# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 309
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6187 "2020-12-21T23:47:52Z")
Of course, the official announcement is Ontario shuts non-essential businesses, except for takeout and curb side pickup, on December 26. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6188 "2020-12-21T23:55:58Z")
Is any form of manufacturing considered inessential? Like, does the box factory shut down? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6189 "2020-12-22T00:08:20Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Bloomberg has a [vaccine tracker](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/). Rad! Thank-you. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > Biden was vaccinated on TV. (Pence was a few days ago.) And I’m guesing That Asshole still hasn’t got his yet - funny if he’ll ultimately bow out to pander to his base. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6190 "2020-12-22T00:23:50Z")
Not defending him but there isn’t a lot of testing on people who’ve had covid getting the vaccine. The professional opinion on that is a little muddled atm. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6191 "2020-12-22T01:01:38Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > And I’m guesing That Asshole still hasn’t got his yet - funny if he’ll ultimately bow out to pander to his base. Mods: Belatedly realising that post may be too political a comment for this thread; acknowledging, then, that I was in error posting that here. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6192 "2020-12-22T01:10:48Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > And I’m guesing That Asshole still hasn’t got his yet - funny if he’ll ultimately bow out to pander to his base. **Moderator Note** Keep political jabs out of this forum. No warning issued, but remember forum rules. Colibri QZ Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6193 "2020-12-22T01:20:33Z")
Already acknowledged. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6194 "2020-12-22T06:04:07Z")
77,718,158 total cases 1,709,011 dead 54,593,404 recovered In the US: 18,473,716 total cases 326,772 dead 10,802,496 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 77,172,237 total cases > 1,699,644 dead > 54,089,577 recovered > > In the US: > > 18,267,579 total cases > 324,869 dead > 10,622,082 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6195 "2020-12-22T08:05:38Z")
[science-advice-crisis\_0.pdf (instituteforgovernment.org.uk)](https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/science-advice-crisis_0.pdf) Report from a UK think-tank on how the UK government has handled the crisis. Something for everybody in the short report: The UK medical advisory system is good, but the government is in trouble for not making political decisions. Particularly interesting because the two countries I hear most about (Australia and the USA) handled the politics and abused the science each in different ways: The USA used a meaningless best case scenario to justify lack of action, Australia used a meaningless worst-case scenario to justify unrelated actions, and the UK used science as an excuse for lack of thought. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6196 "2020-12-22T11:36:40Z")
If indeed Trump had COVID a couple months ago, him getting the vaccine may be medically pointless. The implications of a Presidential vaccination photo-op or lack of such photo-op is for another thread in another category. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6197 "2020-12-22T13:36:44Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > the UK used science as an excuse for lack of thought. Now I’m picturing Boris singing “they BLINDED me! With SCIENCE!” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6198 "2020-12-22T14:25:45Z")
Maybe it’s just that they haven’t updated the site yet, but **NO** states on the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus site’s "Critical Trends’ page show a highest-ever-daily-reported-case load (seven-day averaged) on December 21. May it not be an oversight. And may it continue as long as possible. Remember, what I’ve been listing are not merely the highest daily rates in the country, but the highest daily cases listed _EVER_ for that state. Cases are still being reported (and, as in California, glutting ICUs), so getting that figure down to zero and keeping it there is the first step. The new vaccines ought to be changing that. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6199 "2020-12-22T15:01:14Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Cases are still being reported (and, as in California, glutting ICUs), so getting that figure down to zero and keeping it there is the first step. The new vaccines ought to be changing that… That would be such great news to think that the vaccines are having an effect this early in the cycle. That would be such a hopeful sign. I hope it continues in a good direction. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6200 "2020-12-22T15:26:35Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > That would be such great news to think that the vaccines are having an effect this early in the cycle. That would be such a hopeful sign. I hope it continues in a good direction. Just to be clear – I don’t think the vaccines are having a noticeable effect yet. The downturns we’re seeing in case rates has some other cause, and I fear the cases will jump again in the wake of Christmas. But the vaccines are coming just in time to start damping down new growth. I have no idea how long they’ll take to start bringing the numbers down. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6201 "2020-12-22T15:57:35Z")
This may be humor, but it’s topical humor from today’s homepage: > **[State-By-State Covid-19 Restrictions](https://www.theonion.com/state-by-state-covid-19-restrictions-1845906521)** > > The Onion provides in-depth coverage of how the coronavirus response is being mismanaged, botched, and fucked up at the state-level. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6202 "2020-12-22T17:07:38Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > That would be such great news to think that the vaccines are having an effect this early in the cycle. That would be such a hopeful sign. I hope it continues in a good direction. Vaccines take a few weeks to ramp up the immune system so I think this would be pretty impossible. Plus, very little of the vaccines have gotten out compared to the number of people getting infected. We’re seeing an extended leveling off in San Antonio probably because the Fall surge is slowing down. Just in time for the Christmas! ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6203 "2020-12-22T17:14:16Z")
Ontario has a mixed approach to which industries are considered essential. A few manufacturing industries are. Some are not. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6204 "2020-12-22T20:06:59Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Already acknowledged. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6205 "2020-12-22T22:07:12Z")
COVID has now hit all the continents. 36 people tested positive at a Chilean research base. > **[Covid cases recorded in Antarctica for first time – reports](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/covid-cases-recorded-in-antarctica-for-first-time)** > > Isolated continent reportedly registers first infections after 36 Chileans fall ill at research base ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6206 "2020-12-23T05:10:54Z")
78,366,297 total cases 1,724,039 dead 55,128,559 recovered In the US: 18,684,628 total cases 330,824 dead 10,945,097 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 77,718,158 total cases > 1,709,011 dead > 54,593,404 recovered > > In the US: > > 18,473,716 total cases > 326,772 dead > 10,802,496 recovered [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=308) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=310)