# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6067 "2020-12-14T04:04:26Z")

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Prolly gonna see a lot more of this type of news story over the next few months:

> **[Los Angeles, San Francisco counties break COVID-19 records](https://apnews.com/article/california-coronavirus-pandemic-d3951e5ce2fc667036aaa8365c19618b)**
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> LOS ANGELES (AP) — The first shipment of COVID-19 vaccine has arrived in Los Angeles County, which again broke a record for coronavirus hospitalizations this weekend as San Francisco County reported its highest number of COVID-19 cases since the...

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> Statewide, more than 30,000 confirmed coronavirus cases were [reported Sunday](https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19CasesDashboard_15931020425010/Cases?:embed=y&:showVizHome=no), making California’s total at 1,551,766. Millions of Californians in the majority of the state are under stay-at-home orders.
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> In Los Angeles County, the nation’s most populous, more than 4,000 people were hospitalized for COVID-19, according to figures released Sunday afternoon. More than one-fifth of hospitalized patients are in intensive care units.
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> The county’s new figures break the previous record set only the day before, with 3,850 patients in a hospital, and follows the trend of hospitalizations increasing nearly every day since Nov. 1.
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> LA County Health Director Barbara Ferrer warned on Monday — when hospitalizations were 2,988 — that the county could see the statistic to climb to 4,000 within two weeks. It happened in six days.
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> In San Francisco County, health officials reported 323 new cases on Saturday, the highest number of new coronavirus infections there yet. San Francisco emerged as a leader in the state’s response to the pandemic early on but has since moved to battling its own cases.

There’s more in the article about vaccine distribution in California; just too much to quote here.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6068 "2020-12-14T04:13:26Z")

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Our local paper is reporting (AP story) that all ICU beds in central California are full. This may be an estimate.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6069 "2020-12-14T04:36:52Z")

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[New Zealand offers travel bubble with Australia if coronavirus cases stay low.](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-14/new-zealand-cabinet-agrees-to-trans-tasman-bubble-with-australia/12981258)  
Pretty big news over here - New Zealanders have been able to travel to Australia without going into a two-week quarantine\* for a little while now, but not the reverse. In fact, _any_ international travel to or from Australia has been heavily restricted.  
But as Australia hasn’t had any new locally-transmitted cases in…two weeks, a week-and-a-half?  
Anyway, there’s fair odds this will go ahead. Thinking vaguely about my wife and I making the trip ourselves; New Zealand is beautiful, by all accounts, and it’ll be quite some time before we can go anywhere else internationally.

\*Two-week quarantine is standard for all international arrivals right now - pretty pricey, too.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6070 "2020-12-14T05:43:51Z")

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72,647,787 total cases  
1,618,913 dead  
50,865,504 recovered

In the US:

16,737,267 total cases  
306,459 dead  
9,724,439 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 72,109,510 total cases  
> 1,611,637 dead  
> 50,492,257 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 16,549,366 total cases  
> 305,082 dead  
> 9,644,325 recovered

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**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6071 "2020-12-14T09:28:17Z")

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New Zealand is also planning a travel bubble with the Cook Islands, which have remained Covid-free. But opening up to the South Pacific will be approached with a great deal of caution - no-one wants small Pacific nations (which are primarily accessed through New Zealand) to get Covid infections that they do not have the resources to handle.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6072 "2020-12-14T09:45:32Z")

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> [@si\_blakely](#):
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> But opening up to the South Pacific will be approached with a great deal of caution - no-one wants small Pacific nations (which are primarily accessed through New Zealand) to get Covid infections that they do not have the resources to handle.

Indeed! Australia and New Zealand are both pretty wealthy countries, but a lot of these little nations aren’t. Bad as an outbreak here would be/have been, it’d be devastating to them.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6073 "2020-12-14T09:55:14Z")

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> [@si\_blakely](#):
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> But opening up to the South Pacific will be approached with a great deal of caution

It will also cause more crazy political tensions with war-on-covid governments in Australia. It’s already the case that people returning to Australia from NZ are causing turmoil because they “might have been in contact with people from other countries”, and Australia has never been comfortable with NZ’s South Pacific travel rules.

