# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/582 "2020-03-11T17:02:25Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > “Okay people! Okay! quiet down; let’s get started. Let’s make a little more room, we’ve still got a few more people outside. Alright. Thank you all for coming to this meeting. I know it’s standing-room-only crowded, but we wanted to be sure that we had everyone on-board with the new company procedures to help stop the spread of this highly contagious disease.” “We know you’re all worried, and we’re all here for each other. Everyone, hold hands, and sing the company anthem to show your solidarity with each other!”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/583 "2020-03-11T17:26:57Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > duplicate post due to 502/504 server errors FWIW Side note: sometimes when I “submit reply” and get a 502/504 error, instead of resending the post, I open another window and navigate to the “user CP” recent posts, and it turns out that the post DID go through. IOW the error did not block the post from appearing. \ ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/584 "2020-03-11T17:42:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > FWIW Side note: sometimes when I “submit reply” and get a 502/504 error, instead of resending the post, I open another window and navigate to the “user CP” recent posts, and it turns out that the post DID go through. IOW the error did not block the post from appearing. \ Side note to the side note: sometimes when I “submit reply” and get a 502/504 error, instead of resending the post, I open another window and navigate to… email, or imgur, or [CNN.com](http://CNN.com). Check a few things, come back and either refresh the window or close it, find the thread I posted to and voila, there’s my reply. Oh, I’ve been copying my replies before I hit _submit,_ just in case… Okay, gotta close this and sally forth in search of hand sanitizer and wipes. Wish me luck! (I’ve just been washing my hands so far, but I’m pushin’ 70 and getting on a plane next week. Figure I’ll need some germ-killin’ to brave O’Hare…) ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/585 "2020-03-11T17:56:41Z")
This article is really interesting. Especially if you are into stats: [Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now | by Tomas Pueyo | Medium](https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/586 "2020-03-11T18:23:04Z")
I see no new case total for the US since last night–does that reflect no new cases, a change in reporting protocols, or something else? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/587 "2020-03-11T18:29:00Z")
nm 504 ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/588 "2020-03-11T18:29:39Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > This article is really interesting. Especially if you are into stats: [Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now | by Tomas Pueyo | Medium](https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca) I just sent that to my county council member. I’m in King County, WA. The other council members provide daily updates and mine has emailed ONE since this started. I’m pissed at him. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/589 "2020-03-11T18:37:35Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > Here’s a good one, though as it’s NYTimes it might be behind a paywall. > > Side note: A couple weeks back, the site gave me a popup offering an e-subscription for a dollar a week for a year. I happily ponied up. sn: They tried to charge me $25/month, which seemed excessive. /sn > [@susan](#): > > I see no new case total for the US since last night–does that reflect no new cases, a change in reporting protocols, or something else? Likely to reporting protocols. I understand that Dr. Fauci’s testimony today stated that the US was looking down the barrel of millions of deaths. I, personally, am getting tired of people whining about the measures we need to keep each other safe. Let’s tackle the problems inherent in something like closing schools, such as school meal programs, rather than fighting to keep schools open and raising community risk. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/590 "2020-03-11T19:05:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > FWIW Side note: sometimes when I “submit reply” and get a 502/504 error, instead of resending the post, I open another window and navigate to the “user CP” recent posts, and it turns out that the post DID go through. IOW the error did not block the post from appearing. \ Yeah; me too. But I didn’t hit post over and over again. That was one post that somehow posted twice. then I tried to edit the last one to say “duplicate” and instead it posted a new post that said “duplicate”. So I tried to edit the 2nd (now of 3 posts) again it posted another new post instead, and now the timer was expired on the first tow posts. Then I gave up and reported it in case the Mods wanted to try and clean it up, apologizing for the trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/591 "2020-03-11T19:09:25Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I see no new case total for the US since last night–does that reflect no new cases, a change in reporting protocols, or something else? [The Johns Hopkins site](https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1cnB4UuOYuu2DNYoCsIwM9x5iJp6Gxm8VXUT8Hs2AZI3cw_KF1BrsN29Q#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) does not update it’s data as often as it says it updates the website itself; it lags considerably behind [the World O Meters site](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/). For instance, J H shows 121,977 total confirmed infections so far, while WOM shows 125,599. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/592 "2020-03-11T19:14:56Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > This article is really interesting. Especially if you are into stats: [Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now | by Tomas Pueyo | Medium](https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca) That is an excellent article; thank you for linking it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/593 "2020-03-11T19:24:27Z")
