# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 118
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2382 "2021-09-01T15:59:14Z")
Hawaii has been enforcing indoor mask wearing in stores and such pretty well. That’s one good thing. Elective surgeries at many if not most if not all Hawaiian hospitals are being postponed again due mainly to a shortage of medical-grade oxygen. Hotel cancellations are starting to mount now, about a week after the governor urged tourists to stay away, so a lot of the hotel workers who have been rehired are starting to be laid off again. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2383 "2021-09-01T16:13:28Z")
Oh, almost forgot. They popped another tourist with a fake vaccination card. A young lady from Illinois. She misspelled “Moderna” on the card, which was the tip-off. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2384 "2021-09-01T16:37:50Z")
Here’s a link. > **[Fake ‘Maderna’ vaccine card lands Illinois woman in Hawaii jail, police say](https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article253915258.html)** > > Officers arrested the 24-year-old woman as she prepared to return home, police say. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2385 "2021-09-01T17:13:35Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > earing in mind that Louisiana was just devastated by Hurricane Ida on Sunday, and much of the state (including the hospitals) has no electricity – it may be a case of nothing being **reported** , not that there are no new cases. Good point, but that doesn’t explain the fact that there should have been cases reported _before_ the storm hit. You can see that they receive data daily (it’s graphed in a shadowy range behind the weekly average). Florida’s data has been coming in on a weekly basis. But then, they do things like this: > **[Florida changed its COVID-19 data, creating an ‘artificial decline’ in recent...](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html)** > > As the delta variant spreads through Florida, data published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest this could be the most serious and deadly surge in COVID-19 infections since the beginning of the pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2386 "2021-09-01T19:31:21Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > …Delta has soared and crashed in India and to a lesser extent in the UK… For a snapshot of current UK cases and trends, see the Three Months Trends given here. We are distinctly not out of the woods. > **[Covid inquiry: The UK pandemic in numbers](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274)** > > Explore the data on how the coronavirus pandemic unfolded in the UK. j ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2387 "2021-09-01T22:48:32Z")
Well, we already did oleander extract, about a year ago. [https://www.menshealth.com/health/a33623238/oleandrin-extract-covid19-cure/](https://www.menshealth.com/health/a33623238/oleandrin-extract-covid19-cure/) [Oleandrin is a deadly plant poison, not a COVID-19 cure](https://theconversation.com/oleandrin-is-a-deadly-plant-poison-not-a-covid-19-cure-144658) > [@](#): > > A pre-print article – that is, an article not peer-reviewed by other scientists – is now online. It reports how, in a test tube, oleandrin reduces production of the virus responsible for COVID-19. But this does not take into account the well-known cardiac toxicity of the chemical when consumed by an animal or human. > > > Particularly worrisome is the idea that consumers may misinterpret any publicity surrounding oleander and try to self-medicate with this highly poisonous plant. I’m also concerned the dietary supplements industry may try to take advantage of the public’s fear of COVID-19 by developing supplements containing oleandrin. To be fair, it does successfully stop a covid case from _progressing_ if you die of poisoning. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2388 "2021-09-01T23:11:40Z")
Florida has changed the way it reports covid deaths to the CDC, so that it looks like there are fewer deaths due to covid than there really are. They are now reporting deaths on the day of, instead of once the cause has been determined, so that means that the state is only reporting deaths by covid if the cause is known at the time of death instead of once it’s been determined after the fact. > **[FL Altered How It Measured COVID Deaths, Making It Look Like They Were Declining](https://truthout.org/articles/fl-altered-how-it-measured-covid-deaths-making-it-look-like-they-were-declining/)** > > The change resulted in a reported statewide average daily death count of just 46 when it should have been 262. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2389 "2021-09-01T23:15:32Z")
Joe Rogan has reported that he has covid and is taking horse dewormer. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2390 "2021-09-01T23:32:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hemlock! > > It grows wild around here. I could make a fortune! Pay in advance, of course. But is it organic? That’s the real question. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2391 "2021-09-02T02:20:38Z")
I basically like Rogan but can’t stand some of his conspiracy theory dabblings. I hope he gets sick enough to have some respect for science but hope it doesn’t get worse than that. He _did_ to his credit bring on Michael Osterholm as one of his guests, even if that doesn’t outweigh some of the other dumbass shit he’s hosted. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2392 "2021-09-02T02:46:44Z")