Incidentally, the police visited my relative at home, to make sure she was obeying quarantine rules. After she had just been released from compulsory inter-state travel 14 day hotel quarantine, with no other relevant quarantine rules at all. A mixture of fear and incompetence.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6074 "2020-12-14T13:53:06Z")

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States that have experienced their highest daily COVID reported cases (seven-day averaged) on Friday Dec 11 or later:

Maine  
New York  
Massachusetts  
Pennsylvania  
Ohio  
California  
Maryland  
South Carolina  
North Carolina  
Tennessee  
Arkansas  
Arizona  
Oklahoma  
Mississippi  
Alabama

It looks as if Georgia is poised to finally exceed that artificial-looking spike on November 6 that has kept it off these lists.

The good news is that a lot of states are still declining from highs experienced days or even weeks ago. That’s a good trend. But 15 states have new highs, with a couple of them poised to be added to the lists, or with highs that were just a couple of days before my cutoff.

In international news, Turkey has suddenly reported an absurdly high daily rate, exceeding even the United States. Something odd going on there

> **[New COVID-19 Cases Worldwide - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases)**
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> Have countries flattened the curve? Daily confirmed new COVID-19 cases for the most affected countries over time.

Apparently they’ve changed how they’re reporting. Now they’re listing cases, rather than patients

> **[Turkey adjusts coronavirus cases up to 1.75 million](https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-turkey-adjusts-coronavirus-cases-million.html)**
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> Turkey has recorded nearly 1.75 million cases since the start of the pandemic, the health ministry said on Thursday, after releasing a significantly lower toll including only patients requiring medical care.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6075 "2020-12-14T21:06:52Z")

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It’s wonderful seeing all the news reports as vaccines are administered in the UK last week and the US starting today. But it’s a hell of day for those of us who aren’t big fans of needles. I can’t watch the news or open a website without seeing a person getting jabbed.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6076 "2020-12-14T21:29:25Z")

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I’m with you there, sibling. I have to cover my eyes.

j

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6077 "2020-12-15T05:16:51Z")

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73,190,427 total cases  
1,627,900 dead  
51,324,489 recovered

In the US:

16,942,822 total cases  
308,089 dead  
9,871,663 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 72,647,787 total cases  
> 1,618,913 dead  
> 50,865,504 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 16,737,267 total cases  
> 306,459 dead  
> 9,724,439 recovered

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6078 "2020-12-15T11:15:04Z")

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My daughter got her first dose of the vaccine at work yesterday(shes a nurse).

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6079 "2020-12-15T11:26:09Z")

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Now that’s worth a celebratory drink

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6080 "2020-12-15T15:31:35Z")

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Nice! Nice to hear some positive news in the pandemic fight for a change.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6081 "2020-12-15T15:46:14Z")

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For the first time since this whole shitshow started, I feel like there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. 🍾

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6082 "2020-12-15T15:49:12Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> For the first time since this whole shitshow started, I feel like there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. 🍾-

I’m feeling that way this morning, too.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6083 "2020-12-15T16:08:40Z")

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Wonderful news!

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6084 "2020-12-15T17:02:09Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> My daughter got her first dose of the vaccine at work yesterday(shes a nurse)

Whoop!

Good to see that.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6085 "2020-12-15T18:21:30Z")

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Only a few states have new highest-ever daily case reports (seven day average) on December 14, but at least two of those are shooting up rapidly

New Hampshire  
Delaware  
South Carolina  
North Carolina  
Tennessee  
Arizona  
Oklahoma

After shooting up briefly because of a change in the way they record their data, Turkey has dropped back down to a reasonable level.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6086 "2020-12-15T21:04:17Z")

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So Moderna should get approved on Thursday.  
How many doses have we reserved of their production? Anyone know?

I know it only needs to transport at -4°f. Then can be kept in fridges for weeks. That sounds like it will be far easier to get this to everyone.

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