# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [February 11, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758 "2020-02-11T01:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 87
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1723 "2020-03-30T14:59:23Z")
Today’s US State deaths per million. I’ve removed states and countries with fewer than 25 total deaths to keep the statistical comparison more valid, and only included those states ahead of the curve for the US as a whole (currently 8 deaths / million). Italy … 178 Spain … 157 New York … 54.6 Netherlands … 50 Belgium … 44 France … 40 Switzerland … 38 Iran … 33 Louisiana … 32.5 Washington … 26.3 UK … 21 New Jersey … 18.1 Sweden … 14 Portugal … 14 Michigan … 13.2 Denmark … 13 Austria … 12 Connecticut … 9.5 Ireland … 9 Colorado … 8.1 USA … 8 ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1724 "2020-03-30T15:17:30Z")
> [@polar\_bear](#): > > Here you see some big differences based on culture. In the Netherlands there are far more deaths, yet less people on the icu. Last week there was a report that three quarters of the deaths never went to the icu. There also might be differences in how deaths are tracked. Some countries are not classifying any deaths outside a hospital as COVID-caused. Other countries might have numbers of deaths closer to the Netherlands, but they just aren’t counting them. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1725 "2020-03-30T15:48:10Z")
[Choir practice turns fatal. Airborne coronavirus strongly suspected](https://www.yahoo.com/news/choir-decided-ahead-rehearsal-now-023414705.html) 60 singers showed up for choir practice. Three weeks later, 45 of them have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or its symptoms, at least three have been hospitalised, and two are dead. This is about 50 miles south of where we live. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1726 "2020-03-30T15:51:05Z")
Canada reports a bad nursing home outbreak in Muskoka, Ontario with 9 deaths and 30 infected staff, with more deaths likely. Terrible news. Canada obviously has a more disperse population than New York. Any city has lots of travellers, lots of people with chronic disease, lots of people flouting or unaware of advice, high demand for services and equipment, people living in high density areas forced to share elevators, etc. Lots of cities have similar risks. I was saddened to see how many NYPD paramedics and police were affected. It is tragic people on front lines anywhere lack access to the full array of protective equipment and if any lesson is learned, I hope this one is near the top. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1727 "2020-03-30T16:14:28Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > At this point I just feel like everywhere else is just some days away from where NY is at right now. They just had a head start. But places that got it earlier, or at the same time, got fewer deaths, and some places are seeing cases level off and would appear to be highly unlikely to reach this level of fatalities. California got hit just as early but isn’t nearly this bad. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1728 "2020-03-30T16:16:18Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Canada reports a bad nursing home outbreak in Muskoka, Ontario with 9 deaths and 30 infected staff, with more deaths likely. > > Terrible news. Canada obviously has a more disperse population than New York. But even if one compares New York to similarly populated places, like Southern Ontario, or the Montreal area, it’s not even _remotely_ comparable. New York is far, far worse than any similar U.S. state, even the densely populated ones. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1729 "2020-03-30T17:02:29Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Choir practice turns fatal. Airborne coronavirus strongly suspected](https://www.yahoo.com/news/choir-decided-ahead-rehearsal-now-023414705.html) > > 60 singers showed up for choir practice. Three weeks later, 45 of them have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or its symptoms, at least three have been hospitalised, and two are dead. > > This is about 50 miles south of where we live. That is so sad. I belong to two choirs. Let’s face it, when you’re singing in a group like that, you’re basically spitting on each other. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1730 "2020-03-30T17:40:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Let’s face it, when you’re singing in a group like that, you’re basically spitting on each other. Or as it said, ‘One could imagine that really trying to project your voice would also project more droplets and aerosols.’ ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1731 "2020-03-30T17:44:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I belong to two choirs. Let’s face it, when you’re singing in a group like that, you’re basically spitting on each other. I’m suddenly glad that my singing voice (if one dares call it that) has always been an immediate disqualifier for being a member of a choir. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1732 "2020-03-30T17:46:39Z")
I’m glad my chorus leader had the foresight to immediatly cancel, on the same day The District closed schools and restaurants. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1733 "2020-03-30T18:12:05Z")
> [@Eva\_Luna](#): > > Definitely in the U.S. too. I am on a bunch of cooking Facebook pages, and everyone is looking for yeast. I feel like all week I’ve been constantly reposting [instructions on how to make your own sourdough starter without yeast.](https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/sourdough-starter-recipe) (And have given away 3 jars of my own sourdough starter.) People also reporting lots of shortages of bread, flour, and other baking supplies. Just in time for Passover! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1734 "2020-03-30T18:36:31Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Just in time for Passover! Reminds me of the tweet my wife saw the other day: “Was not expecting to have to give up quite this much for Lent” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1735 "2020-03-30T19:57:12Z")