[Tests show new virus lives on some surfaces for up to 3 days](https://apnews.com/fe0239e95b8ad1037639ed833b990e48) > [@](#): > > For this study, researchers used a nebulizer device to put samples of the new virus into the air, imitating what might happen if an infected person coughed or made the virus airborne some other way. > > They found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. [https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf) is a direct link to the paper itself. NOTE: this is NOT peer reviewed yet. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/594 "2020-03-11T19:37:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Tests show new virus lives on some surfaces for up to 3 days](https://apnews.com/fe0239e95b8ad1037639ed833b990e48) > [https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf) is a direct link to the paper itself. NOTE: this is NOT peer reviewed yet. Out of an abundance of caution, I’ve been using disposable latex gloves to open mail. Then I set the contents aside for a few days before handling it again and disinfect any surface it touched. People lick envelopes and mail is handled a lot between the sender and the receiver. I get a lot of mail. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/595 "2020-03-11T19:37:24Z")
Influenza kills 200,000 to 600,000 people each year. Any illness can be severe if you have enough other problems and/or insufficient medical care. But children under three months do not have a fully developed immune system. Children can get very sick with influenza and similar viruses. They tend to get better care and are resilient, so most get better in the US. But with coronavirus, you don’t seem to be seeing the expected number of critically ill youngsters. If the virus was active for a couple months before strong actions were taken, it is not unreasonable to think it may be widely spread already. Comparisons to the flu are not great. The flu epidemic of 1918 occurred in a world after devastating war with unprecedented travel, considerable poverty and malnutrition and areas without great medical care. And influenza does kill people. But saying “it is better/worse than the flu” might mislead people about taking sensible precautions. People may not know how bad the flu can be in severe years. And it differs a lot from year to year. Washing hands? Reasonable. Postponing large gatherings like parades? You can make a case. Schools? No harm in short closures, but probably premature. Company meetings? Not my call, but guess how I feel. Vacations? Cruises and China are probably cheap at the moment, but I say nay nay. A lot of flights to parts of Italy and China are unavailable for the moment. Will the States have millions of deaths? I can’t see it - I think it is more widespread and undertested than believed. Of course, no one knows. But no. Hospitals are overwhelmed, but concern and hysteria during flu and croup seasons also overwhelms hospitals. Time will tell. I don’t know Vegas we’ll, and am not John Pinette, but closing an MGM buffet is usually the first step on the road to recovery. In Canada, the head health honcho might be a doctor I knew growing up. A very decent and competent guy. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/596 "2020-03-11T19:49:13Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [The Johns Hopkins site](https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1cnB4UuOYuu2DNYoCsIwM9x5iJp6Gxm8VXUT8Hs2AZI3cw_KF1BrsN29Q#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) does not update it’s data as often as it says it updates the website itself; it lags considerably behind [the World O Meters site](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/). > > For instance, J H shows 121,977 total confirmed infections so far, while WOM shows 125,599. Interesting, because the [Hopkins map](https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1aNJaY8Qbu_e55Z_UEr7mHbbQpjVq0bXFLkdq0N-xjltLseqjWN01uqNA#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) shows 124,910, but the US totals haven’t changed since yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/597 "2020-03-11T19:50:59Z")
Three TSA agents at our local airport (San Jose International) have tested [positive for COVID-19](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/11/814331110/3-tsa-screeners-in-san-jose-calif-have-contracted-coronavirus-agency-says). It’s possible that they may have come into contact with thousands of travelers before being tested. This is the airport that we use. I’m thinking that our vacation to Washington at the end of April isn’t going to happen. Alaskan is refunding for flights through the month of March; maybe they’ll extend that to April travelers, too. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/598 "2020-03-11T19:53:39Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Interesting, because the [Hopkins map](https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1aNJaY8Qbu_e55Z_UEr7mHbbQpjVq0bXFLkdq0N-xjltLseqjWN01uqNA#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) shows 124,910, but the US totals haven’t changed since yesterday. Aye the JH site is compromised; that’s why I switched to WOM a few days ago for my daily stats updates. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/599 "2020-03-11T19:58:54Z")
Washington’s governor banned large gatherings today. My apartment complex accordingly canceled the St. Pat’s Day party. I wasn’t going anyway. I’m definitely not a germaphobe. I spent too many years in a classroom for that. But I’m acting more like one now. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/600 "2020-03-11T20:34:50Z")
Here is an example of good proactive leadership vs. the mess or federal government has become. I received an email today from the Washington State DOH Nursing Commission. It outlines a plan for volunteering to help in WA that includes the dropping of state licensure. “, _while an emergency proclamation of the Governor is in effect, a volunteer health practitioner who is licensed in another state may practice in Washington without obtaining a Washington license if he or she is in good standing in all states of licensure and is registered in the volunteer health practitioner system. These emergency volunteers will help meet emerging demands for health practitioners in areas impacted by COVID-19._” ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/601 "2020-03-11T20:44:11Z")
What’s the latest news out of Japan? It occurred to me recently that it was known as a hotspot recently, but I haven’t heard much mention since, unlike China, Italy, and Iran. No news is good news, I hope? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=31)