# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/662 "2020-03-12T16:07:46Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> This just came in from our COMSEC office:
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> _A malicious website pretending to be the live map for Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins University is circulating on the internet waiting for unwitting internet users to visit the website (corona-virus-map[dot]com). Visiting the website infects the user with the AZORult trojan, an information stealing program which can exfiltrate a variety of sensitive data. It is likely being spread via infected email attachments, malicious online advertisements, and social engineering. Furthermore, anyone searching the internet for a Coronavirus map could unwittingly navigate to this malicious website._
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> So pay attention to the actual URL before clicking on “informational” links on COVID-19.

So… there’s a virus virus?

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/663 "2020-03-12T16:10:51Z")

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My son is at a college in a small town in Virginia. They announced a couple days back that a student was self-quarantining; late yesterday they announced that the student’s test was “presumptive positive” (no clue what “presumptive” means). They’re cancelling in-person classes through the 18th - I guess they’ll try to do them online as much as possible.

This will be an interesting test of use of technology for that purpose. 10 years back, that kind of teaching was utterly new, but a number of colleges offer at least a few classes in that format, so they’re better able to adapt than they could have 10 years ago.

**Dweezil** hasn’t contacted us to let us know whether he’ll come home in the interim. I have mixed feelings: he’s in an apartment, with his own bedroom, and almost never sees his roommate, so his living situation is relatively low risk - on the other hand, he’d be going to the dining hall for meals (that’s still open) which I would think is a terrible place in terms of spreading the joy.

When he was home last week for spring break, I suggested he keep a couple days’ worth of canned soup at his apartment, and make sure his car’s tank was always at least half full in case he wanted to leave town quickly w/o needing to fill up.

His long-time buddy (known since they were in 2nd grade) is back in town for a couple months; the family relocated to another country right after high school when the father took early retirement for medical reasons. They typically return for a bit about this time of year, and the boys get together as much as possible - unfortunately, with everything going on, I’d have to discourage in-person hanging out due to general social distancing, and also because the father has serious health issues :(.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/664 "2020-03-12T16:11:07Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> I just heard the President’s address. I do not watch TV so I listen on various podcasts. I think you can listen better without the video.  
> My goodness the President sounded bad. Sniffles, many missing articles, a flat delivery. He sounded quite ill.

I thought he even stifled coughs or sneezes a few times. He’s met with at 1 person who has been diagnosed with the virus. I don’t know if he has it but I’m sure he gets tested frequently.

> [@UltraVires](#):
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> I agree that it was a terrible, awful speech on his part. Apart from his terrible delivery, did a speech writer even proofread it?
> 
> He caused a shitshow with the whole “trade and cargo” ban which I guess he really didn’t mean. But why was it in the speech?
> 
> Also he announced the ban on travel from Europe and followed that with “also not the UK.” What did that mean? Also no travel from the UK (as they are not in the EU anymore) or did he mean “not the UK”? Why the “also” in there?
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> I understand now it excludes the UK, but I rewound it three times before I could figure out what in the hell he meant. Why couldn’t a speech writer have made that clear?
> 
> Not one of his best moments, and that is coming from someone who voted for him.

Don’t forget tax breaks for “certain” individuals. Yes, by golly, I feel that the President is all about taking care of the little guy and keeping the economy on solid footing. /sarcasm

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/665 "2020-03-12T16:13:15Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> A friend of mine happily sent his son off to college last September. They’d had a rough couple of years before that, but things turned around and son is getting all A’s so far. Friend sold his home and he and wife bought a small condo.
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> So, son is coming home for spring break and it was just announced that he (all students) should not come back. My friend right now is praying for the virus to take him quickly. 😃

So if one of them murders the other, should we count that as coronavirus death? Seems like there’s some legal precedent that if you’re committing a crime - even one not intended to kill someone - and someone dies inadvertently, you could be charged with some form of murder, right? 😃

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**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/666 "2020-03-12T16:16:33Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> I agree that it was a terrible, awful speech on his part. Apart from his terrible delivery, did a speech writer even proofread it?
> 
> He caused a shitshow with the whole “trade and cargo” ban which I guess he really didn’t mean. But why was it in the speech?

Also he said that copayments would be covered for _treatment_, when apparently he actually meant _testing_. I thought that normally Trump’s speechwriters managed to make him sound saner, but his deflections that it’s all China and Europe’s fault were gratingly whiney. As a Canadian, this is the first time I’ve been worried that the US’s bonkers medical system would negatively affect me. Fingers crossed for the next guy.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/667 "2020-03-12T16:31:21Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> …they announced that the student’s test was “presumptive positive” (no clue what “presumptive” means).