What type of podcast does this Rogan guy usually do? I’ve been told he’s really popular but I never heard of him until he told young guys they didn’t need to be vaccinated. Is he a political sort? If so, he better hope God’s bored of smiting political talk show hosts before he’s the 5th in as many weeks to get in the forever box instead of getting vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2393 "2021-09-02T02:59:29Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > What type of podcast does this Rogan guy usually do? I’ve been told he’s really popular but I never heard of him until he told young guys they didn’t need to be vaccinated. He’s an actor and comedian; he played the maintenance guy on _NewsRadio_ back in the '90s. It sounds like his podcast started out as just general “guys talking crap about various topics,” and became more political over time. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2394 "2021-09-02T03:11:24Z")
219,265,651 total cases 4,545,159 dead 196,041,211 recovered In the US: 40,330,712 total cases 659,927 dead 31,137,936 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 218,551,423 total cases > 4,533,942 dead > 195,385,487 recovered > > In the US: > > 40,114,099 total cases > 657,910 dead > 31,020,612 recovered More than 184,000 new cases in the US yesterday; we’re at about the same place as last October/November. ETA: A tad early tonight; tired and gonna try and get an early bedtime. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2395 "2021-09-02T03:50:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > They are now reporting deaths on the day of, instead of once the cause has been determined, so that means that the state is only reporting deaths by covid if the cause is known at the time of death instead of once it’s been determined after the fact. Only one governor I hate more than Abbott. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2396 "2021-09-02T05:06:20Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > ETA: A tad early tonight; tired and gonna try and get an early bedtime. Thank you for doing this for all of us. I hope the smoke clears soon. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2397 "2021-09-02T05:53:41Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > What type of podcast does this Rogan guy usually do? I’ve been told he’s really popular but I never heard of him until he told young guys they didn’t need to be vaccinated. I believe @kenobi_65 when he says he didn’t start out political, but, in rationalist circles, the show is mostly known these days for bringing on hucksters who promote pseudoscicence and conspiracy theories, often ones associated with the alt right. He also likes to bring on members of the “intellectual dark web,” a group of mostly alt-right people who claim that political correctness, idenity politics, and now cancel culture are silencing them because they tell the truth. These are people like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Sam Harris, and such. That might be fine if he actually debated them, but he mostly just lets them spew their misinformation. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2398 "2021-09-02T07:46:00Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > To be fair, it [oleandrin] does successfully stop a covid case from _progressing_ if you die of poisoning Better still, it also stops the spread of covid. It also occurs to me: Maybe internal parasites are covid vectors. Then it would make perfect sense that ivermectin stops it. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2399 "2021-09-02T12:48:50Z")
Time has resumed its shape. It’s as if McCoy had never entered the Guardian of Forever. **Louisiana** ’s plot on the Johns Hopkins site now no longer has an entry of zero on its seven-day average of daily reported COVID cases. Now it registers 3095. The lowest recent showing was 2476. I have no idea how they’re calculating these numbers, but there’s no way a seven day average could have been zero, as it was the other day. **Florida** , for what it’s worth, is still reporting an average of zero, but we already know their reporting is messed up, and apparently updated once a week. New record daily highs are reported in **Tennessee** (9912) **South Carolina** (6592) **Kentucky** (4840) **Georgia** (10840) **Washington** (2049) **Oregon** (2672) I emphasize that these aren’t merely local highs, but the highest levels reported since reporting on this began back at the beginning of 2020. Alaska and DC aren’t yet at record highs, but are close to the previous records and shooting rapidly upwards. Many other states are on an upward trend, if not near previous record highs. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2400 "2021-09-02T13:03:33Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > **Louisiana** ’s plot on the Johns Hopkins site now no longer has an entry of zero on its seven-day average of daily reported COVID cases. Now it registers 3095. The lowest recent showing was 2476. I have no idea how they’re calculating these numbers, but there’s no way a seven day average could have been zero, as it was the other day. It seems likely that was just an artifact of delayed reporting due to the storm. These things happen, and almost all the really weird numbers that are posted turn out to be reporting artifacts. It’s good to notice them, but reporting artifacts are a fact of life in any large data set, and it doesn’t make sense to get too excited about them. (There was probably some reduction in testing due to the storm, too. I’d get out of the path of a hurricane before getting tested for minor symptoms. I bet a lot of people made that choice.) ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2401 "2021-09-02T13:06:37Z")
Good news on the booster front? > **[Israeli coronavirus vaccine booster data gives the U.S. hope](https://www.axios.com/2021/09/02/israeli-coronavirus-vaccine-booster-data-gives-the-us-hope?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)** > > Booster shots could help slow the spread of the virus, preliminary data suggests > **[2021.08.27.21262679v1.full.pdf](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.27.21262679v1.full.pdf)** > > 925.17 KB [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=117) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=119)