# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 125
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2543 "2021-09-14T15:27:28Z")
> **[Sit Down For This One: Three Illinois Maps- A Covid, 2020 Election, And Vote...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/14/2052117/-Sit-Down-For-This-One-Three-Illinois-Maps-A-Covid-2020-Election-And-Vote-Trend-Say-It-All?utm_campaign=trending)** > > We have seen these kinds of maps before.� Be it with the vaccine, or masks, or positivity rates, we find correlation between voting percentages and Covid related statistics.� But this one-this is ... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2544 "2021-09-15T02:55:33Z")
226,660,838 total cases 4,662,869 dead 203,340,043 recovered In the US: 42,288,205 total cases 682,341 dead 32,176,784 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 225,479,436 total cases > 4,644,176 dead > 202,068,229 recovered > > In the US: > > 41,853,362 total cases > 677,988 dead > 31,871,868 recovered Folks, I am on the road and not in my right time zone so my daily numbers posts will be a bit non-standard for a couple more days (aside from missing yesterday entirely they will prolly just be slightly early, is all). ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2545 "2021-09-15T03:41:11Z")
Hope you are getting to be somewhere fun🥳 ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2546 "2021-09-15T14:51:03Z")
no worries, snowboarder bo. you have been amazing keeping this going through this more than a year covid year. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2547 "2021-09-15T17:05:10Z")
> [@](#): > > # At Least 1 In 500 Americans Has Died Of COVID-19 > > On March 29, 2020, Dr. Anthony Fauci [went on CNN](https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1244275909944885248) and told viewers that the coronavirus pandemic could cause between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths in the United States. He admitted that he did not like to make a prediction about “such a moving target,” given that “you could so easily be wrong.” > > And this prediction was indeed wrong. > > At least 664,000 people across the country have died of COVID-19 since the crisis began around 20 months ago, according to data [from Johns Hopkins University](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/) reported Wednesday. > > That means at least 1 in 500 people in the U.S. have died of the coronavirus, as CNN first [pointed out](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2021-09-15T08%3A41%3A04&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link). Around 0.2% of our neighbors, friends and loved ones are gone. > > Furthermore, the true death toll is likely higher due to a lack of testing early on in the pandemic and differences in how deaths are reported between states. After the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed case data from February 2020 to May 2021, it estimated that the true number of U.S. COVID-19 deaths was actually 767,000 over that time period. The total would be even higher now. > **[At Least 1 In 500 Americans Have Died Of COVID-19](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/1-in-500-americans-has-died-of-covid-19_n_6141f6bee4b0dda4cbd6df36)** > > The virus's toll has been much worse than experts initially predicted. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2548 "2021-09-15T17:50:27Z")
I heard that on the radio just now. Not 1 in 500 infected, 1 in 500 killed. The host wondered what the American response would be if a foreign adversary killed 1 in 500 Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2549 "2021-09-15T18:18:24Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The host wondered what the American response would be if a foreign adversary killed 1 in 500 Americans. Well, we wouldn’t be decimated… Quincentimated I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2550 "2021-09-15T23:46:55Z")
[Nevada:](https://apnews.com/article/europe-health-asia-coronavirus-pandemic-united-nations-cede164851d7ab6cb5d79c88ff990cf9) > [@](#): > > The Nevada Hospital Association is urging people to avoid going to emergency rooms except in true emergencies, especially in northern Nevada where a resurgence in coronavirus infections is running double the rate in the Las Vegas area. > > Health officials say the 30-day average for daily new coronavirus cases per 100,000 residents has increased fivefold in the Reno-Sparks area over the past six weeks — from 354 at the beginning of August to 1,621 now. The statewide rate is 951, and it’s 720 in Clark County, which includes Las Vegas. > > The head of the hospital association says that as a result, “many hospital emergency departments in northern Nevada are at capacity with patients.” > > State officials said Wednesday that 1,090 people were hospitalized at the beginning of the week for confirmed or suspected cases of COVID-19, the disease that can be caused by the coronavirus. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2551 "2021-09-15T23:49:48Z")
[Arizona:](https://apnews.com/article/health-arizona-coronavirus-pandemic-executive-branch-0cfa08919a64edd38a8c642965b85c3f) > [@](#): > > The Navajo Nation on Wednesday reported 45 more COVID-19 cases and five additional deaths. > > The latest numbers pushed the tribe’s totals to 33,338 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 1,426 known deaths from the virus since the pandemic began more than a year ago. > > Navajo officials are urging people to get vaccinated, wear masks while in public and minimize their travel. > > Officials said all Navajo Nation executive branch employees will need to be fully vaccinated against the virus by the end of September or submit to regular testing. > > The new rules apply to full, part-time and temporary employees, including those working for tribal enterprises like utilities, shopping centers and casinos. > > Any worker who does not show proof of vaccination by Sept. 29 must be tested every two weeks or face discipline. It sure doesn’t seem to be priority for the Navajo Nation. What the fuck? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2552 "2021-09-16T13:11:55Z")
