# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 106
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2134 "2021-08-15T01:10:12Z")
A judge has ordered a guy to get vaccinated or he won’t get probation. He says he won’t do it. > **[Hamilton County judge orders man to get COVID-19 shot as condition of probation](https://www.journal-news.com/news/hamilton-county-judge-orders-man-to-get-covid-19-shot-as-condition-of-probation/2HME7FQFNFBMHKAMIADODK3WG4/)** > > CINCINNATI — Brandon Rutherford wore a face mask Wednesday as he stood in front of a Hamilton County judge to be sentenced for his recent drug conviction. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2135 "2021-08-15T01:13:48Z")
Another ominous development is that the UK, which had experienced a sudden decline in COVID cases after its Delta wave, has now started to swing upward again, most likely a direct result of their policy of reopening. It’s beginning to look like Boris Johnson didn’t win the reopening bet after all. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2136 "2021-08-15T03:12:00Z")
So now both AEG and Live Nation will require vaccination to attend one of their shows. Those are two of the biggest, maybe THE two biggest, concert promoters in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2137 "2021-08-15T05:01:06Z")
207,535,317 total cases 4,367,259 dead 186,032,184 recovered In the US: 37,435,835 total cases 637,439 dead 30,144,609 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 206,974,880 total cases > 4,358,471 dead > 185,599,212 recovered > > In the US: > > 37,364,700 total cases > 637,161 dead > 30,130,092 recovered ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2139 "2021-08-15T18:53:31Z")
> **[States, Counties Begin 3rd Dose of COVID Vaccine for Vulnerable People](https://www.newsweek.com/states-counties-begin-3rd-dose-covid-vaccine-vulnerable-people-after-fda-approval-1619453)** > > The third shot is not considered a booster, but rather an additional dose for individuals who did not develop adequate immunity from the first two doses. I plan on going this week for my third. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2140 "2021-08-16T04:05:31Z")
207,993,343 total cases 4,374,916 dead 186,456,626 recovered In the US: 37,466,718 total cases 637,561 dead 30,153,576 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 207,535,317 total cases > 4,367,259 dead > 186,032,184 recovered > > In the US: > > 37,435,835 total cases > 637,439 dead > 30,144,609 recovered ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2141 "2021-08-16T04:23:08Z")
Fingers crossed that this one takes. As I recall, you are a transplantee? I understand the anti-rejection drugs can cause all sorts of issues. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2147 "2021-08-16T05:02:16Z")
oops! ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2148 "2021-08-16T11:54:21Z")
Yep, kidney transplant. Luckily, so far it’s been relatively smooth sailing. I just want to believe I may gain anti-bodies against this stupid virus. My medical provider is not allowing appointments for the third vaccine yet; however, the local grocery store is. My appointment is for Wednesday morning. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2149 "2021-08-16T14:01:11Z")
Best of luck to you, @MissTake. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2150 "2021-08-16T14:16:53Z")
Here’s some news: > **[160 coronavirus cases linked to Watershed Music Festival](https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-music-health-coronavirus-pandemic-music-festivals-2dd6c50d7bcdd178ebf6298951002d72)** > > GEORGE, Wash. (AP) — More than 160 cases of the coronavirus have been confirmed among people who attended the Watershed Music Festival at the Gorge Amphitheatre, the Grant County Health District said Friday. I can already hear people thinking “160 out of 25,000 isn’t too bad…” ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2151 "2021-08-16T18:32:44Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I can already hear people thinking “160 out of 25,000 isn’t too bad…” That’s twice the rate of Lollapalooza so far. Plus, 75% of those infections were unvaccinated people even though the vaccination rate was estimated to be 90%. I suspect that the Watershed Music Festival had a lower vaccination rate. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2152 "2021-08-16T21:49:58Z")
> [@MissTake](#): > > My appointment is for Wednesday morning. Never mind, just got back from getting the booster. The person administrating it said they’ve been busy all day with people like me. Didn’t wait the twenty minutes, though. Started to, then a very chatty unmasked man sat down next to me. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2153 "2021-08-16T21:58:53Z")
