# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2322 "2021-08-27T15:35:52Z")

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According to the Miami Herald for August 27, 2021, there were **21,765** new cases and a record 901 deaths in **Florida**.

> **[Florida COVID update: 27,584 new cases, single-day record, 8 deaths added](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253766203.html)**
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> Florida on Friday reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that 27,584 COVID-19 cases were added Thursday, a record, according to Miami Herald calculations of CDC data.

This site gives 21,183 new cases

> **[Florida News That Impacts You – August 27th, 2021 | 1290 WJNO](https://wjno.iheart.com/content/2021-08-27-florida-news-that-impacts-you-august-27th-2021/)**
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> Your daily recap of the some of the biggest news from around the state that impacts you in South Florida. 

These aren’t seven day averages.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2323 "2021-08-27T19:32:47Z")

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Don’t get your hopes up too high just yet. [This is the paper in Nature](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03807-6) that your ref cites.

It’s about the process of designing/identifying monoclonal antibody candidates for investigation. I skimmed the piece and did a quick google. So far as I can tell there has been zero clinical work so far on s2h97.

j

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2324 "2021-08-27T22:08:13Z")

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[Mississippi Has Quarantined 15% of All K-12 Students For COVID Cases or Exposures](https://www.mississippifreepress.org/15173/mississippi-has-quarantined-15-of-all-k-12-students-for-covid-cases-or-exposures/?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20210827&instance_id=39059&nl=coronavirus-briefing&regi_id=125453650&segment_id=67476&te=1&user_id=73981d25df4000087fbe9ff100a60207)

> About 15% of all Mississippi K-12 students have now been quarantined since the start of the year either for testing positive for COVID-19 or due to known exposures. That figure, based on new data from the Mississippi State Department of Health, includes 65,525 students who have been ordered to isolate in the weeks since classes began.
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> The latest report, which includes figures from 835 schools in 75 counties, shows that the state identified 5,763 new cases among students for the week of Aug. 16-20 and ordered 28,990 of them to quarantine for exposure, with both figures up since the prior week.
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> The total number of student cases identified this month so far reached 11,766 by the end of last week. At the same point in August 2020, schools had confirmed just 533 cases among students. For the entirety of the fall 2020 semester, [Mississippi’s schools confirmed just 7,212 cases among students](https://web.archive.org/web/20210704150203/https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/12035.pdf). About [443,000 students](https://newreports.mdek12.org/) are enrolled in Mississippi’s public-school system.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2325 "2021-08-27T22:52:48Z")

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It’s looking dire in Hawaii. Yesterday saw a record one-day total of eight deaths, and today that was broken with nine. Even more ominous, new cases for a single day were recorded at 1035 today, the first time they’ve surpassed 1000. (There was one other day that was slightly higher, but it included cases from previous days that had not been included before due to a reporting glitch. Today’s is a clear 24-hour figure.) It’s sounding like another lockdown is in the cards, as our hospitals are full to capacity.

The vast majority of new cases and hospitalizations are Delta and among the unvaccinated.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2326 "2021-08-28T04:59:22Z")

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216,224,351 total cases  
4,499,191 dead  
193,208,547 recovered

In the US:

39,540,401 total cases  
653,405 dead  
30,786,368 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 215,503,180 total cases  
> 4,489,019 dead  
> 192,690,946 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 39,342,153 total cases  
> 651,956 dead  
> 30,732,120 recovered

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2327 "2021-08-28T05:04:42Z")

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The Honolulu morgue is overflowing. They’re stuffing the extras in a refrigerated mortuary trailer.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2328 "2021-08-28T06:10:37Z")

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The US as a whole is well over 1,000 deaths per day at the moment.

