# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2362 "2021-08-31T16:54:28Z")

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There’s a lot of ‘fuck it’ goin around - it’s as contagious as the real pandemic itself. I see this everywhere with people not wearing masks since it’s just a suggestion and not a mandate. I work in a small office and I’ve already heard three people cough, one of whom doesn’t wear a mask. This is the state of things.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2363 "2021-08-31T22:11:19Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I work in a small office and I’ve already heard three people cough, one of whom doesn’t wear a mask.

I hope you stay well.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2364 "2021-08-31T22:45:03Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I work in a small office and I’ve already heard three people cough, one of whom doesn’t wear a mask.

I’ll be going in next week for the first time since May. I’m going to be pissed if I hear that shit.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2365 "2021-08-31T23:36:23Z")

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Thank you.

It gets better. I went to the local 7-eleven, and like nobody’s wearing masks - at all. I’m in an area which had a comparatively good vaccination rate - at least among adults. But a lot of people are not masking now, especially young men (all ethnic backgrounds). It’s the “I’m a tough guy” mentality.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2366 "2021-09-01T00:02:02Z")

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The two times I’ve actually gone into a grocery store rather than doing curbside pickup in the last couple of months, I was one of maybe 5 people wearing a mask. We’re not talking wall to wall people here, but I was definitely in the very small minority.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2367 "2021-09-01T02:52:43Z")

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> **[Snake venom may be tool to fight COVID-19 -study](https://www.yahoo.com/news/snake-venom-may-tool-fight-213806525.html)**
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> This highly venomous snake could hold a key to fighting the virus that causes COVID-19.At least that's the hope of these researchers in Brazil, who say they found that a molecule in the venom of the deadly jararacussu pit viper inhibited coronavirus...

> Guido said the peptide, or chain of amino acids, can be synthesized in the lab, making the capture or raising of the snakes unnecessary…
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> “We are afraid that people will go hunting for the jararacussu all over Brazil, thinking it will save the world or themselves, their family. That’s not the case. Is this an important discovery? Without a doubt it is. But chasing after the animal is not how this pandemic will be resolved.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2368 "2021-09-01T04:02:08Z")

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218,551,423 total cases  
4,533,942 dead  
195,385,487 recovered

In the US:

40,114,099 total cases  
657,910 dead  
31,020,612 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 217,919,804 total cases  
> 4,523,998 dead  
> 194,795,977 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 39,946,708 total cases  
> 656,393 dead  
> 30,944,465 recovered

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2369 "2021-09-01T04:56:08Z")

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Great! Now the anti-vaxxers will stampede to self-treat themselves with highly toxic snake venom. This may actually be successful, in a Darwin Awards sense.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2370 "2021-09-01T05:10:53Z")

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That thought occurred to me too. What’s next, extracts of oleander and jimson weed?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2371 "2021-09-01T05:17:49Z")

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Forsythia, of course.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2372 "2021-09-01T05:18:03Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> That thought occurred to me too. What’s next, extracts of oleander and jimson weed? &nbsp;

Well, we already did oleander extract, about a year ago.

> **[Oleandrin's Being Pushed as an Unproven COVID 'Cure'](https://www.menshealth.com/health/a33623238/oleandrin-extract-covid19-cure/)**
>
> Here's everything you need to know about the substance.

> **[Oleandrin is a deadly plant poison, not a COVID-19 cure](https://theconversation.com/oleandrin-is-a-deadly-plant-poison-not-a-covid-19-cure-144658)**
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> Consuming the plant can be lethal to animals and humans.

> [@](#):
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> A pre-print article – that is, an article not peer-reviewed by other scientists – is now online. It reports how, in a test tube, oleandrin reduces production of the virus responsible for COVID-19. But this does not take into account the well-known cardiac toxicity of the chemical when consumed by an animal or human.
> 
> Particularly worrisome is the idea that consumers may misinterpret any publicity surrounding oleander and try to self-medicate with this highly poisonous plant. I’m also concerned the dietary supplements industry may try to take advantage of the public’s fear of COVID-19 by developing supplements containing oleandrin.

Haven’t heard about the Loco Weed cure yet, but it can’t be far behind.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2373 "2021-09-01T12:43:10Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> What’s next, extracts of oleander and jimson weed?

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Forsythia, of course.

Hemlock!

It grows wild around here. I could make a fortune! Pay in advance, of course.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2374 "2021-09-01T12:46:48Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@elfkin477](#):
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> > What’s next, extracts of oleander and jimson weed?
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> > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > Forsythia, of course.
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> Hemlock!
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> It grows wild around here. I could make a fortune! Pay in advance, of course. -

Don’t delay! Customers are going fast!

