# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 108
**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2181 "2021-08-17T20:41:17Z")
Found it. All in one place and no searching. > **[Clinical Trial Data | Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine (EUA)](https://eua.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua/providers/clinical-trial-data?)** > > Learn more about clinical trial programs that are currently investigating Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. See EUA Important Safety Information. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2182 "2021-08-17T20:51:29Z")
> [@shh1313](#): > > Found it. All in one place and no searching This is not breaking news but you seem bent on posting wherever you can. This has nothing to do with getting a 3rd jab. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2183 "2021-08-17T21:18:17Z")
> **[Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tests positive for COVID-19](https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/17/texas-governor-greg-abbott-positive-covid/)** > > The governor spoke Monday night at a GOP event in Collin County, later tweeting photos of him addressing a maskless crowd. Less than three hours before his diagnosis was announced Tuesday afternoon, he tweeted pictures of a meeting with guitarist... Ironic timing for him. He’s been battling with cities, counties and school districts who are implementing their own mask mandates in violation of his order that prohibits mask mandates. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2184 "2021-08-17T21:26:07Z")
Whatever I may think of Abbott, I hope he makes a full recovery. I don’t know whether his being paraplegic puts him in a higher risk category. This being the first week of school in much of Texas, I predict this news will make people lose their shit. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2185 "2021-08-17T21:38:21Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > This is what I posted several weeks ago and was told that I was posting anti-vaxx propaganda. Edit: Never mind, this is for breaking news. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2186 "2021-08-17T21:42:10Z")
I didn’t go too far back in the thread, but I thought this was breaking news for we regular folks: > **[More protection: US likely to authorize COVID booster shots](https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-21cd829d358e9b50b16515025dab2008)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — After struggling for months to persuade Americans to get the COVID-19 vaccine, U.S. health officials could soon face a fresh challenge: talking vaccinated people into getting booster shots to gain longer-lasting protection as the... ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2187 "2021-08-17T23:04:34Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > I’m hoping they can do the same with these new mRNA vaccines, to produce quickly a new on-point vax for the new variants. I would think it would be even easier: If I understand aright, these mRNA vaxes are entirely synthetic, built to contain just the right mRNA codes for the spike protein. So is there some obstacle to producing new synthetic molecules for all the new variants as they arise? I believe they can. But I will trust the science. As of today, it may be a better bet to simply boost the immune system. It’s not clear to me that Delta is especially good at vaccine evasion. Certainly other variants have scored higher there. Delta has won out in its ability to infect, apparently through mass volume. So for now, maybe better just to keep the boosters going, and tweaking is secondary? I’m not a scientist on this. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2188 "2021-08-17T23:10:07Z")
> [@AP News as quoted by Aspenglow](#): > > U.S. health officials could soon face a fresh challenge: talking vaccinated people into getting booster shots That will be the easy part. The people who got their first two shots will mostly be glad to queue up for their third. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2189 "2021-08-17T23:27:26Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Will this be a repeat of the same vaccines we already got? Or will they be coming out with a new improved vaccine that specifically addresses the latest variants, Not only the same vaccines, the same vaccine. For regulatory/approval reasons the standard booster is the exact same vaccine as you got the first time. Personally, I’m not happy going down that path. I’d rather have a booster of one of the other vaccines. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2190 "2021-08-17T23:34:51Z")
I was told because my first two jabs were Pfizer, I was told I had to have Pfizer for the booster. I wanted Moderna. It’s been about 27 hours since the booster and I’m feeling a little worse than I did after the second jab - raising my arm causes discomfort, I ran a slight fever last night, and some body aches. Keep in mind, though, I have no idea what my antibody levels are. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2191 "2021-08-17T23:40:11Z")
2 Cases located in an apartment building in Melbourne by _sewerage testing_. [Covid Victoria: 6 new cases, race to find source of Melbourne’s mystery case | Herald Sun](https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/covid-scare-at-newport-apartment-block/news-story/8d56856d22639c58e8d21d667fc93ba0) The idea that somebody is analyzing sewerage at the level of the individual apartment building is mind bleeding. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2192 "2021-08-17T23:44:58Z")
It’s a useful tool in terms of detecting prevalence in the community. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2193 "2021-08-17T23:48:32Z")
And this is the first time I’ve heard of it being used for any other purpose. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2194 "2021-08-17T23:51:14Z")
I’d see that as a good sign; Australia (and local government) is serious about detecting where the transmissions are. Obviously, the vaccination regime is key to getting out of this mess. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2195 "2021-08-18T00:02:16Z")
If you have a vaccination card showing fully vaccinated for at least two weeks, you don’t have to quarantine upon arrival in Hawaii. They’ve started catching tourists bringing in fake cards. A man and his adult son were nabbed at the airport on August 8 with fake cards. They were sent back to California to do their court proceedings by Zoom. This is a serious felony. Two days later, a couple from Florida were caught with fake cards. They also had fake vaccination cards for their two children, ages four and five … much too young to be able even to receive a vaccine! The parents are a pair of Bozos. They were arrested on Oahu’s North Shore and are out on bail. [Story here](https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/08/17/authorities-arrest-florida-couple-accused-using-fake-vaccine-cards-travel-hawaii/). Hawaii’s hospitals and ICUs are filled with Covid patients.[The authorities are mulling a statewide curfew](https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/08/17/statewide-curfew-under-discussion-multiple-hawaii-icus-operate-or-above-capacity/). ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2196 "2021-08-18T00:30:31Z")
…in breaking news from New Zealand: broccoli, not toilet paper, topped supermarket sales as people rushed out to stock up for the lockdown. > **[Broccoli tops supermarket sales, but 'plenty for everybody'](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/449416/broccoli-tops-supermarket-sales-but-plenty-for-everybody)** > > Broccoli and bananas were among the most sought-after items yesterday, but supermarkets are reassuring the public they have plenty of all groceries in stock. I can understand bananas at number two. But broccoli? People rushed out to horde broccoli? (Toilet paper was ranked 12) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2197 "2021-08-18T00:36:23Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > But broccoli? People rushed out to horde broccoli? (Toilet paper was ranked 12) Maybe they’ve discovered broccoli has absorbancy qualities we didn’t know about. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2198 "2021-08-18T00:40:56Z")
> [@MissTake](#): > > I was told because my first two jabs were Pfizer, I was told I had to have Pfizer for the booster. I wanted Moderna. I haven’t been told that (because it’ll be a few months before I’m eligible for the booster), but I too was hoping that I could get Moderna this time instead of Pfizer since Moderna, I believe, has a higher dosage than Pfizer does. Maybe they’ll change their minds by the time I’m allowed to get it. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2199 "2021-08-18T01:20:06Z")
…NZ Live 1PM briefing going on now. > **[Govt reveals new rules for mask use in level four](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/449421/govt-reveals-new-rules-for-mask-use-in-level-four)** > > The government is making it mandatory for people to wear masks while they are visiting essential services, including supermarkets and petrol stations. Watch the latest briefing here. Because we’ve started from zero cases, some here might be interested in following along to see the contact-tracing process in macro detail. We’ve already genomically sequenced the initial case and its linked to the NSW outbreak but they still haven’t found an epidemiological link. It’s like following along on a detective case. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2200 "2021-08-18T02:50:28Z")
Data point I can’t find What percentage of those infected during the delta surge were already vaccinated? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=107) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=109)