# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2074 "2021-08-10T06:13:31Z")

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204,158,038 total cases  
4,316,453 dead  
183,352,006 recovered

In the US:

36,780,480 total cases  
633,799 dead  
29,923,320 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 203,001,679 total cases  
> 4,299,920 dead  
> 182,367,225 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 36,543,338 total cases  
> 633,116 dead  
> 29,859,062 recovered

ETA: 😕

I copy/pasted last night; the timestamp even says so.

EATA: Apparently I did the copying and the pasting but not the replacing. Doh! 🤦‍♂️

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2075 "2021-08-10T12:08:18Z")

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Seven-day averages of daily reported new cases from the Johns Hopkins site data –

Florida – A new record high – 33688 – beating the previous day’s

Mississippi – only a hair shy of its record value from January 11 – 2499 vs. 2516

Louisiana – a new record high of 5665

Hawaii – A new record high of 596, more than double any previous day’s record

That’s four states with new record highs. That hasn’t happened in months.

Still going up and getting close to previous record highs:

Oklahoma  
Alabama  
Georgia  
South Carolina  
North Carolina  
Puerto Rico  
Washington state  
Oregon  
Vermont  
Kansas

Lots of other states are still increasing, as well, but not quite as close to their earlier highs. Yet .It’s hard to tell where to draw the line.

The Dakotas and surrounding states are still pretty low and not going up, but we’ll see what happens in the aftermath of the Sturgis rally.

And, on the international scene, the US has far and away the highest number of daily new cases, above our recent competitors like India and Brazil. We hadn’t been the leading country since back in April sometime.

> **[New COVID-19 Cases Worldwide - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases)**
>
> Have countries flattened the curve? Daily confirmed new COVID-19 cases for the most affected countries over time.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2076 "2021-08-10T17:33:36Z")

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With schools about to open, there’s a very real chance that we end up with a series of new mutations of concern. It’s interesting that some of the notable variants of interest/concern started emerging at around the same time - Q4 of 2020. Probably had more to do with the holidays as some variants came from the southern hemisphere. But the more we have large groups of people together, the worse it’ll get.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2077 "2021-08-10T18:46:13Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Florida – A new record high – 33688 – beating the previous day’s

Over _one hundred_ Floridians perish _each day_, but we aren’t even in a state of emergency!

Hurricane Charlie only killed thirty-five people…

~Max

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2078 "2021-08-11T04:03:06Z")

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204,776,810 total cases  
4,326,877 dead  
183,901,366 recovered

In the US:

36,892,215 total cases  
634,662 dead  
29,966,321 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 204,158,038 total cases  
> 4,316,453 dead  
> 183,352,006 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 36,780,480 total cases  
> 633,799 dead  
> 29,923,320 recovered

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2079 "2021-08-11T04:12:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> With schools about to open, there’s a very real chance that we end up with a series of new mutations of concern.

In my district, teachers are required to be vaccinated but students are not. So expect to see a surge this month and next month while politicians scratch their head wondering why.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2080 "2021-08-11T10:33:52Z")

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Students under 12 aren’t even eligible for the vaccine yet, so yeah. But there are places that don’t require and apparently won’t even allow enforcement of masking, so there’s that.

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**Author:** ![by-tor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/by-tor/32/266_2.png) [@by-tor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/by-tor)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2081 "2021-08-11T21:58:06Z")

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Oregon has reinstated the statewide, indoor, face mask mandate.

> **[All Oregonians 5 and older required to wear face masks in indoor public places](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oregon-governor-brown-mask-mandate/283-7f7ae484-8b94-4647-8ffd-bf2f0ee14db7)**
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> The statewide face mask mandate applies to everyone, regardless of vaccination status, and is part of the state's effort to slow the spread of the delta variant.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2082 "2021-08-11T22:01:12Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Students under 12 aren’t even eligible for the vaccine yet, so yeah.

