# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 304
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6087 "2020-12-15T22:13:03Z")
Apparently, you also have to worry about jiggling the Pfizer vaccine too much as well. Thank god there’s alternatives. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6088 "2020-12-16T00:35:16Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > How many doses have we reserved of their production? Anyone know? Initial order was for 100 million, same as Pfizer (so enough for 50 million inoculations at 2/person). Just a few days ago the Trump administration actually did something right and secured another 100 million to be delivered by June 21. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6089 "2020-12-16T00:35:17Z")
> **[With Pfizer shot spoken for, U.S. snaps up 100M more Moderna COVID-19 vaccine...](https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-shot-supply-rocks-u-s-taps-option-to-secure-100m-more-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-doses)** > > With one COVID-19 vaccine authorized in the U.S. | The U.S. government snapped up 100 million more doses of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine candidate, boosting supplies ahead of a potential FDA authorization later this week—and after officials struck... It looks like we previously ordered 100m and just contacted for a second 100m. The first 20m can be delivered soon, the last 100m “second quarter”, and i missed when the 80m will arrive. Remember it takes 2 doses per person, so that’s enough for 100m people total. I guess i ain’t getting any of that, either. I’m kinda low in line. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6090 "2020-12-16T03:28:41Z")
I heard on the radio today that some people who got the vaccination were getting false positives for HIV. Anybody know anything about this? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6091 "2020-12-16T03:32:49Z")
Australian vaccine still being tested. > **[Why the Queensland University COVID-19 Vaccine Failed – The Wire Science](https://science.thewire.in/health/queensland-covid-19-vaccine-hiv-protein/)** > > Had the vaccine been rolled out on a wider scale, there would have been many 'false positive' HIV tests. This would have created unnecessary anxiety while people sought further clarification about their HIV status. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6092 "2020-12-16T05:30:11Z")
73,809,725 total cases 1,641,741 dead 51,819,551 recovered In the US: 17,143,779 total cases 311,068 dead 10,007,853 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 73,190,427 total cases > 1,627,900 dead > 51,324,489 recovered > > In the US: > > 16,942,822 total cases > 308,089 dead > 9,871,663 recovered ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6093 "2020-12-16T13:52:08Z")
States reporting highest-ever COVID case reports yesterday (Dec 16, 2020) (seven-day averaged) Maine Delaware Tennessee West Virginia Only four. That’s encouraging. It does make you lose sight of the fact that these are the highest new case numbers ever for these states. I think that not a week has gone by in which at least one state did not report a new record high. I’ll be happy when this number goes down to zero. That would mean that, although new cases were being reported, they weren’t at record levels. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6094 "2020-12-16T16:06:30Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I heard on the radio today that some people who got the vaccination were getting false positives for HIV. Anybody know anything about this? > **[Australia Scraps Covid-19 Vaccine That Produced H.I.V. False Positives...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/11/world/australia/uq-coronavirus-vaccine-false-positive.html)** > > Of the dozens of coronavirus vaccines being tested worldwide, the one under development at the University of Queensland was the first to be abandoned. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6095 "2020-12-16T18:15:20Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I guess i ain’t getting any of that, either. I’m kinda low in line. The over-18 population of the US is about 209 million. About 20% said they won’t get the vaccine, last I saw, so that leaves about 167 million. I believe I read that Pfizer at least is approved for over 16, but close enough. So, it’s getting pretty close to enough for everyone who will want it. Assuming Astrazeneca’s vaccine is approved soon, I presume we’ll have enough secured and on the way. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6096 "2020-12-16T21:52:50Z")
…there hasn’t been much Covid-19 breaking news from New Zealand lately because literally nothing has happened. We get a few cases at the border every week. But no new outbreaks, no border failures. But we have new news today. The government have secured enough vaccine to not only vaccinate every New Zealander for free, but also (if the governments agree) all of our pacific partners, Tokelau, Niue, Cook Islands (part of the realm of NZ) as well as Samoa, Tonga and Tuvalu. Roll out to begin in the second quarter of 2021. > **[Govt secures another two Covid-19 vaccines, PM says every New Zealander will...](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/433029/govt-secures-another-two-covid-19-vaccines-pm-says-every-new-zealander-will-be-able-to-be-vaccinated)** > > The government has secured another two vaccines, enough for every New Zealander and its Pacific partners, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6097 "2020-12-16T22:03:02Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > But it’s a hell of day for those of us who aren’t big fans of needles. I can’t watch the news or open a website without seeing a person getting jabbed. I didn’t used to dislike needles but every time I get blood drawn and they can’t find a vein the first two times I start to dislike them more and more. I wonder if the vaccines will be easier to find a spot to administer. I don’t mind an initial larger pain and slight soreness afterward, but I don’t look forward to being repeatedly stabbed by someone only trained the month previous. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6098 "2020-12-16T22:18:20Z")