IIRC, a presumptive positive means that the first of two tests came back positive. If the second comes back positive, it is a confirmed infection.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/668 "2020-03-12T16:35:51Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 7-11 owner in New Jersey arrested for selling his home brew hand sanitizer that burned kids.  
> [Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-11/n-j-7-eleven-owner-arrested-over-sanitizer-that-burned-boys)

In case anyone is wondering, there are safe recipes out there for homemade hand sanitizer. (The WHO has guidelines, Popular Science has 2 recipes online.) This was not that.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/669 "2020-03-12T17:06:00Z")

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[Mike Pence was interviewed on CNN this morning by Alisyn Camerota](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y1EKEhZRMo) (13 minute video) and she pressed him with some tough questions which he of course evaded with a lot of Dear Leader-ing.

One of the things she pressed him on was the number of tests for COVID-19 being done in the US and [she posted a stat graphic](https://youtu.be/1y1EKEhZRMo?t=323) of information that I can’t find at the CDC website.

Can anyone locate this information?

In a nutshell, the graphic shows the number of tests for COVID-19 performed by the CDC and by US Public health labs from 5 March to 10 March.

On 3/5 the CDC conducted 54 tests, on 3/6 it conducted 16 tests and has conducted none since then.

On 3/5 the US Public Health Labs conducted 1192 tests. 3/6 was 1155. 3/7 was 947. 3/8 was 741 tests. 3/9 was 396 tests. 3/10 was 8 tests.

How can we know how many people are infected if we aren’t testing, was the underlying question in addition to _why the fuck aren’t we testing more people?_

Pence’s response was that he didn’t believe those numbers. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/670 "2020-03-12T17:07:27Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I thought he even stifled coughs or sneezes a few times. He’s met with at 1 person who has been diagnosed with the virus.

[A Brazilian government official who attended a meeting at Donald Trump’s Florida resort on Saturday and posted a photo of himself standing next to the U.S. president has tested positive for the 2019 novel coronavirus, Brazil’s _O Globo_ newspaper reported [today].](https://www.thedailybeast.com/fabio-wajngarten-brazilian-official-who-met-trump-at-mar-a-lago-reportedly-tests-positive-for-coronavirus)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/671 "2020-03-12T17:08:48Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> _why the fuck aren’t we testing more people?_

Dear Leader hopes ignoring it will make it go away.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/672 "2020-03-12T17:13:07Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [A Brazilian government official who attended a meeting at Donald Trump’s Florida resort on Saturday and posted a photo of himself standing next to the U.S. president has tested positive for the 2019 novel coronavirus, Brazil’s _O Globo_ newspaper reported [today].](https://www.thedailybeast.com/fabio-wajngarten-brazilian-official-who-met-trump-at-mar-a-lago-reportedly-tests-positive-for-coronavirus)

Whoa.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/673 "2020-03-12T17:21:29Z")

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I have a good friend who is part of the production team for the Arizona Democratic Town Hall/Debate this Sunday.

She just texted me that the event was canceled and they are loading out right now.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/674 "2020-03-12T17:24:11Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [A Brazilian government official who attended a meeting at Donald Trump’s Florida resort on Saturday and posted a photo of himself standing next to the U.S. president has tested positive for the 2019 novel coronavirus, Brazil’s _O Globo_ newspaper reported [today].](https://www.thedailybeast.com/fabio-wajngarten-brazilian-official-who-met-trump-at-mar-a-lago-reportedly-tests-positive-for-coronavirus)

It’s really only a matter of time before Trump gets it, if he doesn’t already.

Of course, they’ll never let the public know.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/675 "2020-03-12T17:25:19Z")

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Not canceled. Just canceled from Phoenix. It will be televised from a studio.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/676 "2020-03-12T17:25:33Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> It’s really only a matter of time before Trump gets it, if he doesn’t already.
> 
> Of course, they’ll never let the public know.

I mean, they’d have to mention it if he dies.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/677 "2020-03-12T17:27:36Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> It’s really only a matter of time before Trump gets it, if he doesn’t already.
> 
> Of course, they’ll never let the public know.

'Twill be hard to keep it a secret if he’s on a ventilator for a time.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/678 "2020-03-12T17:28:46Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I have a good friend who is part of the production team for the Arizona Democratic Town Hall/Debate this Sunday.
> 
> She just texted me that the event was canceled and they are loading out right now.

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Not canceled. Just canceled from Phoenix. It will be televised from a studio.

Aye; another friend in the biz just let me know they will hold it in DC.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/679 "2020-03-12T17:31:27Z")

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From _The Washington Post_: [Satellite images show Iran building vast burial trenches for virus victims](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/).

Apparently we are now living in a god-damned zombie apocalypse movie.

I guess I’d better go oil my shotgun.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/680 "2020-03-12T17:34:46Z")

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> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> In case anyone is wondering, there are safe recipes out there for homemade hand sanitizer. (The WHO has guidelines, Popular Science has 2 recipes online.) This was not that.

Was it this one?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/g5XnrK6iSCE/maxresdefault.jpg "Introducing: Boston Hand Sanitizer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XnrK6iSCE)

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/681 "2020-03-12T17:56:15Z")

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The NHL has [put all games on hold.](https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-coronavirus-status/c-316155530)

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