days a week and learned remotely the rest of the time. /end copy ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5874 "2020-11-30T02:29:48Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I think i saw something about nyc restarting in-person school for k-5, with testing. But i can’t find it now, and I’m wondering about the logistics of the testing. Here’s Mayor de Blasio on the reopening of NYC schools. I didn’t watch it, but I’m thinking there’s more logistics in his press conference about it. It’s about 38 minutes long. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Jkya40JuwC8/hqdefault.jpg "NYC Schools Start Phased Reopening in December: Mayor Bill de Blasio | NBC New York") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkya40JuwC8) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5875 "2020-11-30T05:05:31Z")
63,072,475 total cases 1,465,181 dead 43,545,829 recovered In the US: 13,750,404 total cases 273,072 dead 8,107,203 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 62,573,422 total cases > 1,458,309 dead > 43,194,258 recovered > > In the US: > > 13,610,357 total cases > 272,254 dead > 8,041,239 recovered ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5876 "2020-11-30T13:22:33Z")
States that have experienced their highest (seven-day averaged) reported COVID daily infection rates over the Thanksgiving Weekend (Nov 26-29, 2020) Alaska Massachusetts Washington Oregon Delaware Virginia West Virginia California Tennessee North Carolina (Washington D.C.) Mississippi Only 11 states and the District of Columbia. Astonishingly, the rate is going down in many states (although it is rising sharply in New York and some others). If it were not for all the Thanksgiving Weekend travel and get-togethers, which I fear will give us a new surge, I might be heartened by this. By the way, overseas the rate is shooting up spectacularly in Turkey, and rising sharply in some other countries, like Brazil, Russia, and the Ukraine. And India has risen to be the country with the second-highest rates again, just after the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5877 "2020-11-30T16:01:42Z")
[5 Arizona schools don’t have enough staff to open today.](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/scottsdale-education/2020/11/29/5-scottsdale-schools-close-monday-due-to-lack-of-staffing/6461135002/) While the article says there haven’t been COVID outbreaks, it doesn’t explain where all the absent staff members are. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5878 "2020-11-30T16:11:13Z")
Well, it looks like teachers were abandoning ship right off the bat. > **[Survey: 751 Arizona teachers have resigned or retired since the beginning of...](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2020/09/17/survey-751-arizona-teachers-have-left-since-beginning-school/3479998001/)** > > About 28% of teaching positions in Arizona remained vacant at the start of the school year, compared with 21% last year, the data shows. (as implied in the snapshot, the article also mentions Arizona has had a teacher shortage or years) ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5879 "2020-11-30T17:44:33Z")
Yeah, AZ teachers haven’t been very happy with the conditions for a very long time. They are usually treated as not-very-well-paid babysitters, not as the highly trained professionals they are. Small wonder they are bailing. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5880 "2020-11-30T20:18:44Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > My point is, and what frustrates me is, and what destroys my faith in my fellow Americansi s that we COULD beat this. We could knock it down until it’s no longer the life and economy destroying menace that it is. (Regardless of what any other country has done.) We could, but we refuse. This doesn’t give me much hope re climate change either; I afraid we’ll drag the rest of humanity down with us. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5881 "2020-12-01T01:04:11Z")
Ordinarily I would welcome this as good news, but with the current occupant of the Oval Office, one always wonders how much worse it can get. > **[U.S. coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas resigns](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-atlas/scott-atlas-resigns-as-special-adviser-to-trump-on-coronavirus-fox-news-idUSKBN28B3AS?il=0)** > > Dr. Scott Atlas has resigned as special adviser on the coronavirus to President Donald Trump, a White House official said on Monday, after a controversial four months during which he clashed repeatedly with other members of the coronavirus task... I guess he’s grifted enough for now. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5882 "2020-12-01T02:51:26Z")
According to [the AP article](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-public-health-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-pandemic-infectious-diseases-97e053b48803b0dced260032ea7aabbc), he was hired as a “special government employee” which limited the length to 130 days, and he limited out. Meantime, hospitals in Rhode Island have hit capacity. > “Hospitals at capacity due to COVID,” the state said in a statewide emergency alert. “Help the frontline by staying home as much as possible for the next two weeks.” How many states are now reporting their hospitals cannot accept any more COVID patients? How long before they can’t accept any more patients _at all_? > **[Rhode Island sends alert: hospitals reach COVID-19 capacity](https://apnews.com/article/business-rhode-island-gina-raimondo-coronavirus-pandemic-57fdfc668d122a8fefafb19fc85769fe)** > > PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — Rhode Island's hospitals reached their COVID-19 capacity on Monday, the same day the state's two-week pause, meant to control the rise in new coronavirus cases that threatens to overwhelm the state's health care system, took... ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5883 "2020-12-01T03:07:27Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > This doesn’t give me much hope re climate change either; I afraid we’ll drag the rest of humanity down with us. On the other hand, how hopeful about climate change would you be if we were more like successfully-covid-fighting country China? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5884 "2020-12-01T06:12:32Z")
63,589,977 total cases 1,473,927 dead 43,985,242 recovered In the US: 13,920,038 total cases 274,332 dead 8,223,391 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 63,072,475 total cases > 1,465,181 dead > 43,545,829 recovered > > In the US: > > 13,750,404 total cases > 273,072 dead > 8,107,203 recovered ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/5885 "2020-12-01T12:42:37Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@FigNorton](#): > > On the other hand, how hopeful about climate change would you be if we were more like successfully-covid-fighting country China? The issue of climate change is a bit much for a breaking news thread about Covid-19. If you want to discuss climate change, China, the impact of Covid-19 on climate change, etc. feel free, just do so in a new thread, and link back to this thread if necessary for context. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=292) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=294)