The vaccine doesn’t need a vein, just into the muscle is fine. One stab per shot will be all they need for you. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6099 "2020-12-16T22:20:11Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I wonder if the vaccines will be easier to find a spot to administer. I don’t mind an initial larger pain and slight soreness afterward For intramuscular vaccines the preferred adult sites are the upper outer arm deltoid, the buttocks or the upper leg. Clearly the quickest is the arm deltoid as is doesn’t require disrobing or privacy screening. Vein access, as for lab draws or IVs, is contraindicated, as well as being much harder to do well or fast without lots of training and experience. IMs, if done adequately, should barely be more than a poke. Marginally more twinge than a subcutaneous, but not much. Make an effort to not look at it being done, don’t tense up the muscle, shrug your arm, let it hang loose and dangle it, it will hurt the least that way. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6100 "2020-12-16T22:27:22Z")
> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > Make an effort to not look at it being done… This is me. I have no problem getting shots, I have no problem seeing a needle by itself. But if I see a needle go into my arm, I’m likely waking up on the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6101 "2020-12-16T22:30:42Z")
I’m the opposite way, when I’m getting blood drawn I have to look to reassure myself that they’ve finally found a vein. The actual feel of the needle, though, is pretty unnatural and something I’d like in me as brief as possible. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6102 "2020-12-16T22:31:58Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > This is me. I have no problem getting shots, I have no problem seeing a needle by itself. But if I see a needle go into my arm, I’m likely waking up on the floor. Be sure to let the nurse or medic know that when you sit down. That is usually enough to make sure it won’t happen. Makes it easier on all of us. We respect those who tell us, it is just a fact about you, not a minus value. I’m a nurse who has done thousands of vaccinations and shots yet for dental novacaine I always ask my dentist to be sure I don’t see the needle (even though by definition I am already sitting down). ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6103 "2020-12-16T22:35:29Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > But if I see a needle go into my arm, I’m likely waking up on the floor. AKA **[vasovagal syncope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflex_syncope)**. Not related to **[anaphylaxis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis)** even a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6104 "2020-12-16T23:24:27Z")
[From the AP’s Latest CoronaVirus News article that is just updated continuously:](https://apnews.com/article/international-news-pandemics-south-korea-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-e7d139b2cf4fb933a91caace6cebbb4b) > [@](#): > > Health officials in Alaska reported a health care worker had a severe allergic reaction to a COVID-19 vaccine within 10 minutes of receiving a shot. > > U.S. health authorities warned doctors to be on the lookout for rare allergic reactions when they rolled out the first vaccine, made by Pfizer and Germany’s BioNTech. Britain had reported a few similar allergic reactions a week earlier. > > The Juneau health worker began feeling flushed and short of breath on Tuesday, says Dr. Lindy Jones, the emergency room medical director at Bartlett Regional Hospital. She was treated with epinephrine and other medicines for what officials ultimately determined was anaphylaxis, a severe allergic reaction. She was kept overnight but has recovered. > > Unlike the British cases, the Alaska woman has no history of allergic reactions. …and… > [@](#): > > U.S. health officials have given the OK to another rapid coronavirus test that people can use at home with results in 20 minutes. Abbott Laboratories says the FDA authorized home use of the $25 test sold through an app. It plans to ship 30 million tests in the U.S. over the first three months of 2021. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6105 "2020-12-17T00:07:39Z")
> **[FDA says Pfizer vaccine vials hold extra doses, expanding supply](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/pfizer-vaccine-extra-doses-447117)** > > Using every drop from overfilled vials could boost available doses by up to 40 percent. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6106 "2020-12-17T00:44:16Z")
Lol, sure. 5 day shelf life, dont jiggle it too much and mix with saline before injection. I’m sure rounding up the half empty vials is gonna really make a difference. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=303) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=305)