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2375 "2021-09-01T12:53:19Z")

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According to today’s Johns Hopkins Coronavirus site, the seven day average daily reeported new cases for Louisiana is zero new cases.

I repeat that:

**Louisiana** has ZERO new daily reported cases (seven day average)

According to my mathematical training, the only way you can do that is to have no reported new cases every day for a week. Which I don’t buy for a minute. Something odd is happening with the reporting out of Louisiana.

The same thing is happening with **Florida**

**South Carolina** , meanwhile, has hit a new high of 5570 cases

**Hawaii** is reporting a new high of 985, which is paradoxically lower than the seven-day average high of 1120 reported two days ago. Averaging must have brought it down.

**West Virginia** and **Tennessee** are very close to new highs, and rising rapidly

If you look at the United States as a whole, the seven day averaged reported new cases has very abruptly nose-dived away from its former trajectory, which looks suspicious. I think there may be some weird change in reporting or data gathering, rather than an actual sudden drop in cases.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2376 "2021-09-01T13:06:16Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> **Louisiana** has ZERO new daily reported cases (seven day average)
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> …_snip_…
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> The same thing is happening with **Florida**

Quitcher bitchin’! You wanted COVID to go away, didn’t you?

Now, if only DeSantis were president, he would make it go away for the whole country. 🤔

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2377 "2021-09-01T13:15:37Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> If you look at the United States as a whole, the seven day averaged reported new cases has very abruptly nose-dived away from its former trajectory, which looks suspicious. I think there may be some weird change in reporting or data gathering, rather than an actual sudden drop in cases.

while I agree that zero cases must be a data error, Delta has soared and crashed in India and to a lesser extent in the UK. It will probably do something like that here, too, except I expect bumps for school opening and for the winter holidays.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2378 "2021-09-01T14:27:35Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> while I agree that zero cases must be a data error, Delta has soared and crashed in India and to a lesser extent in the UK. It will probably do something like that here, too, except I expect bumps for school opening and for the winter holidays.

Yeah, but if you look at the trajectory of daily reported cases in India it has a very smooth form to it. It gradually goes up, then down, in a somewhat Gaussian fashion.

The data from the US goes up in the same way, appears to be poised for a gradual decline in the same way, then abruptly shoots down in a very unconvincing plummet.

> **[New COVID-19 Cases Worldwide - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases)**
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> Have countries flattened the curve? Daily confirmed new COVID-19 cases for the most affected countries over time.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2379 "2021-09-01T14:31:46Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> **Louisiana** has ZERO new daily reported cases (seven day average)
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> According to my mathematical training, the only way you can do that is to have no reported new cases every day for a week. Which I don’t buy for a minute. Something odd is happening with the reporting out of Louisiana.

Bearing in mind that Louisiana was just devastated by Hurricane Ida on Sunday, and much of the state (including the hospitals) has no electricity – it may be a case of nothing being **reported** , not that there are no new cases.

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**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2380 "2021-09-01T14:32:50Z")

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This is a nothing burger. It’s just a temporary data issue. This is extremely common, found pretty much everywhere, and usually corrected in a few days.

> <https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/issues/4566>
>
> Hello all,
> 
> The following states were experiencing technical issues/performing… maintenance and failed to update their dashboards/data sources on August 25:
> 
> Alabama (also stale August 24)
> Arizona
> Tennessee

> <https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/issues/4582>
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> As indicated on the \[Louisiana COVID dashboard\](https://ladhh.maps.arcgis.com/ap…ps/opsdashboard/index.html#/4ecc2bfa2fa54b6eb5c0eccda972d2030), "Due to hurricane Ida, LDH will pause reporting on August 30th." We do not yet have any knowledge of whether reporting will be resumed August 31 and will update this issue when that information is available.
> 
> Update: Louisiana has indicated on their dashboard that reporting will be paused for August 31.

Louisiana is stale due to Hurricane Ida.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2381 "2021-09-01T15:58:31Z")

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[South Korea:](https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-business-health-travel-coronavirus-pandemic-b6067abc09ecb6a33ca5a6c583619134)

> [@](#):
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> South Korea has reported more than 2,000 new coronavirus cases, approaching a daily record set last month just a day after officials cautiously expressed hope that infections may slow.
> 
> The 2,025 cases reported Wednesday marked the 57th consecutive day of at least 1,000 cases, and there are concerns transmissions could worsen as the country approaches its biggest holiday of the year.
> 
> Officials are wrestling with a slow vaccine rollout and an erosion in public vigilance despite the toughest social distancing rules short of a lockdown in Seoul and other large population centers, where private social gatherings of three or more people are banned after 6 p.m.
> 
> There are concerns the virus could spread more quickly during this month’s Chuseok holidays, the Korean version of Thanksgiving where millions of people usually travel across the country to meet relatives.

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