ETA: 1,304 and 1,291 the past two days, for instance.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2329 "2021-08-28T15:04:54Z")

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[https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine)

> People who are infected with the highly contagious Delta variant are twice as likely to be hospitalized as those who are infected with the Alpha variant, according to [a large new British study](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00475-8/fulltext).
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> The study, published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal on Friday, is an analysis of more than 40,000 coronavirus infections in England. It adds to evidence suggesting that Delta may cause more severe illness than other variants do.
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> Fewer than 2 percent of the infections occurred in fully vaccinated people, and there was not enough data to draw firm conclusions about hospitalization risks in that group specifically, the researchers said.
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> “The main takeaway is that if you have an unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated population, then an outbreak of Delta can lead to a higher burden on hospitals, on health care, than an Alpha outbreak would,” said Anne Presanis, a senior statistician at the University of Cambridge and one of the study’s lead authors.  
> …

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2330 "2021-08-28T22:53:28Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> So far as I can tell there has been zero clinical work so far on s2h97.

On a paper that has published almost 45 days ago. I think it’s a bit misleading to point out lack of clinical work on that timescale.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2331 "2021-08-29T02:01:38Z")

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> **[How much impact could Sturgis rally have on COVID caseload?](https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-entertainment-music-health-coronavirus-pandemic-6446e345441fe62c74ec88de5bd9ae3d)**
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> Health officials across five states have linked 178 virus cases to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. In the three weeks since the rally kicked off, coronavirus cases in South Dakota have shot up at a startling pace.

> [@](#):
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> Rumbles from the motorcycles and rock shows of the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally have hardly cleared from the Black Hills of South Dakota, and the reports of COVID-19 infections among rallygoers are already streaming in — 178 cases across five states, according to contact tracers.
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> In the three weeks since [the rally kicked off](https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-health-coronavirus-pandemic-south-dakota-sd-state-wire-b729c1e92cb7e0f74c12343c483f9474), coronavirus cases in South Dakota [have shot up at a startling pace](https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-south-dakota-sd-state-wire-033ae7a5d0953fcf34849ba7873dc417) — sixfold from the early days of August. While it is not clear how much rallygoers spread the virus through secondary infections, state health officials have so far reported 63 cases among South Dakota residents who attended the event.
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> The epicenter of the rally, Meade County, has become red-hot with new cases, reaching a per capita rate that is similar to the hardest-hit Southern states. The county reported the highest rate of cases in the state over the last two weeks, according to Johns Hopkins researchers.
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> The Black Hills region’s largest hospital system, Monument Health, warned Friday that it has seen hospitalizations from the virus rise from five to 78 this month. The hospital was bracing for more COVID-19 patients by converting rooms to intensive care units and reassigning staff.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2332 "2021-08-29T06:37:11Z")

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216,766,774 total cases  
4,508,172 dead  
193,697,396 recovered

In the US:

39,617,417 total cases  
654,381 dead  
30,812,242 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 216,224,351 total cases  
> 4,499,191 dead  
> 193,208,547 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 39,540,401 total cases  
> 653,405 dead  
> 30,786,368 recovered

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2333 "2021-08-29T20:31:07Z")

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My point was that it’s way too early to get excited about s2h97. It’s interesting that these monoclonal antibodies are being developed, but we have to remember that we’re just at the start of a very long road. It’s an attritional process, and the large majority of candidates, even the promising ones, will likely fall by the wayside.

j

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2334 "2021-08-29T22:19:31Z")

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> **[New COVID variant detected in South Africa, most mutated variant so far](https://www.jpost.com/health-science/new-covid-variant-detected-in-south-africa-most-mutated-variant-so-far-678011)**
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> The C.1.2 variant first detected in South Africa is more mutated compared to the original virus than any other known variant.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2335 "2021-08-30T05:40:50Z")

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217,217,358 total cases  
4,515,093 dead  
194,123,341 recovered

In the US:

39,665,515 total cases  
654,689 dead  
30,826,478 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 216,766,774 total cases  
> 4,508,172 dead  
> 193,697,396 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 39,617,417 total cases  
> 654,381 dead  
> 30,812,242 recovered

