# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 124
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2522 "2021-09-12T19:22:06Z")
It’s a good discussion, folks, but please remember this is a Breaking News thread. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2524 "2021-09-12T19:23:20Z")
Sorry. I’ll move my post ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2525 "2021-09-12T19:24:03Z")
No worries. It’s easy to get distracted in these threads, and I appreciate that a lot. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2526 "2021-09-12T19:24:22Z")
Apologies, I actually didn’t notice the thread I was in, but that’s not a sufficient excuse. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2527 "2021-09-12T19:25:12Z")
Apologies. Some of the same discussion was happening in the coronavirus general discussion and chit chat thread. I lost track of which one i was in. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2528 "2021-09-12T19:25:27Z")
I do hope you carry on the discussion. Just in a new or different thread, to respect those who want to keep this to Breaking News only. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2529 "2021-09-12T19:26:52Z")
I’m one of the people that gets annoyed when this thread gets sidetracked and I continued a sidetrack myself. 🤐 ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2530 "2021-09-12T19:30:31Z")
@puzzlegal and I are discussing the title for a new thread particularly for this discussion. I’ll move your posts over to it as soon as we decide. As I said, I think it’s a great and important discussion – just not for this thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2531 "2021-09-12T19:55:55Z")
New thread created here: > [@Covid booster shots, news and opinion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-booster-shots-news-and-opinion/950565): > > Thus thread was started after a longish digression in the “breaking news thread”. @Aspenglow and I felt it was worth its own topic, and decided to move a bunch of the posts here. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2532 "2021-09-12T20:10:34Z")
Largest single-day death toll to date in Hawaii yesterday, with 12 reported. Tomorrow, many restaurants and other business will start that program mentioned before, where for two months they will have to check your vaccination status before allowing entry. Thailand has finally dropped back below 200 deaths a day, with “only” 180 reported yesterday. They plan to lift a lot of restrictions at the end of the month, but I think you still will have to quarantine for a couple weeks on arrival regardless of vaccination status. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2533 "2021-09-13T04:35:14Z")
[West Virginia:](https://apnews.com/article/business-health-japan-coronavirus-pandemic-4088feb12ed7858e67da5f3693739cf6) > [@](#): > > West Virginia set two daily records in the past week for positive coronavirus cases as the pandemic continues to ravage the state. > > Thursday’s total of confirmed cases was a record 1,738, only to be broken by Saturday’s total of 1,821, according to state health data. The previous one-day high of more than 1,700 was set on Dec. 31. > > The statewide total of 7,849 positive cases for the six days ending Saturday has already passed the seven-day total for the previous week, which had been the second-highest during the pandemic. Sunday’s figures will be released on Monday. > > The highest for one week was nearly 8,200 cases in early January, a time when virus vaccines were being offered only for people ages 65 and older. > > The amount of weekly virus deaths statewide has gone up steadily since early August, when six deaths were reported for the week of Aug. 9. There have been 83 deaths in the past week and 3,207 overall. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2534 "2021-09-13T04:36:58Z")
225,479,436 total cases 4,644,176 dead 202,068,229 recovered In the US: 41,853,362 total cases 677,988 dead 31,871,868 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 225,119,797 total cases > 4,638,720 dead > 201,664,360 recovered > > In the US: > > 41,816,668 total cases > 677,737 dead > 31,857,877 recovered ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2535 "2021-09-13T14:21:05Z")
Idaho has run out of hospital space. The state has abysmal vaccination rates and yet has elected to do nothing to try to slow the pandemic: No mask mandates. No forcing of state employees to get vaccinated. Around where I live, I get glares while wearing my mask, and I’m one of the few wearing one (we don’t go to stores unless we have to and as early as possible). Neighboring WA has done far more to try to slow this thing down and luckily still has hospital space. Now ID is trying to use up that space (along with TX and MS). > **[‘Their Crisis’ Is ‘Our Problem’: Washington Grapples With Idaho Covid Cases...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/13/us/coronavirus-hospitals-washington-idaho.html)** > > Hospitals in Washington State, already strained, are taking on an influx of Covid patients from Idaho, where the governor has refused to require masks or vaccinations. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2536 "2021-09-13T14:24:12Z")
Does triage ever kick in for out of state patients? Do states have a “duty” to serve their own constituents first? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2537 "2021-09-13T14:25:53Z")
I don’t see how this doesn’t allow the feds to mandate vaccinations via the Commerce Clause. ETA: Ooops, I’ll drop this here as too political and perhaps take up the discussion elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2538 "2021-09-13T14:40:54Z")
They talk a bit about this: “Hospitals are generally obligated under federal law to accept transfer requests when there is space to care for them. For cases in closer proximity, officials said, patients may drive themselves across state lines to hospitals where they believe they can get more immediate care, and hospitals must care for those who show up at their door. For patients without insurance, the hospitals may end providing the care for free.” And I put down the wrong state in my first post on this. It is Missouri (MO), not Mississippi attempting to send folks to WA. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2539 "2021-09-13T15:02:01Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Does triage ever kick in for out of state patients? Do states have a “duty” to serve their own constituents first? Even if they did, most hospitals aren’t owned by the states. And the state policy is unlikely to be the fault of the random sick person who shows up at in the emergency room in some other state. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2540 "2021-09-13T15:07:20Z")
On the Johns Hopkins site, we have new record (seven day averaged) Daily COVIOD cases in: **Florida** – (25,062) **West Virginia** – (2157) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2541 "2021-09-13T16:46:08Z")
An NPR article on the north Idaho region: > **[Idaho's Hospitals Are Overwhelmed, But Many Locals Remain Skeptical Of Vaccines](https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/1035986659/idahos-hospitals-are-overwhelmed-but-many-locals-remain-skeptical-of-vaccines)** > > At least 10 hospitals in the state started rationing care for everyone because they're filled with COVID-19 patients. But there's deep distrust of authority. A whole lot of derpin’ goin on! I shouldn’t read FB comments on the local news reporting on this, but I can’t stop myself. What you find in this article are similar to the comments you see: - The vax killed my brother’s best friend’s hairdresser! - You just need to treat people that test positive really quickly with the alternative medicines and they turn out fine! - You need to take more vitamin D and zinc to build your immune system! - You can’t tell me what to do with my body (unless it has to do with a pregnancy)! ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2542 "2021-09-13T17:12:00Z")
Related: > **[‘Their Crisis’ Is ‘Our Problem’: Washington Grapples With Idaho Covid Cases...](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/idahos-covid-crisis-is-straining-hospitals-across-the-border-in-washington/)** > > Hospitals in Washington State, already strained, are taking on an influx of Covid patients from Idaho, where the governor has refused to require masks or vaccinations. > SPOKANE — Surgeries to remove brain tumors have been postponed. Patients are backed up in the emergency room. Nurses are working brutal shifts. But at Providence Sacred Heart Medical Center in Spokane, Washington, the calls keep coming: Can Idaho send another patient across the border? > > Washington state is reeling under its own surge of coronavirus cases. But in neighboring Idaho, 20 miles down Interstate 90 from Spokane, unchecked virus transmission has already pushed hospitals beyond their breaking point. > > “As they’ve seen increasing COVID volumes, we’ve seen increasing calls for help from all over northern Idaho,” said Dr. Daniel Getz, chief medical officer for Providence Sacred Heart. As he spoke, a medical helicopter descended with a new delivery. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=123) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=125)