Tampa mega-church pastor arrested for holding packed church services despite stay at home order. > **[Tampa megachurch pastor arrested after leading packed services despite...](https://www.fox13news.com/news/tampa-megachurch-pastor-arrested-after-leading-packed-services-despite-safer-at-home-orders)** > > The pastor of a Tampa megachurch is facing charges after refusing to close its doors despite a "safer at home" order in effect in Hillsborough County, meant to stop the spread of COVID-19. The sheriff says up to 500 people were in... ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1736 "2020-03-30T20:23:59Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > That means that 1/5, or 20% of all cases in the world are in the US. Wow, we’re doing a bad job. These numbers are pretty useless unless we can know with certainty that nations like Russia, Iran and China are actually telling the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1737 "2020-03-30T20:38:02Z")
A survey was done of 1200 or so Canadians who recently returned home. About 75% are not self isolating - with 61% going to grocery stores and 30% holding social gatherings. That’s not that surprising, and I’m not sure how much that matters. But it could matter an awful lot. Canada has at least ten deaths today, and while in comparison this might not seem large, it shows there is a long way to go and it is anticipated the next week will be bad. On the whole, social distancing works. But it’s not that easy to do. It is remarkable how important food, exercise and entertainment become. And maybe pro sports should be an essential service. Maybe the Warriors will be back at full-strength by the time the season restarts? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1738 "2020-03-30T20:54:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Tampa mega-church pastor arrested for holding packed church services despite stay at home order. > [Tampa megachurch pastor arrested after leading packed services despite 'safer-at-home' orders](https://www.fox13news.com/news/tampa-megachurch-pastor-arrested-after-leading-packed-services-despite-safer-at-home-orders) Forget respirators and ventilators and face-masks. This guy has the cure for the pandemic, if only every hospital, school, and church could get a few! > [@](#): > > On Sunday, Howard-Browne defended his decision to keep the church open in a video posted to his YouTube channel, claiming the building had the technology to eradicate any virus. > > “We brought in 13 machines that basically kill every virus in the place,” Howard-Browne said. “If they sneeze it shoots it down like at 100 miles per hour and it will neutralize it in a split second.” ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1739 "2020-03-30T20:55:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder Bo](#): > > I agree completely; it was a big part of my motivation for starting this thread. The thread is a fine thing, and the information on “breaking news” from those on the ground in different regions valuable for all of us in real time … but do you really think future historians will be looking HERE for documentation of the facts? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1740 "2020-03-30T21:01:40Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > The thread is a fine thing, and the information on “breaking news” from those on the ground in different regions valuable for all of us in real time … but do you really think future historians will be looking HERE for documentation of the facts? Really? Quite possibly. Digging through old diaries, personal memos, letters buried in trunks in people’s attics, is part of the “original source material” research that historians do. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1741 "2020-03-30T21:03:24Z")
[Moscow goes into lockdown; other regions follow](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/index.php). > [@](#): > > The Russian capital, Moscow, on Monday woke up to a lockdown obliging most of its 13 million residents to stay home, and many other regions of the vast country quickly followed suit to stem the spread of the new coronavirus. > > A stern-looking President Vladimir Putin warned his envoys in Russia’s far-flung regions that they will be personally responsible for the availability of beds, ventilators and other key equipment. > > “We have managed to win time and slow down an explosive spread of the disease in the previous weeks, and we need to use that time reserve to the full,” Putin said. > > Russia so far has been relatively spared by the outbreak, with 1,836 confirmed cases and nine deaths, but the number of people testing positive has risen quickly in recent days and authorities are bracing for the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1742 "2020-03-30T21:06:38Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > Breaking news from Hungary: The bill has now passed on its second reading, with 138 of 199 MPs voting in favour. Prime minister Viktor Orbán is now ruling by decree, and parliament is no longer required to sit. Elections are suspended and anyone deemed by the prime minister to be spreading “false information” is subject to summary arrest and imprisonment. Despite last-minute calls by opposition parties for the dictatorship to at least be limited to 90 days, the law says that Orbán retains his new powers indefinitely (i.e., until he himself deems the emergency to be over). I find this shocking and more than a little creepy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=86) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758.md?page=88)