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2336 "2021-08-30T14:54:03Z")

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For some reason the Johns Hopkins Data Visualizations pages were not operating earlier this morning. They’re up now, with the following results for seven-day averaged new cases:

**Florida** – not surprisingly, a new high of 37,940

**Hawaii** – a new high of 1120

**Alabama** – a record high of 6450

West Virginia – at 1427 cases, rapidly approaching its previous high of 1524 back on January 4

Several states are surprisingly rapidly retreating from very recent record highs or near-record highs, including Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kentucky, and Alaska. I have no idea why this should be.

South Dakota, as a state, doesn’t show the effects of the Sturgis rally, although I understand it’s still evident locally. The rate has even decreased there, although it’s still rising in North Dakota.

The US as a whole seems to be decreasing, as well. Malaysia and the Philippines, though, have hit new record highs.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2337 "2021-08-30T17:51:58Z")

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Based on the first country to be hit by the delta variant (India), it seems to burn itself out in about 8 to 10 weeks. Likely some kind of herd immunity effect. That’s probably why parts of the US and the US as a whole are decreasing.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2338 "2021-08-30T18:30:40Z")

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> **[COVID-19 updates: 345 children currently hospitalized with coronavirus in Texas](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/coronavirus-delta-variant-latest-news/?id=79720727)**
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> The United States is facing a COVID-19 surge this summer as the more contagious delta variant spreads.

> The COVID-19 vaccines’ ability to keep people out of the hospital appears to be dropping slightly, particularly for those 75 and older, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Monday during an advisory panel.

> The CDC has previously estimated that 97% of people in the hospital being treated for COVID-19 are unvaccinated, but that data was collected before the spread of delta, a hyper-transmissible variant that many doctors have warned appears to be making people sicker.
> 
> The latest CDC analysis estimates that the ability of the COVID vaccines to keep a person out of the **hospital is now between 75% to 95%.**

To be clear, this is still a good efficacy rate, but I have been suspicious of the claims of just how good the vaccines were at keeping people out of the hospital since the arrival of Delta. All of the data appear to be showing two things: 1) the vaccines are extremely important in that they are a great first line of defense we didn’t previously have, but at the same time 2) it is a potentially a very costly mistake to assume that the vaccines will keep you from experiencing major illness. We should be adhering to many of the same guidelines we were following since before vaccines were available

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2339 "2021-08-30T18:40:54Z")

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The Delta variant is ravaging the Gulf Coast in much the same way it did India, which is to say that it’s a forest fire that has burnt up about all the wood that it can for now. @dtilque is correct: several countries peaked sharply and then fell just as dramatically.

This is not necessarily good news, though. New variants are beginning to emerge worldwide and they are almost certainly more transmissible. A pattern we’re seeing is that the virus is adapting to those with COVID immunity, whether it’s acquired from previous variants or from the vaccines. This is to be expected, and vaccines will probably enable to return to a semi-normal lifestyle. But as COVID evolves around the virus, it becomes extremely dangerous for vaccine holdouts. It’ll get to the point where death rates for the unvaccinated are alarmingly high.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2340 "2021-08-30T19:01:45Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> It’ll get to the point where death rates for the unvaccinated are alarmingly high.-

No comment. That board rules will let me make in this thread.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2341 "2021-08-30T19:17:08Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> We should be adhering to many of the same guidelines we were following since before vaccines were available

I disagree. Delta is much more contagious and is capable of defeating the vaccines. We need to be MORE diligent, not less.

And we need to shut down the goddamned schools until the idiot parents figure out that their kids can die along with other peoples’ kids.

That or have opt-out schools. The opt-out schools will be staffed by teachers and admin folks who are un-vaccinated and don’t want to mask, the kids won’t need to mask or practice social distancing and the opt-in schools will follow all those pesky guidelines. Everyone will be happy, right?

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