# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 318
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6367 "2020-12-31T20:51:45Z")
Don’t really know the in and outs of that but at least a fair chunk are Canadian as another complication. > [@Colibri](#): > > it would have been prudent to assume several hundred thousand non-residents would be present in Florida this winter. Sure but “several hundred thousand” isn’t going to be a very accurate estimate. I’m not sure I understand who dropped the ball here: Florida reporting their needs or the Feds on the distribution side. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6368 "2020-12-31T20:58:44Z")
> [@FigNorton](#): > > I’m not sure I understand who dropped the ball here: Florida reporting their needs or the Feds on the distribution side At this point, all we have is the allegation by **xanthous’s** sister that the vaccine allocation was based exclusively on resident population, so it’s possible that that particular ball was not dropped. However, this being Florida the default assumption is that is was them.😉 Whatever the case, it illustrates problems with not having any real national coordination regarding the pandemic, and leaving states to their own devices. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6369 "2020-12-31T21:08:57Z")
In the US, 3.13M vaccines have been administered as of 12/31/20. Over 10M in the world have been administered. > [@](#): > > Across the U.S., 0.9% of the population has been vaccinated and 25% of the shots distributed to states have been administered From the [Bloomberg Tracker](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6370 "2020-12-31T22:04:05Z")
I thought [Pox Americana](https://www.amazon.com/Pox-Americana-Smallpox-Epidemic-1775-82/dp/080907821X/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=smallpox&qid=1609452174&s=books&sr=1-2) was fine. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6371 "2021-01-01T00:59:44Z")
The guy who left out the vaccines did it with the intention of spoiling them. He left them out overnight, put them back, then took them out again the next night. He’s a pharmacist, btw. And he’s now in jail. [https://time.com/5925648/wisconsin-employee-fires-spoiling-covid-19-vaccine](https://time.com/5925648/wisconsin-employee-fires-spoiling-covid-19-vaccine) ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6372 "2021-01-01T01:25:03Z")
According to reports, they used the supply to vaccinate 60 people on Saturday believing that the supply had only been out since Friday night (it can sit out for 12 hours and still be effective) and unaware that the pharmacist had previously taken out the vaccines on Christmas Eve. Those vaccinations now have to be presumed worthless. What a fucker. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6373 "2021-01-01T01:27:51Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The first-come, first-serve plan led to huge lines forming overnight Tuesday as people camped out on lawn chairs and waited for hours.” > > As linked above, “First come, first serve. Line up if you want one!” sounds like the plan. Boy, that sure is an improvement over our Canadian health care system. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6374 "2021-01-01T01:31:30Z")
Yup. The most vulnerable people. Camped out together, waiting. 'Murica. Florida 'Murica God Dammit! Which is weird, because to hear their Governor tell it, coronavirus is not a problem in Florida. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6375 "2021-01-01T01:40:27Z")
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt, as Stuart Smalley used to say. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6376 "2021-01-01T02:41:11Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Boy, that sure is an improvement over our Canadian health care system. The [so-far-disastrous U.S. vaccine rollout](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html) is single-payer. I don’t think it is any kind of a fair trial for single payer, but single payer it is, as well as being theoretically universal (even though rollout to all will take years at anything close to this rate). ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6377 "2021-01-01T03:03:06Z")
The way the feds have left distribution and injection to the states really has nothing to do with single payer healthcare. More like hot potato healthcare. Even more like Curly Howard Woo-woo-woo-woo healthcare. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6378 "2021-01-01T03:30:30Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > The [so-far-disastrous U.S. vaccine rollout](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html) is single-payer. …the US doesn’t need single-payer: it needs universal healthcare. Your observation is irrelevant, if you want me to be more specific about why it is irrelevant I’d be happy to tell you in another, more appropriate thread if you care to open one. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6379 "2021-01-01T04:07:07Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > The [so-far-disastrous U.S. vaccine rollout](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/americas-vaccine-rollout-disaster.html) is single-payer. I don’t think it is any kind of a fair trial for single payer, but single payer it is, as well as being theoretically universal (even though rollout to all will take years at anything close to this rate). This is kind of a strange way to describe what’s happening, as though it’s a failure of a system _that we don’t have_. This is crisis that requires a universal response, and we _don’t have_ a universal healthcare infrastructure. That’s why it’s a clusterfuck. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6380 "2021-01-01T05:15:03Z")
83,812,748 total cases 1,825,867 dead 59,325,982 recovered In the US: 20,445,654 total cases 354,215 dead 12,125,806 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 83,066,659 total cases > 1,812,188 dead > 58,868,485 recovered > > In the US: > > 20,216,991 total cases > 350,778 dead > 11,998,794 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6381 "2021-01-01T05:16:25Z")
> [@jacob\_wrestling](#): > > I wonder if this is what happened to the guy in LA who allegedly beat his hospital roommate to death for praying? I dunno. Sounds reasonable to me. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6382 "2021-01-01T06:19:22Z")
Yesterday the senior management at the Royal London Hospital sent an email to its staff saying that > “We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care, because we cannot.” I wonder how long it will be before other hospitals in London and across the UK have to make the same decision. I wonder how long it will be before hospitals here do, also. > **[Covid: London hospital unable to provide 'high standard critical care' | ITV...](https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-31/covid-royal-london-hospital-operating-in-disaster-mode-unable-to-provide-high-standard-critical-care)** > > The Royal London Hospital is operating in "disaster medicine mode" amid rising Covid cases, a leaked email has revealed. | ITV National News ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6383 "2021-01-01T06:25:53Z")
Soon. California is at the brink. I doubt they are alone. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6384 "2021-01-01T06:42:05Z")
Yeah. I’ve heard that multiple hospitals in LA are on divert and that most are having trouble getting O2 and other medical supplies. I think there’s a shortage of ventilators and the trained staff to operate them, too. A couple of days ago, I heard someone report that their aunt had to be LifeFlighted from Alabama to Florida for COVID treatment because there wasn’t a single COVID bed available in Alabama OR in Georgia. (Wish I could find that again.) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6385 "2021-01-01T08:05:16Z")
> [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428): > > Rather than simply continue the other thread until it breaks, I’ve started a new thread for this new year. When I update tonight I’ll use the stats I posted in the old thread but here are the stats as I found them at 12:01am on 1 January 2021: 83,842,646 total cases 1,826,373 dead 59,345,329 recovered In the US: 20,445,654 total cases 354,215 dead 12,125,806 recovered That’s 1 year from the announcement of the discovery of this new virus: from zero to this. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/6386 "2021-01-01T12:50:54Z")
Could be. However psychosis doesn’t typically lead to violence. This sounds more like either a delirium or aggression due to withdrawal or something. That or an adverse reaction to tranquilizers, which can lead to severe agitation. And maybe he was simply at the end of his tether, no madness involved. The cases described in the article are impressive though when it comes to speed of onset and development into fullblown paranoia. Something to keep in mind for the near future. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=317) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=319)