[Pennsylvania:](https://apnews.com/article/business-health-pennsylvania-coronavirus-pandemic-5f24d4a97db72824c30f29b6f4e8519d) > [@](#): > > Pennsylvania residents who are unvaccinated against the coronavirus were far more likely to contract COVID-19, become hospitalized and die than those who got the shot, health officials said Tuesday in the [first public release of data](https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Post-Vaccination-Data.aspx) on so-called “breakthrough” infections in the state. > > More than 35,000 people who were fully vaccinated have tested positive for the virus since January, representing only 6% of all cases statewide, according to the data released Tuesday. More than 1,800 vaccinated people were hospitalized and 213 died — both representing a tiny fraction of all COVID-19-related hospitalizations and deaths since the beginning of the year, the data show. > > Unvaccinated people and those who have yet to be fully vaccinated had seven times the risk of contracting the virus and nearly eight times the risk of death as those offered full protection by a vaccine, according to the data. > > The relative scarcity of milder breakthrough cases among residents who got the vaccine shows the shots are working, state health officials said. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2553 "2021-09-16T15:01:36Z")
Does this happen in red states more than blue states? > **[All Anchorage ICU beds full as Alaska COVID hospitalizations keep rising](https://www.ktoo.org/2021/09/14/all-anchorage-icu-beds-full-as-alaska-covid-hospitalizations-keep-rising/)** > > Meanwhile, the percent of COVID-19 tests coming back positive in Alaska keeps rising, too. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2554 "2021-09-16T15:13:05Z")
There’s factors that corrolate with redness / blueness that might not be directly politics-related: population density / geographical area served by hospitals. I imagine that a bright blue Alaska would still be more vulnerable to stress in its hospital system. Not to disregard mitigation behaviour or lack thereof and the political subcultures that push that, though. Difficult to separate where culture comes from politics vs correlates with it for underlying reasons such as rural individualism. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2555 "2021-09-16T15:44:56Z")
I worked it out months ago that we were getting close to that point, and I’ve been telling people that try to minimize the deaths that “it’s close to killing one in 500 Americans, and we will be there before it’s done” all summer. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2556 "2021-09-16T16:17:51Z")
I just posted that 1:500 number on another site. There’s a dude there who has been minimizing Covid since spring 2020. He mocked the small number of deaths initially. When confronted with the updated numbers, he then crowed that this meant 499/500 were still living, so he was right. He then proceeded to inform us that it’s no big deal, since we were all going to die eventually. He capped it off with a news article about the death of someone in Afghanistan, saying that it was clear we did not care about this, and it was Biden’s fault. The dude is not a troll… he is very sincere in his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2557 "2021-09-17T02:47:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The dude is not a troll… he is very sincere in his posts. Some people just don’t understand numbers. 13 soldiers died in the Kabul attack? So covid is about 58000 Kabul attacks. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2558 "2021-09-17T03:14:50Z")
That assumes that one soldier killed in battle = one American dead, a calculation I don’t think everyone would agree with. It is pretty clear that for some, a military person who dies in service is worth well more than one regular person, though I don’t know that anyone is so crass as to express that mathematically. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2559 "2021-09-17T03:39:50Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > though I don’t know that anyone is so crass as to express that mathematically. Apparently the person @Euphonious_Polemic mentioned did just that. Just 1 in 500 regular people die. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2560 "2021-09-17T04:02:31Z")
It isn’t just Idaho and Alaska: > **[COVID-19 surge forces health care rationing in parts of West](https://apnews.com/article/health-public-health-coronavirus-pandemic-idaho-a0729894b42af1c3dadeccaffeabea0c)** > > BOISE, Idaho (AP) — In another ominous sign about the spread of the delta variant, Idaho public health leaders on Thursday expanded health care rationing statewide and individual hospital systems in Alaska and Montana have enacted similar crisis... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2561 "2021-09-17T04:05:29Z")
227,836,038 total cases 4,684,149 dead 204,513,177 recovered In the US: 42,634,054 total cases 688,486 dead 32,347,726 recovered YesterdayTwo days ago’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 226,660,838 total cases > 4,662,869 dead > 203,340,043 recovered > > In the US: > > 42,288,205 total cases > 682,341 dead > 32,176,784 recovered ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2562 "2021-09-17T10:31:00Z")
What the map doesn’t tell you is that people living in urban cities that have far fewer cases per 10,000 can’t find hospital beds because the unvaccinated shitkickers are crushing their local hospitals and being moved to larger urban centers. So if someone in Chicago has a heart attack or gets seriously injured in a traffic accident, it’s increasingly likely that they’re screwed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=124) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=126)