From the Irony News Desk: > **[Cardinal Who Expressed Skepticism About Vaccines Has COVID-19, Is On Ventilator](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/raymond-burke-covid-ventilator_n_6119cf30e4b0a2603b7f24bd)** > > Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke has referenced conspiracy theories suggesting coronavirus vaccines are linked to microchips and made from aborted fetal cells. > … > The cardinal has expressed skepticism about the need for social distancing measures and spoke out against mandatory vaccinations in May 2020, [according to the National Catholic Reporter](https://www.ncronline.org/news/coronavirus/cardinal-raymond-burke-vaccine-skeptic-announces-he-has-coronavirus). “It must be clear that vaccination itself cannot be imposed, in a totalitarian manner, on citizens,” [he said at the time](https://www.thedailybeast.com/vaccine-skeptic-cardinal-raymond-l-burke-breathing-via-ventilator-after-testing-positive-for-coronavirus). > > Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, a former archbishop of St. Louis, has been hospitalized with COVID-19 and placed on a ventilator. > > Burke has also referenced conspiracy theories about vaccines: one about microchips and [another that claimed](https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/12/08/no-coronavirus-vaccines-arent-made-aborted-fetuses-or-created-control-population-more-lessons-about-fake-news/) the vaccines were created using aborted fetal cells. > > He [has repeated false claims](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/16/cardinal-raymond-burke-ventilator-covid/) suggesting vaccines may inject microchips that allow recipients to “be controlled by the State regarding health and about other matters which we can only imagine” and also said that “it is never morally justified to develop a vaccine through the use of the cell lines of aborted fetuses.” > … Even if you believe the vaccine is full of microchips made out of aborted babies, I don’t understand the objection to distancing when you’re dealing with a communicable respiratory disease. And more irony: a Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church objects to people being controlled by the state. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2154 "2021-08-17T02:47:10Z")
Breaking news: [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/16/us/vaccination-booster-shots.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/16/us/vaccination-booster-shots.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage) Was not expecting this. > WASHINGTON — The Biden administration has decided that most Americans should get a coronavirus booster shot eight months after they completed their initial vaccination, and could begin offering the extra shots as early as mid-September, according to two administration officials familiar with the discussions. > > Officials are planning to announce the administration’s decision as early as this week. Their goal is to let Americans know now that they will need additional protection against the Delta variant that is causing surging caseloads across the nation. > > The first boosters are likely to go to nursing home residents and [health care workers](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/16/nyregion/new-york-healthcare-workers-vaccine-mandate.html), followed by other older people who were near the front of the line when vaccinations began late last year. Officials envision giving people the same vaccine they originally received. > > Among other worrisome signals, Biden administration officials are particularly concerned about data from Israel suggesting that the Pfizer-BioNTech’s protection against severe disease has fallen significantly for elderly people who were vaccinated in January or February. > … FTR, I’m old and I was vaccinated in February. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2155 "2021-08-17T03:19:42Z")
I’m not as old, was vaccinated a month later and now have Delta. I wonder if I should get a third shot, I don’t want to take more than my share when so many other people still don’t have access to the first shot. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2156 "2021-08-17T03:24:09Z")
Consider how many doses have expired because nobody wanted them. Take the shot. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2157 "2021-08-17T03:31:46Z")
Those doses aren’t going to leave the US. You may as well take it. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2158 "2021-08-17T03:38:07Z")
That’s good, but what I’m really waiting for is approval for younger kids. My son is 11 — his birthday is in December. He went back to in-person school last week. Only 4 days of school so far and already we have two notifications of positive COVID at his school. This will be the longest 4 months of my life. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2159 "2021-08-17T03:53:57Z")
I can’t imagine how stressful this must be for parents. 😟 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=105) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=107)