But those over 13 i.e. high-schoolers can. But nope, not required.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2083 "2021-08-11T22:03:24Z")

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Agreed - absolutely should be required unless there’s a medical reason not to do it.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2084 "2021-08-11T22:20:30Z")

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With several hundred new cases a day for a while now, Hawaii just reimplemented 50% capacity for bars and restaurants.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2085 "2021-08-12T06:50:15Z")

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205,542,853 total cases  
4,337,580 dead  
184,545,357 recovered

In the US:

37,060,454 total cases  
635,219 dead  
30,050,064 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 204,776,810 total cases  
> 4,326,877 dead  
> 183,901,366 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 36,892,215 total cases  
> 634,662 dead  
> 29,966,321 recovered

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2086 "2021-08-12T14:24:03Z")

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I don’t know where to post this, so hopefully this is an OK spot.

I live on the ID/WA border. There has been a huge difference between the two sides with regards to mask usage. WA universities have not yet mandated mask wearing indoors for all. So I was extremely shocked to see that all ID universities are requiring them as of today:

> **[All Idaho public universities to reinstate face mask requirement, regardless...](https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/boise-state-all-idaho-public-universities-reinstate-face-mask-requirement-regardless-vaccination-status/277-98781b13-fc21-463f-8e1b-dcbe9c251163)**
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> Boise State University confirmed to KTVB that the face mask requirement would include fans at Albertsons Stadium attending Bronco football games.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2087 "2021-08-12T15:23:32Z")

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Watching the press conference now so no written story to link yet, but Chicago Public Health Dep’t is saying that Lollapalooza (began 14 days ago) was not a super-spreader or surge event. Commissioner gave very detailed numbers on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated attendees with Covid.

Express caveats from the commissioner’s mouth: (1) Lolla was an outdoor event with about 90% of attendees vaccinated, and (2) Chicago is not undergoing a Covid spike as in New Orleans, where cancelling Jazz Fest made sense.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2088 "2021-08-12T15:49:25Z")

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New daily record highs in reported cases (seven day average)

Mississippi (3391)

Louisiana (7010)

Oregon (1874)

I suspect Florida, as well, but they’re not reporting daily cases.

Many others states are still rising rapidly, and might register new highs in the next few days (Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, etc.)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2089 "2021-08-12T15:52:28Z")

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[Texas Hospitals Are Already Overloaded. Doctors Are ‘Frightened by What Is Coming.’ (yahoo.com)](https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-hospitals-already-overloaded-doctors-121726648.html)

> [T]he vast majority of patients hospitalized in Texas are not vaccinated…
> 
> To help manage the surge, Abbott appealed this week to health care workers outside the state to travel to Texas and help the overloaded hospitals.

Here’s an idea: Let unvaccinated health care workers (nurses, etc.) who refuse to take the vaccine care for the unvaccinated patients who refused to take the vaccine.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2090 "2021-08-12T16:45:59Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Here’s an idea: Let unvaccinated health care workers (nurses, etc.) who refuse to take the vaccine care for the unvaccinated patients who refused to take the vaccine.

What’s not to like about this idea?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2091 "2021-08-12T18:08:29Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Here’s an idea: Let unvaccinated health care workers (nurses, etc.) who refuse to take the vaccine care for the unvaccinated patients who refused to take the vaccine.-

I’m ThelmaLou and I approve of this idea. And let’s send **all** the unvaccinated to their own facility. Maybe that jail that Greg emptied out. There’s probably still plenty of room in it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2092 "2021-08-12T19:13:48Z")

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To follow up on my own post, now there’s a [Tribune article](https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-lollapalooza-outbreak-20210812-6yb4omy4ajfj3evxu4gbxmhmim-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861628793824#nws=true) on the Lollapalooza thing.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2093 "2021-08-12T19:55:56Z")

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As I’m not interested in becoming a subscriber, even for a low, low price, could you summarize?

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